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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#39076: Sep 18th 2016 at 7:01:24 PM

I'm no statistician, but I'm pretty sure one is on the range of too small sample size.

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#39077: Sep 18th 2016 at 7:05:11 PM

What I'd like to believe is that once a person's aura breaks is that all the pain they've endured comes to them at once...

[up]Too small, still causes assumptions.

edited 18th Sep '16 7:07:00 PM by randomness4

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#39078: Sep 18th 2016 at 7:08:40 PM

How many times have we even seen a person getting their Aura depleted? The only conclusive example we've seen are Mercury and Scarlet, if I remember correctly.

As for Yang, did the writers confirm that Adam can cut through Aura, bypass Aura, or strong enough to deplete a chunk of Aura at once?

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#39079: Sep 18th 2016 at 7:17:56 PM

So, if any cares to see this or ask, let me know.

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#39080: Sep 18th 2016 at 7:25:15 PM

Oh dear. D:

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#39081: Sep 18th 2016 at 7:36:12 PM

Adam's attack stat is so high, the damage he does greatly exceeds the hit points Yang's aura represent.

I think. I feel they've been really unclear about aura depletion and damage and we don't know if aura blocks all damage while you have any left or having less aura than the damage just means it goes through without depleting more aura.

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#39082: Sep 18th 2016 at 8:17:58 PM

My guess is if you shatter the aura and there is any kinetic force left in your attack, it hits the person. I mean assuming aura is treated as a palpable thing that sits between you and your attackers, that's the way of dealing with it that makes the most sense.

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#39083: Sep 18th 2016 at 8:45:50 PM

It's definitely a palpable thing. Way back in season 1 when everyone was in the BYOLSHey!  Forest, There's a point when Ren is wrestling with the King Taijitus where we see him holding back one's open maw, and his Aura field is a pulsing barrier that's keeping it from closing its mouth around him.

edited 18th Sep '16 8:46:10 PM by TobiasDrake

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#39084: Sep 18th 2016 at 10:31:01 PM

Ren is a special case, as he specializes in Magic Kung Fu Bullshit (tm). The one time he was allowed to be competent in three seasons, anyway.

Also, our samples for aura break are Mercury, Pyrrha, and Amber. Don't recall Scarlet as well.

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#39085: Sep 19th 2016 at 7:29:30 AM

IIRC, in additional to the audible tone, isn't there also a visual effect when an Aura breaks? Like glass shattering around the character.

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#39086: Sep 19th 2016 at 7:46:29 AM

Some sort of chess motif.

Though Jaune is more of a king than queen.

Always needs the other pieces to protect it, and for the love of god keep it out of combat.

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#39087: Sep 19th 2016 at 10:27:40 AM

Does anyone here think Penny will replace Phyrra? I mean the team can be call JNRP, dosent it?

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#39088: Sep 19th 2016 at 12:22:31 PM

Maybe? It's up to Miles//Kerry to bring back the only "dead" character who can easily be brought back [lol]

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#39089: Sep 19th 2016 at 12:34:36 PM

They don't have to operate in teams of 4 anymore if they don't want to, since Beacon fell and they went out on their own.

They could for thematic purposes but they don't have to replace Pyrrha at all, nor do they need to let Ruby leave and find a new 4th member when WBY comes back. They can operate as a trio, or be a team of seven if they want or split up into any combination of the above.

Of course it would be thematically fitting, but unless Penny 2 strikes up an usual friendship with Jaune, despite not interacting with him at all prior, then I find it unlikely she'd opt to pal around with him.

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#39090: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:06:14 PM

@Tobias: Yep. More like the shimmering of sunlight reflected on water, really. Check the Merc vs Yang fight when she lands the final blow.

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#39091: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:17:00 PM

I mean I doubt any of us has the medical experience to say it's actually incredibly likely that someone would pass out immediately, just like you can say almost none of us has had enough experience losing a limb say that it wouldn't happen.

Short story: I was chatting to a medical team that was operating on me (local anaesthetic) about how people react under the knife or to injuries and amputations. Some had a medical combat background, so the team had a huge collective range of experiences. On the basis of that conversation, I have no problem with Yang's very speedy and silent loss of consciousness.

If I told the longer version, I'd explain that the staff were telling me the difference between witnessing something happening to others and witnessing what is happening to oneself is a huge chasm. As a result, even medical personnel or combat veterans are not (by choice) allowed to witness a surgeon cutting into them (you know, planned procedures you have time to psyche yourself up for) because one of the most common reactions would be a sudden and immediate crash in blood pressure causing fainting, disorientation, dizziness or nausea (or a combination), etc.

The phrase they kept using to me was "it's different when it's you".

I think the best way to beat him is with an overpowering assault. Get around that first strike and then keep him on the defensive so he never has a chance to prepare another deadly strike. Keeping his sword constantly busy and out of his sheath means he only gets one shot with his iaido.

