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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#39426: Sep 26th 2016 at 4:35:28 PM

[up] The bird flight (wing movements and perspective) looks so much better than it did in previous volumes - especially Volume 1 (compare that Twitter clip to the landing strategy episode when we see a crow flying just before Ruby accidentally turns it into worm food).

Quick question: does Ruby know Yang has a different mother and is looking for her?

I actually got the impression that Ruby does not know that she and Yang have different mothers (or - more importantly (and, to my mind, more interestingly) - the family thinks Ruby doesn't know).

  • Yang is cagey about telling her what she was doing at the end of the Yellow trailer.
  • Yang tells Blake that she thinks Ruby's too young to remember much about what happened around the time of Summer's death (when she almost got herself and Ruby killed) - and it was only after Summer's death that Yang learned the truth about her mother.
  • When Qrow shows the girls the photo of Team STRQ, he casually covers Raven's face with his thumb, but as soon as he spots the look on Yang's face he hides the photo and changes the subject. Given that it's later confirmed that he knows that Yang knows who her mother is, exactly who is he trying to hide Raven's face from? It's pointless hiding it from Yang, so my guess is that he's disguising the similarity between Raven and Yang from Ruby.
  • He talks to Yang about Raven when they're alone together and only because Yang raises the subject first - and even though Yang has known for years that her mother wasn't Summer, she herself didn't know Qrow is still in contact with Raven. So, even Yang isn't massively in the loop, and we have a good hint that she doesn't discuss this stuff with Ruby because she all but admits to Blake that she doesn't really have a clue what Ruby knows about the events surrounding (and after) Summer's death.

I also think that it wasn't Taiyang who told Yang the truth about her mother. I think it was Qrow who told Yang - without Taiyang's permission. I know the creators have said that there's history between Qrow and Taiyang, bad blood of some sort that the final episode of Volume 3 shows a hint of, and I know the fandom's first assumption is that it must be because Qrow was in love with Summer. I sincerely hope that isn't the reason because it's just so damn cheesy.

I'm hoping it's because Qrow told Yang the truth about Raven being her mother, and (if Taiyang even knows the event occurred) is therefore viewed by Taiyang as the reason Yang and Ruby almost died in that forest back then. It would also explain Taiyang's warning expression when Qrow asked him to leave Ruby's room so that Qrow could talk to Ruby privately - because he'd know that Qrow has a history of revealing things to the girls that gets them nearly killed, and lo! and behold, it happens again (this time with Ruby - a few words from Qrow, and Ruby's sneaking off to Mistral; Taiyang must be having kittens, especially if he knows what Yang did all those years ago).

edited 26th Sep '16 4:48:14 PM by Wyldchyld

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#39427: Sep 26th 2016 at 4:49:35 PM

[up]Nah, Qrow and Taiyang's issue is the fact that Qrow is pissed that Taiyang didn't sleep with him [lol]

AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#39428: Sep 26th 2016 at 4:49:59 PM

I think Yang mentioned at one point then when she was in her funk after she found out about Raven back then she told Ruby, implying it was a pretty nasty conversation and involved something along the lines of her telling Ruby they weren't really total sister and Summer wasn't her mother.

Plus they have different last names, with Ruby seeming to take on her mothers of her own will. So I'm pretty sure she knows. What she probably doesn't know is that Yang is still looking for her. She probably thinks either Raven is dead, or Yang buried that part of her.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#39429: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:08:16 PM

[up][up] That's an entire separate, and far more important, issue. tongue

[up] I don't recall that kind of conversation ever being said to have happened (or implied to have happened). She did say that her father shut down after Summer's death and that's when she learned the truth (which is why I think it was Qrow who told her, not Taiyang). She says that one day she thought she had a clue about her mother and, when the house was empty, bundled Ruby into a cart and took off through the forest, only for it to be a dead end and them have to be saved by Qrow. There was nothing about Yang having any kind of conversation with Ruby about it - Yang doesn't even know whether Ruby remembers anything meaningful from back then.

I don't really see the different surnames as being unusual. In a world where individuality is so prized it's a morality tale about the evils of global war and kids get named after colour concepts just to ram that point home, I would think that the choice of what surname to take would also be individualistic. I would also think that what name to take when married would also be individual choice (whether that's retain maiden name, female takes male name or male takes female name, or both combine their names into a new one, etc.).

edited 26th Sep '16 5:12:36 PM by Wyldchyld

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#39430: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:36:24 PM

Yeah based on how Yang told the story I would think she either just put ruby in the wagon and went forth with Ruby not having a clue or Yang lied about what she and Ruby were doing probably with the idea of going on an adventure.

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#39431: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:48:57 PM

Why did she even bring Ruby in the first place?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39432: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:53:26 PM

You never brought your sibling to a scary, god-forsaken place you wanted to explore?

Yang somewhat admits the idea was stupid. She was probably stuck babysitting Ruby one day and decided not to leave her alone when she went looking.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#39433: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:59:02 PM

If Ruby was just a toddler it doesn't make much sense for Yang to be left alone to watch her. Yang shouldn't have been old enough to leave alone either.

edited 26th Sep '16 7:00:01 PM by LSBK

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39434: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:04:49 PM

Didn't Yang say something about Taiyang being a mess after Summer died or has the fanon leaked into my memory?

