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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#39451: Sep 27th 2016 at 11:54:42 AM

On how Yang found out about her mother, I'm watching the episode right now and she says her dad told her some stuff. He might not have been the one to tell her but the implication is that he is. As for why, who knows.

AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#39452: Sep 27th 2016 at 1:22:16 PM

I really don't see how Ruby could not know especially with Qrow as her uncle (since she'd know he has no blood relation to either of her parents) unless they're all conspiring to keep it from her, which seems frankly stupid that it's some deep dark secret they think they need to protect her from.

The obvious answer is that Ruby just doesn't really care. She effortlessly rolled with Penny being a robot, you think Yang only being her half sister is something she's gonna have a breakdown about?

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#39454: Sep 27th 2016 at 2:13:52 PM

Ruby knows Qrow's not her blood uncle. Her not knowing Raven is Yang's mom is possible, but unlikely.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#39455: Sep 27th 2016 at 2:18:49 PM

And since Raven was never a part of her life nor her birth mother, she doesn't really care. Or rather, she probably cares only as much as her love for Yang would compel her to care, and Yang seems to make a point of keeping Ruby out of the loop in her quest after what happened last time.

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#39456: Sep 27th 2016 at 4:32:34 PM

On how Yang found out about her mother, I'm watching the episode right now and she says her dad told her some stuff. He might not have been the one to tell her but the implication is that he is.

Yes, but he shuts down and then suddenly opens up just enough to give Yang a small piece of information? Perhaps I'm too suspicious from the kinds of stories I'm used to reading, but it seems to me that there had to be a trigger - something that took him from 'shut down' to 'open enough for a brief conversation', and even Yang's perspective doesn't make it sound like it's a conversation Taiyang willingly engaged in, indicating something may have forced him to tell the bare minimum he could get away with sharing.

My suspicion is that this trigger was Qrow.

On the subject of Ruby. It was Yang's comment that she thinks Ruby didn't really get what was going on that raised my suspicion about what Ruby does or doesn't know. I get the impression that Ruby hasn't been told, and that Yang (at the very least) thinks Ruby's protected from the drama going on inside her own head (after all, she once almost got Ruby killed, so she might think she's protecting Ruby by not telling her anything). I would expect Ruby to be the standard hero in this instance - she knows, but she's not going to push the subject she knows the other person doesn't want to speak about. It's not about not caring, it's about empathising with someone's pain to the extent where you don't want to put undue pressure on them, so you stay quiet and silently promise yourself that you'll be there for them should the day come when they need to open up.

Further more, it instantly made me suspicious about Ruby's own pain - pain that it seems likely that Yang knows nothing about. Yang talks about Ruby not really knowing, but my guess is that Yang doesn't know as much about Ruby's feelings as she thinks - and her wobble during that conversation with Blake where she almost hesitantly says 'I think' suggests it might have briefly occurred to her during that conversation that she actually doesn't really know what Ruby knows or how Ruby feels about the events surrounding Summer's death.

edited 27th Sep '16 4:41:48 PM by Wyldchyld

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#39457: Sep 28th 2016 at 1:18:32 AM

So, after listening to Sacrifice for the first time since Volume 3 ended...

I think Cinder might be a silver-eyed warrior herself, and was used by Ozpin much like Ozpin planned on using Ruby. The whole song is basically about not being used and that the truth must come out. How there's loss with what Ozpin does but no gain.

"Lies/ Truth will rise/ Revealed by mirrored eyes" is why I think she's also got silver eyes.

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#39458: Sep 28th 2016 at 1:58:32 AM

[up] Why would she be so shocked at Ruby then? They've been in contact at least a little and Cinder should have gotten a chance to see Ruby's eyes.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39459: Sep 28th 2016 at 5:13:13 AM

That awkward moment when Ruby first met Cinder still needs some clarification. I'm not sure if that was another Monty thing that's never going to come up again or what. I was so sure that Cinder's eyes had some kind of special power, which makes the idea that she was a Silver Eyes too appealing.

But yeah, her suprise at Ruby's sudden finishing move wouldn't make sense. Unless Cinder was supposed to be a Magical Girl too but failed somehow.