Ironically, the best person for this kind of assault might actually be Yang, but she was so heavily blindsided by his iaido that he cut her off before a sustained battle could even begin.

Best way to get around it, is to get him before he can react. That means ambush. That means the perfect person to take out Adam is actually Blake. And it should be Blake rather than anyone else.

I don't like quoting shows when raising an issue in real life because of the difference in portrayal, but here I am using Angel which briefly raised a relevant subject. In an episode, a woman is being stalked by a man and the cop tells Angel that it won't be enough to rescue her because even if the creep is behind bars, he'll still be winning. As long as he's ruined the woman that used to exist, he will always exert power over her and she will never, ever be free of him. She's the one who has to take control back from him.

I've heard domestic abuse charities saying the same things about abuse victims (albeit without the nice, pat 'kill the supernatural creep because it's a show and not real life' solution because real life isn't so easy and doesn't get resolved in 40 minutes). It happens with bullying, too.

Not only would Blake have the perfect ability to nullify Adam's iaido-style attacks, but she actually needs to be the person who defeats him, and on two fronts - mentally being by far the most important battle to win. That's the most dangerous thing we see in the Adam/Blake confrontation. The physical aspect isn't the important bit. It's the mental power he holds over her that matters. That's the fight Blake needs to win if she wants to be truly free of him.

As far as I'm concerned, she has to be the person who defeats Adam in the long run. Anyone could physically rescue, but the only person who can destroy his psychological prison is Blake.

edited 19th Sep '16 2:21:29 PM by Wyldchyld

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#39092: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:34:13 PM

Like I said before, Yang and Adam have some parallel: both care of Blake in theor own ways, both are agresive and both have a counter-atack

So if you see Yang track record, she have fail against two oponente who manage to out-run her: Neon and Neo(she have a thing with the latter N, dosent it?) in both case they dodge her atempt to atack, giving a hard time, I will said so far the only one who have a good time is Sun and Blake since they are agile fighter who have ilusion based powers

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#39093: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:36:15 PM

Maybe it was the pain and shock of...y'know, getting her arm sliced off?

Amputations don't hurt.

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#39094: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:52:16 PM

Some sort of chess motif.

Though Jaune is more of a king than queen.

That's fine. They designate him the King in that motif. Ruby's the Queen. Team RWBY and JNPR makes up a complete chess side, minus the Pawns.

And on that note, recovering Weiss needs to be prioritized because Team RNJR is missing one of everything they got two of at the outset, but both Bishops are gone.

Regarding Adam

After all the points people have made here, I'm going to change my vote and say yeah, Blake's style probably would be good against him after all. It's her Semblance that really sold me on it. Her afterimage-dodge would allow her to avoid his iaido completely.

I'm still not sure if hit-and-run would be a good approach to him, but the one advantage Blake has over anyone else is that she actually has a solution to get past that deadly opening strike. If she can take advantage of the decoy to steal his scabbard, all the better.

The drawback is that as much as she knows his style, he knows hers too. So he might not take the bait.

edited 19th Sep '16 2:53:40 PM by TobiasDrake

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#39095: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:55:37 PM

Clearly the way to defeat Adam is for someone to just level grinding until they're about on level with him. This is like RPGs where the Final Boss fights the hero near the beginning of the game.

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#39096: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:57:10 PM

Problem: Generally when you beat an unbeatable boss the game crashes

what if Remnant crashes when someone beats Adam

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#39097: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:58:54 PM

[up][up] Problem with that logic is that it assumes he's not getting XP from his fights too.

Video game bosses tend to be static. You can't beat the guy, you can go spend the time to gain 10 levels, come back, and he'll be on exactly the same level he was before.

edited 19th Sep '16 2:59:52 PM by TobiasDrake

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#39098: Sep 19th 2016 at 3:00:13 PM

Someone clearly needs to go finish off that wyvern Grimm that's frozen on the tower. That beastie's gotta be worth at least ten levels at this stage.

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#39099: Sep 19th 2016 at 3:32:58 PM

I feel like if Blake is the one to take Adam though it would prove her right that she needs to push people away and only rely on herself which seems counter to the lesson they're trying to teach her.

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#39100: Sep 19th 2016 at 3:39:02 PM

I feel like if Blake is the one to take Adam though it would prove her right that she needs to push people away and only rely on herself which seems counter to the lesson they're trying to teach her.

I disagree. Blake's problem is that she's a runner. As long as she keeps running, Adam can never catch up to her. He only caught her this time because she stopped running and found a place to belong, and now she's running again in the hopes that he won't hurt anyone else.

Confronting Adam means no longer running. It means making a stand and saying, "This is where I belong, this is where I want to be, and I'm done letting you take that from me."

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