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#37901: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:15:17 PM

[up][up][up]Again, you expect any of the other main characters to have done anything different?

[up][up]That too. She should have never made it that far in the first place.

edited 30th Aug '16 1:15:43 PM by EpicBleye

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#37902: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:16:40 PM

Yes. When people are being killed by deadly assailants in the city as we speak, I expect anyone to appreciate the importance of keeping an eye out for danger.

And it's really not hard to understand how someone might have arrived in a room with elevator access after other people have used the elevator to get to that room. That's, like, the easiest thing to explain ever. She came from the elevator. Mystery solved.

She watched Ozpin, Pyrrha, and Jaune take the elevator down to the Vault. She followed the elevator down. She entered the hall through the elevator. Then she shot Amber. This is not a mystery.

edited 30th Aug '16 1:18:38 PM by TobiasDrake

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#37903: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:19:00 PM

Except they wouldn't have. Yang wouldn't, Ruby wouldn't, Weiss wouldn't, heck even Pyrrha wouldn't. Because they would want to make sure that their friends are okay after hearing a bloodcurdling scream- this is demonstrated several times throughout the series. Like, honestly it would be worse for them to not be worried when a loved one screams like bloody hell.

edited 30th Aug '16 1:20:00 PM by EpicBleye

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#37904: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:19:32 PM

[up][up]I also expect people to turn when they here their good friend scream in pain, especially when they are not soldier or at all expected to be soldiers, or cadet-soldiers.

edited 30th Aug '16 1:19:59 PM by God_of_Awesome

AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#37905: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:20:03 PM

They aren't soldiers. They're never supposed to be. They're trained to be lone monster killers. That's something Cinder deliberately took advantage of and then critized with how loose cannon the Beacon students are instead of being dignified and professional.

Atlas treats their hunters like a military (and actually encourages them to join the military) and they get hell for it because the population of Remnant are scared of armies thanks to the Color War.

But look at Qrow. He's basically one of the best hunter's Beacon turned out, and while he knows he's doing he's also a rude insubordinate drunk.

So yeah. Jaune needs to step up, but expecting him to act like a soldier in a well oiled machine is just not going to happen. Nobody in that situation would have done anything different except maybe just outright rushed Cinder instead.

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#37906: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:20:40 PM

Well let's break it down like this.

Episode 10 ends with Cinder observing Ozpin from afar before Pyrrha and Jaune enter with him to the school. She knows that the Maiden is in there and she is going to follow them.

The thing is, she was like a few buildings away. Are you telling me that she was able to come all the way to the school, find the elevator that takes you to the vault (Which was already been used) and have enough time to kill amber before the transfer ends?

And we are blaming Jaune for overlooking for one second? Either she teleported or i'm calling it a plot hole

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#37907: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:20:42 PM

Sure. I could forgive a flinch and maybe a quick glance. But that's not what Jaune did. He turned his back entirely and then kept it turned.

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#37908: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:21:16 PM

Keep your eyes on danger. One of them being some weird machine you have no idea what is there for, with a girl with a cracked face on one pod, who is also causing serious pain to your best friend.

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#37909: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:22:03 PM

Which both your best friend and your mentor clearly trust and are using. People who you respect and admire and should believe they know what they're doing.

Does Jaune think that Pyrrha is a gullible idiot and Ozpin is an evil manipulative betrayer or something?

edited 30th Aug '16 1:22:42 PM by TobiasDrake

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#37910: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:22:17 PM

Stop feeding the troll guys. At least, I think it's a troll. I hope it's a troll.

edited 30th Aug '16 1:23:02 PM by BlackSunNocturne

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#37911: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:23:02 PM

I'm pretty sure that if someone i admire started to do some shady shit i would also have my doubts or freak out.

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#37913: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:25:05 PM

Having doubts is fine. Having questions and wanting answers is fine. Taking your eyes off the only point of entry at a time when you are under siege by enemies trying to kill you and everyone you love is not fine.

What this boils down to is that Jaune dropped the ball and got Pyrrha and possibly Ozpin killed. He screwed up really bad.

edited 30th Aug '16 1:26:03 PM by TobiasDrake

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#37914: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:26:02 PM

@Black: Assuming Troll-ishness is a bit much. Tobi is certainly not the first person on here I've met with a strong opinion on something that drags through pages.

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#37915: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:28:59 PM

Yeah, there are a lot of arguments i can give as to why i don't blame Jaune for everything but i really don't want to waste my time. You seem to be very entitled to your opinion and that's fine.

edited 30th Aug '16 1:29:19 PM by fasoman1996

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#37916: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:32:11 PM

The main point I'd want to drive is that these kids are NOT even cadet-soldiers, they're warriors-in-training.

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#37917: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:32:34 PM

This ended up being really repetitive.

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#37918: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:34:11 PM

very much so

then again not much else other than repetition happens on the rwby thread so

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#37919: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:34:34 PM

Accusing Jaune of Ozpin's death is really just rubbing it in. Please don't rub it in.

I'm willing to concede that he fucked up. I'm not willing to concede that you expect him to act like a soldier, when he's clearly not. No Huntsmen are (apart from Atlesian ones).

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#37920: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:35:48 PM

I already mentioned that but yeah. They aren't soldiers. Soldiers make people think color Nazi's. The very idea that Ironwood expected Qrow to conduct himself like a soldier offended him.

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#37921: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:36:44 PM

@randomness: That's the main reason why I said my comment earlier. We're going in more circles than a NASCAR rally

edited 30th Aug '16 1:37:04 PM by BlackSunNocturne

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#37922: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:38:18 PM

"That she had time to enter the hallway, walk like halfway down it, nock an arrow, line up her shot, then fire without anyone noticing she was there is precisely why I'm condemning Jaune so hard. He didn't just happen to glance back for a moment, he abandoned his post and ran over to the machine, frantically trying to figure out what's happening. "

Cinder probably enter, Run(she can as it show she is fast) and fire a arrow, unless Ozpin being so far to catch arrow mid air, Cinder just need to keep shooting until is over, in fact have Jaune being guard all it need to happen is to Cinder blow him apart with a fireball and them shoot, BAM the sense result

And not, given Yang nature he would try to face Cinder face to face, she try that with Adam and he show why you didnt face with the edge lord

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#37923: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:42:07 PM

[up] I think you're sorely underselling Ozpin's combat skills if you think Cinder would be able to land a shot on Amber with an alert and ready Ozpin actively trying to keep her from doing so.

With Amber's power-up, she was shown to be about even with Ozpin. Without that, Ozpin would mop the floor with her.

Jaune wouldn't really need to do much. Maybe use his shield to block an arrow here or there, but for the most part, his job would be done when he shouted the alert.

edited 30th Aug '16 1:44:15 PM by TobiasDrake

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#37924: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:44:01 PM

I think she hung back and waited for her opening, yeah, and emotionally compromised Jaune gave it to her.

Ozpin's plan to use his him as a lookout had worst holes in it than Amber did just a second later.

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#37925: Aug 30th 2016 at 1:44:17 PM

It doesn't seem to take much to annoyed Qrow.

To add my unwanted opinion, while I don't agree with Tobias on the cadets bit there are times where they need to follow orders and Jaune didn't.


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