Another possibility is Yang just snuck away with Ruby so they could find their "real mother." Maybe it was just an act of rebellion. Yang was genuinely convinced she and Ruby needed to go off on their own find their real mom no matter the cost.

edited 26th Sep '16 7:16:29 PM by Soble

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
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#39436: Sep 26th 2016 at 9:42:33 PM

I'm guessing Yang is seven at best when that happened, or six about to turn seven. Ruby was probably four. If dad was as much a mess as Yang said, then he probably dipped out for some reason or another for a bit and told Yang to watch Ruby while he went to get groceries or something.

Yang has two missions; Go find her mom based on what she saw in the picture, and keep an eye on Ruby. With the logic of a little kid, she figured combing the two by taking Ruby along with her was as good an ideas as any.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#39437: Sep 26th 2016 at 10:38:02 PM

"He could be one of the middle kids"

Maybe, I mean he have a lot to prove which is a trait many younger kid have(I know, Im the younger of four) but he is look protective of Ruby and Phyrra

". I think it was Qrow who told Yang - without Taiyang's permission."

It could be, Qrow suffer what I call "Dr.House complex" he "speak the truth" and that give him permision to be a total asshole against.....everyone really, he provke Winter, he dosent have any trouble saying Ironwood plan is bullshit and even call Yang "Crazy", the only time he hold his tounge is with Ruby, as he paciently explain to him the legend of silver eyes warrior, he sorta hide the truth of her too.

"Qrow and Taiyang's issue is the fact that Qrow is pissed that Taiyang didn't sleep with him"

wild mass guessRaven and Qrow want to have Taiyang for themselves, but Summer came and convince him to live a life of monogamy, until this day both Qrow and Raven blame each other for itwild mass guess

Also, I not much Ruby dosent know, is more that Ruby dosent ASK, she is very naive at things and so far she just asumed is not big deal, after all Yang never show(to her) any concern about Raven, so WHY it should be one in first place?

Is hard to said consider that Ruby have show very little hidden depth so far, I mean "Red like roses II" show she feel bad for Summer but so far is off screen Ruby, where all things go to die

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#39439: Sep 27th 2016 at 6:07:03 AM

Jaune said he has seven (or was it eight?) sisters but he's also said he doesn't have any brothers. Nothing about birth order, though.

edited 27th Sep '16 6:45:21 AM by LSBK

DeanCole Since: Jun, 2015
#39440: Sep 27th 2016 at 6:43:42 AM

Kinda wonder if his sisters will have powers based of the Seven evil exes.Since the dance plotline in V2 was based on Scott pilgrim vs the world

edited 27th Sep '16 6:46:11 AM by DeanCole

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39441: Sep 27th 2016 at 7:42:56 AM

[up] (3)

I feel like Emerald's skin tone should be a couple of shades darker... but then, it's unfinished.

I've never understood why the Japanese have this thing about the "over the shoulder" pose. I don't know if it's just a Haruhi thing or what but I've seen it a lot.

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#39442: Sep 27th 2016 at 9:28:36 AM

It's an easy stock position it is...

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#39443: Sep 27th 2016 at 10:13:47 AM

[up][up]Yeah, the over-the-shoulder pose is actually a fairly easy pose to draw.

drac0blade Since: Jan, 2015
#39444: Sep 27th 2016 at 10:13:56 AM

I actually got the impression that Ruby does not know that she and Yang have different mothers (or - more importantly (and, to my mind, more interestingly) - the family thinks Ruby doesn't know).

So I'm not the only one who wondered this. That's good to know.

As for why Yang wouldn't tell Ruby — logically, it doesn't make much since, but I think it does emotionally. Yang didn't want to admit to Ruby that they were only half sisters, and so kept letting the secret slide. Like, "I was totally going to tell you, I was just waiting for the right time."

Of course, it's also possible that Ruby does know and it's a touchy subject, so Yang avoids talking about it.

Or maybe Ruby knows and couldn't care less, but where's the drama in that?

edited 27th Sep '16 10:15:00 AM by drac0blade

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#39445: Sep 27th 2016 at 10:19:14 AM

[up]I think the issue is settle: Yang is her sister, summer her mother, there is nothing more than that, also it seen Yang treat this as "her issue" not Ruby so she keep her out of loop

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39446: Sep 27th 2016 at 10:51:55 AM

[up](2/3) Never knew.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39448: Sep 27th 2016 at 11:03:09 AM

Hrh-hrm.

Volume 1 we got four visually distinct trailers and solo pieces. Like Volume 2 we got a preview of the mech fight and a trailer and WOR. Vol 3 we got concept art of Winter and Adam. Vol 4 we got a leaked trailer, Weiss art, and...

Come on Rooster Teeth make with the goods.

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#39449: Sep 27th 2016 at 11:14:15 AM

Obviously three more are gonna come over. Maybe stuff for JNR, as well.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39450: Sep 27th 2016 at 11:15:26 AM

Team JauNe's Revenge.

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