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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#38926: Sep 16th 2016 at 12:12:56 PM

Tobias: We've talked before about how the anti-Faunus prejudice is kinda an Informed Attribute about the society and we rarely actually get to see legitimate racism from anyone but outright villains. Like, they've never walked into a store and been told that Blake has to leave because "We don't serve their kind" or something. Blake, Sun, and Velvet mostly get by like anyone else.

When we had a similar discussion a few months back, this was my take on it:

And yet Sun doesn't seem to have a problem, and he highlights the fact that he's a faunus plenty of times.

I wonder if maybe it's a socio-economic thing. All our characters are essentially students at an elite live-in college, and are further put into specific groups with their peers, which puts them in the same social circles by default. But prior to that we have what appear to be middle class Ruby and Yang, obviously upper class Weiss, and all indications point to Blake being poor.

Blake, Sun, and Velvet are all faunus, but they are also Huntsmen among Huntsmen, and that social position brings them more acceptance among any peers who might have had certain prejudices. Case in point, Weiss overcame her disdain for faunus because she was knew Blake as Blake, her fellow Huntress and teammate as opposed to Blake, some faunus she passed on the street. This might indicate there is some lingering prejudice among the social circles our characters run in, but they see our faunus main characters as "some of the good ones." It's like some Ivy League kids might dismiss most Black people as inner city punks, but will at the same time say Carlton from the Fresh Prince is the person they love and most identify with.That's just speculation on my part though.

If though, faunus are predominately poor, then that feeds into a lot of negative stereotypes. And going by what we know of the Schnee Corp. they do employ and exploit a predominately low class faunus workforce. We haven't seen these people or their conditions so again, this is speculation based on what Blake has related to us, but if this is the case then it's easy to see why these people would be so eager to join the White Fang while our student faunus write them off. It's the difference between those stuck at the bottom of the social rung and are acting out against their inability to rise up, while others who have made it to the top of the ladder enjoy the privileges of being treated like regular people most of the time.

edited 16th Sep '16 12:13:10 PM by Parable

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#38927: Sep 16th 2016 at 12:16:12 PM

You know, I sort of find Grimm funny due of easily manipulated they can really be. Like, there are three times when Grimm seemed to actually attacked someone without the heroes either being stumbling to them or them seeming that predatory. First in Forever Fall due of Cardin's and Jaune's argument (and even then, the Ursa tried to pursue Cardin seemingly because he had that red tar on him), Breach where they were being lured to Vale, and Season 3 finale which was pretty much planned to happen.

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#38928: Sep 16th 2016 at 12:36:53 PM

Didnt Tusk try to move to vacou? I think that would be a better place and Sun since to be waaaaay more relax than other.

About Weiss.I feel they cut her racism or prejudice because is a dificult trait to grow up it, just like "Adam the abuser", once you show racism is kinda hard get back of it, in fact almost all alpha bitch thread just....vanish between season, now she is just bossy

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#38929: Sep 16th 2016 at 12:50:58 PM

Sorry to change the topic:

But remember the Pokemon talk? This Darkrai Personification looks an awful lot like a certain heiress we all know and love [lol]

edited 16th Sep '16 6:55:49 PM by BlackSunNocturne

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#38930: Sep 16th 2016 at 1:35:16 PM

Whenever the subject of anti-faunus discrimination comes up, I can't help but compare it to the situation in Fire Emblem Tellius, which also features conflict between normal humans, or beorc, and the beast-people, or laguz.

I would never claim that Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn are perfect—far from it—but they certainly do a better job at putting the human/laguz conflict front and centre. The laguz are stereotyped as animals by the peoples of Crimea, Daein, and Begnion. One town erupts into a riot at the presence of a laguz, and there's a fair number of anti-laguz weapons that you can buy. Begnion, the largest nation in the setting has a history of using the laguz as slaves, justifying it by dubbing them beasts of burden, and within the recent past, committed genocide against the heron tribe after blaming them for the assassination of an empress. The slave trade is still going on underground, and many beorc characters within Ike's party are deeply prejudiced against the laguz in one form or another (Ike himself uses casually racist terms like "subhuman" to describe the laguz when he doesn't know any better). The laguz for their part mock the beorc as weak, short-lived, and reliant on weapons to accomplish anything, and all the laguz that you can recruit or ally with distrust and disdain the beorc to one degree or another when they first join up. That's not even getting into the treatment of the Branded, beorc/laguz hybrids who are seen as abominations and hated by everybody—every Branded we meet has some horrid backstory. It eventually blows up into a beorc/laguz war that makes everyone have to pick a side one way or another.

