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Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#38001: Aug 31st 2016 at 6:06:46 AM

[up][up] I assume people think this because Ruby looks nothing like her dad. Than again most of Taiyangs traits are recessive.

edited 31st Aug '16 6:07:32 AM by Kiefen

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#38002: Aug 31st 2016 at 8:58:55 AM

Personally I loathe Qrow and want him out of the story. I really dislike this idea of the alcoholic ruin of a man playing the cool uncle role. I have an alcoholic uncle. He's not a bad guy, but there's nothing cool about him.

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#38003: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:05:14 AM

Where did the "ruin of a man" part come from?

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#38004: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:10:09 AM

He does appear to be a high-functioning alcoholic, but I can see where you're coming from.

I can imagine the current proceedings could cause him to sober up, assuming he doesn't get offed too soon.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#38005: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:15:01 AM

[up][up]He is drunk in literally every scene we see him in, at almost all times. There are people dead of liver disease who don't drink that much.

[up]It's particularly annoying that the show structures him as the "free spirited" counterpart to Ironwood's militarism. Because nothing says makes me trust a man's views like the fact that he's committing slow motion suicide.

The functional alcoholism thing is also part of the problem—functional alcoholics are not, generally speaking, drunk on the job. Yet the show asks me to accept that Qrow's just so good he can get away with monster hunting while wasted.

edited 31st Aug '16 9:17:59 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar

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#38006: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:18:41 AM

[up] Drunken Master is a trope for a reason.

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#38007: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:19:21 AM

I mean, we haven't seen that much of his job, but from what we have seen he's pretty damn good at it, and the reason Cinder only had half the Maiden's power in the first place.

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#38008: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:26:25 AM

[up][up][up]Unless I'm remember it wrong, that's an exaggeration. Outside of his initial appearance and fight with Winter Qrow hasn't been drunk. Also, Qrow just pointed why Ironwood's plan was flaw which he likewise did with RWBY's vigilantism. Note he pretty much give Ruby and Yang the same advice Winter gave Weiss.

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#38009: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:34:41 AM

[up][up]Yes. He's very good at his job. That's my complaint.

Drunken Master is a trope for a reason.

And it's a pretty stupid trope.

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#38010: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:50:50 AM

Your complaint is that a high-functioning alcoholic is competent?

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#38011: Aug 31st 2016 at 9:50:54 AM

The functional alcoholism thing is also part of the problem—functional alcoholics are not, generally speaking, drunk on the job. Yet the show asks me to accept that Qrow's just so good he can get away with monster hunting while wasted.

Tbf we're not exactly dealing with normal humans when it comes to RWBY. Maybe Aura makes helps with the drunkness.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#38012: Aug 31st 2016 at 10:21:10 AM

[up][up]My complaint is that they portray him as a functioning alcoholic when he's not a functional alcohol. "Functional alcoholic" doesn't mean "is competent while drunk" it means "is not drunk when it will interfere with the rest of their life". Qrow is described as always being drunk and his behaviour backs that up. Yet somehow this hasn't gotten him killed, or interfered with his duties as a Huntsman.

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#38013: Aug 31st 2016 at 10:34:44 AM

He was pretty sober during the invasion. Or pep talking his nieces. Or most anything outside fucking with Winter and Ironwood.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#38014: Aug 31st 2016 at 10:42:45 AM

Complaining about real life stuff in a show? I swear, we've already had this discussion.

Also: Ruby doesn't look like Taiyang because she looks like Summer, not because Summer cheated on her husband with his best friend.

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#38016: Aug 31st 2016 at 10:54:54 AM

There are varying levels of drunkeness, too. You can be slightly tipsy, or you can be so hammered you can't move without flopping down on the floor.

Qrow's obviously leaning towards the former, though considering Mercury was able to "smell" the liquor on him from quite a ways...

Well, I guess it's just a suspension of disbelief in action. Maybe Aura does help with keeping yourself sober. We haven't really seen anyone else drunk/tipsy to compare yet.

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#38017: Aug 31st 2016 at 11:04:25 AM

Drunk people, they're hilarious...until they aren't.