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#39460: Sep 28th 2016 at 5:15:36 AM

It could be argued that she wasn't expecting it. It's not like she knew Ruby was there until the whole light show started.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#39461: Sep 28th 2016 at 5:57:55 AM

Yeah, just cause you know in the back of your head that such-and-such amazing thing can happen, doesn't mean you expect that thing to blind side you out from beneath a tower right as your doing the coup-de-grace on the presumptuous bitch who though she could take your power that murdered so hard for.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#39462: Sep 28th 2016 at 6:40:42 AM

Cinder's eyes aren't silver though. I mean, are they and I just somehow didn't notice?

edited 28th Sep '16 6:42:20 AM by LSBK

UndyingPhoenix Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#39463: Sep 28th 2016 at 7:14:45 AM

No, they're not.

But I think that Dust has something to do with Cinder's eye colour. It's eerily similar in colour to the Dust patterns weaved into her clothes.

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#39464: Sep 28th 2016 at 7:16:56 AM

They're gold. Pretty sure they glow as well.

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#39465: Sep 28th 2016 at 7:22:29 AM

As noted, the biggest flaw behind "Cinder is a Silver-Eyed Warrior" is the fact that Cinder doesn't have silver eyes. And yes, they do appear to glow like the flame-print in her clothes.

I'm still backing the "Cinder is Summer Maiden" theory, personally.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#39466: Sep 28th 2016 at 7:23:39 AM

[up][up]That's what I thought. I mean, we were told some people even merge dust into their bodies but the eyes seem like a very...weird and delicate place to do that. And we have no real reason to think it anyway.

I thought her eyes only started glowing after she took some of the Fall Maiden's power.

edited 28th Sep '16 7:24:21 AM by LSBK

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39467: Sep 28th 2016 at 7:30:26 AM

wild mass guess Maybe Cinder's Silver Eyes were turned off? We've at least two cases of characters changing eye color: Yang and Neo. Even if she's not silver-eyed, the scene where Ruby notices something off about her but then proceeds to ignore it is suspect. Though due to current revelations maybe that was just due to Cinder apparently being part-Grimm, or at least able to conjure smaller Grimm.

(Oh god if she's the "humanoid Grimm" everyone was asking for I'm going to flip.)

Or maybe Ruby noticed the glowing eyes were similar to "That Leggy Silohoutte" from Volume 1. But Ruby later fought Cinder and still didn't put two and two together.

edited 28th Sep '16 7:34:32 AM by Soble

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#39469: Sep 28th 2016 at 8:32:19 AM

Maybe her glowy golden eyes have something to do with that Grimm inside her body?

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#39470: Sep 28th 2016 at 9:28:40 AM

wild mass guess Cinder used dust-form Dust and put it into her eyes to get that look. To disguise her Silver Eyes to avoid suspicion.

edited 28th Sep '16 9:29:23 AM by UndyingPhoenix

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#39471: Sep 28th 2016 at 9:30:07 AM

wild mass guessCinder has Dust in her eyes because she's really careless when lining her clothing with it. It doesn't do anything but sting really bad, putting her in a perpetually foul mood.wild mass guess

edited 28th Sep '16 9:30:23 AM by TobiasDrake

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#39472: Sep 28th 2016 at 9:33:15 AM

That would imply she's anything but smug and self-assured. [lol]

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#39473: Sep 28th 2016 at 9:34:00 AM

wild mass guess Cinder got inflicted with a curse that only makes here eyes stop aching when she's keikaku'ing. wild mass guess

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#39474: Sep 28th 2016 at 9:40:21 AM

So, tomorrow we'll probably get Yang in her homely clothes.

I wonder if they'll continue releasing more official art of new designs. Like for example JN_R? Or villains? Would be nice.

edited 28th Sep '16 9:50:44 AM by shinigamiPeter

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#39475: Sep 28th 2016 at 9:41:05 AM

  • Cinder: And when the whole world is burning, then MY EYES WILL NO LONGER—
  • Weiss: Wait, is that what this is all about?
  • Cinder: Excuse me?
  • Weiss: Come with me.
  • Cinder: But...we're in the middle of a fight.
  • Mercury: I am literally just about to stomp on Blake's spine.
  • Blake: It's going to be amazing.
  • Weiss: It's a shadow clone.
  • Blake: WEISS!!!
  • Mercury: SPOILERS!!!
  • Weiss: Yes, yes, I am the opposite of fun. Now YOU, come with me.
  • One hour later
  • Cinder: So, um. We're cancelling the Apocalypse. There's not going to be an amazing final battle between the forces of good and evil. Have a good day, everyone!
  • Ruby: O.O What did you do?
  • Weiss: Eyewash has been a thing for as long as Schnee Dust has been in business.

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