There's essentially none of that in RWBY. Now sure, it's not as central to the plot, but there's not even any of it floating around in the background—at least not so far.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38931: Sep 16th 2016 at 1:38:58 PM

Well, Blake's going to be off doing stuff by herself so maybe it'll be more prominent, especially with the White Fang being so involved. That could easily stir up any latent racism or create a new wave of it.

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#38932: Sep 16th 2016 at 4:13:49 PM

Musing on it further, in addition to the hilarious casual racism, Red Like Roses is also a Bumblebee Shipper on Deck. tongue

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#38933: Sep 16th 2016 at 4:20:12 PM

Yang burned that gold into her gauntlets...that just makes them cooler.

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#38934: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:09:12 PM

[up]Are yoy saying Adam is going to sold her gauntlet for gold they are made? that bastard

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WillDeRegio Since: Jan, 2015
#38935: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:16:51 PM

[up]That's of course assuming Adam doesn't show up in the future wearing it to rub it in Blake's face.

Or he didn't give it to Mercury for his trophy case or something.

Wait, why would he give it to a human? Adam would definitely keep that half of Ember Cilica as "loot aquired from human scum".

edited 16th Sep '16 5:19:33 PM by WillDeRegio

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#38936: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:21:34 PM

[up]I dot remenber a fan art with Cinder wearing phyrra head piece, total dick move

hey, anyone can remenber how to put imagie here? I want to share some RWBY I found

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#38937: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:24:41 PM

@Tobias: I think that line helped kickstart the runaway train that is Bumblebee currently, actually.

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#38938: Sep 16th 2016 at 6:38:53 PM

I thought that they were only using that for wordplay honestly.

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#38939: Sep 16th 2016 at 6:51:37 PM

So my parents are watching Volume 2 and I'm listening to it and I realize something:

During their little mission, Oobleck questions Weiss, Blake, and Yang as to why they want to be Huntresses but doesn't bother with Ruby. The obvious reason as to why he doesn't ask Ruby as well is because Ruby knows exactly why she wants to be a Huntress and isn't hiding anything from herself or others. She's the only one who's fully resolved to become a Huntress and that's one of the reasons she was made the leader.

Come the end of Volume 3 and Ruby is the only one who's still following the Hunter's path. Looks like the others didn't find their resolve in time.

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#38940: Sep 16th 2016 at 7:02:05 PM

[up]Technically Blake still could be. Weiss got basically shanghai'd by her father and Yang was crippled, so of course they're out of commission.

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#38941: Sep 16th 2016 at 7:05:43 PM

She still could be...but she'll probably have to be inspired like the rest.

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#38942: Sep 16th 2016 at 7:43:41 PM

[up]Adam make clear he will hunt(haha) Blake friend and anyone close to her if she try smething funny and consider how Yange end up, you can see why she run

which will make me ask, will the villina change their outfits?

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#38943: Sep 16th 2016 at 8:41:00 PM

I don't know about anyone else, but I sure hope that Adam doesn't.

Where aesthetics are concerned, I think he's just perfect.

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#38944: Sep 16th 2016 at 8:50:58 PM

He's rockin' that getup...it helps people understand his cause.

I'd certainly hope everyone else gets new duds, no accepting static fashion.

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#38945: Sep 16th 2016 at 8:52:14 PM

I personally prefer Season 2 Episode 4's Team RWBY alternate outfit.

Seriously, they absolutely rocked those. I hope that they return.

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#38946: Sep 16th 2016 at 8:58:06 PM

The only one that actually lost her resolve was Yang. Blake just went off on her own mission and Weiss was forced away, otherwise she'd be with Ruby.

And sure enough, Yang had the weakest reasoning of the 4.

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#38947: Sep 16th 2016 at 9:02:48 PM

Oi, thrill seeking is a legit reason...

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#38948: Sep 16th 2016 at 9:04:26 PM

[up]No really, Adam just valided her worldview that yes,she must run away because her friend are in danger, he pretty much kick her out into phase one

In the end all threed fail: Yang was to reckless, Weiss to shy and Blake to coward.

Only Ruby have nothing to lose

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38949: Sep 16th 2016 at 9:19:41 PM

How was Weiss too shy? And we really don't know what Blake is doing so calling her a coward is very premature. Do you honestly think she's not doing anything about what's going on?

Edit: And because I'm a dick like that, you using the wrong "too" and calling Blake "to coward" is driving me crazy.

edited 16th Sep '16 9:20:27 PM by LSBK

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#38950: Sep 16th 2016 at 9:25:11 PM

I'd like to think that Blake went off to be a vigilante...

...but I doubt that she has the fighting skills for that. evil grin

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