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#38018: Aug 31st 2016 at 11:33:06 AM

Beneath the scythe and badass attitude Qrow is kind of a miserable wreck of a person. The constant drinking is implied to be coping as a result of losing lots of friends, especially Summer, and just the stress of living a double life as an instructor but also working of Ozpin's secret group who keeps fighting against the horrors too horrible for most of the world to know about. His only remaining teammate, Taiyang is implied to mostly have fallen out with him.

He kind of shows what a negative impact being a hunter can have on your life, and also represents a potiental bad way RWBY could end up. An ace, but jaded, alone and with their partners either dead, run off or just disliking them now.

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#38019: Aug 31st 2016 at 11:36:08 AM

Thas terrible, mang.

That man needs an epic..."sex on the beach".

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#38020: Aug 31st 2016 at 11:42:51 AM

I like Qrow, but I can see where the criticism's coming from. Still, the only fight he's explicitly been drunk for was when he was messing with Winter, and I can buy that he's just so much better than her that he can match her even when he's shitfaced.

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#38021: Aug 31st 2016 at 11:48:41 AM

Yeah, Qrow, is a flaw version of Ruby, just like Winter is for Weiss and in a weird way, Adam is for Yang(or Maybe taiyang but we dont really know)

With Adam...he is more a drunkest badass and that it, is drunkness is not a problem...until it is

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#38022: Aug 31st 2016 at 12:07:35 PM

Qrow and Winter are Ruby's and Weiss's role models, respectively, while also being a flawed reflection of who they could grow up to be.

Yang kinda just does her own thing.

Blake is haunted by Adam, the the anthropomorphic personification of all the Makorra shippers' rage spilling out into the internet. He's determined to make Yang Die for Our Ship, whether Blake wants him to or not.

edited 31st Aug '16 12:09:10 PM by TobiasDrake

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#38023: Aug 31st 2016 at 12:10:50 PM

Oh, she wants it alright, she just doesn't know it yet.

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#38024: Aug 31st 2016 at 12:59:53 PM

[up][up]Yeah, Qrow is Ruby if their social issues overcome her, also he is as Ozpin warrior instead of following their own path

Winter is Weiss, she love her family and have soft heart deep down but is harsh, abrasive and loyal to a fault.

With Yang, one could said her flaw form would be Raven, but we know little about her, just that Qrow have a bad yuju around her and she is contest for the unalaq prize of parent of the year.

About Blake and Adam....I match Adam ore with Yang: both are agresive, prefer Violence to get what they want are bullhead and stuborn and their atack is taking damage and returing, hell Yang get red eyes and atack like a bull, charing all the way.

And more important, both care about Blake in their own ways.

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#38025: Aug 31st 2016 at 1:16:16 PM

About Ozpin not asking other students to defend the vault. He's the one who didn't want kids fighting any war at all. He only decided to attract Pyrrha's attention when the dragon showed up. When I first watched the Ozpin/Cinder fight, I thought Ozpin was telling Pyrrha to get help against Cinder. Then I changed my mind. Conveying the message did two things - it got the kids away from his fight and it would get someone to the tower to protect it against the dragon. I think his message was about protecting the tower from other threats (e.g., dragon), not about dealing with Cinder.

I think Ozpin's mistake isn't about not having enough people down there to protect Amber. It's the entire method of getting into the vault that's the issue (and why she's even there). I think this will probably be revisited as it was Amber being in that vault that seemed to confirm to Cinder what she'd been told about Ozpin. Something about Amber being in the vault was 'proof' of Ozpin's arrogance. There's more to the vault set-up/purpose than we currently know.

I also think there's more to Beacon Tower than we currently know. Like many, I've always believed Ozpin had time powers. I've always believed his office being in the heart of a clock is more than symbolic, there's a purpose to that room. It has a living heartbeat, we hear the clock tick speeding up during tense moments and slowing back down when the tension eases. I've always wondered if Ozpin's cane is some kind of 'time key' that's connected to the office in some way; we have not seen what that cane can do - Ozpin didn't touch the lever once during his fight with Cinder so their fight did not reveal his cane's purpose. Also, down in the vault, where the clock face shouldn't be able to reach to cast a shadow, when Cinder and Ozpin confront each other just before the fight begins, Ozpin's shadow is faint and visible - it's not a normal human shadow, it looks like a clock face.

My point? I think Ozpin's vault mistake is bigger than we know because there's something about his use of that vault, that office and the entire tower that we don't know.

edited 31st Aug '16 1:21:37 PM by Wyldchyld

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