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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#37226: Jul 24th 2016 at 10:11:13 PM

Monty used to personally animate everything. Now he can't.

There's really nothing they can do about that. That might be why they've started to focus on powers and cheap shots over Monty's dance like physical blow for blow fights. They just can't do it without him.

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#37227: Jul 24th 2016 at 10:15:28 PM

[up]Yeah, that is going to afect how people see the show, after all the story is not that good and for many people just see the show for the fights....well...damn

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#37228: Jul 25th 2016 at 4:10:36 AM

I disagree with that. I think volume 3's has fights which show they can animate fights of the same quality.

I think the shift is more because special powers in the fights are something that can be tied into the story, whereas Monty just wanted things to look cool and put that ahead of the story.

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#37229: Jul 25th 2016 at 4:23:09 AM

People only seemed to have problems with the fight scenes near the start, for some reasons...

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#37230: Jul 25th 2016 at 5:00:49 AM

They felt perhaps a little still or weirdly animated, but animating 4v4 isn't likely as simple as making a 1v1.

Granted, we already had scenes with like a dozen of Grimm at once, but I guess it's not quite the same thing.

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#37231: Jul 25th 2016 at 5:17:33 AM

So are we actually going to get the Volume 4 trailer at some point?

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#37232: Jul 25th 2016 at 5:29:14 AM

Randomness Contribution:

[up]Did you mean officially?

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#37233: Jul 25th 2016 at 5:41:32 AM

What is this new shapeshifting thingamajigger...? .-.

Also, Rillagrimm looks pretty tough, especially compared to earlier iterations of Grimm.

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#37234: Jul 25th 2016 at 5:54:10 AM

Was the Grimm legitimately threatening? We sure this is the same show.

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#37235: Jul 25th 2016 at 6:32:18 AM

Don't worry, it was a Boss Battle. It can be somewhat threatening.

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#37237: Jul 25th 2016 at 7:02:05 AM

I mean, it put up a fight and actually hit Ruby more than a couple of times.

We still have to have someone fight a Goliath, too. Plus, given that the general Grimm in that village seemed both bigger and smarter - like the one throwing bricks - I expect that Deathstalkers and the like might become more threatening again.

edited 25th Jul '16 7:03:15 AM by FergardStratoavis

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#37238: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:01:17 AM

I was legitimately surprised at that, looks like the Grimms might go up a few levels. Also like the battleworn look on Ruby. Ant idea when the official trailer comes out?

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#37239: Jul 25th 2016 at 9:48:41 AM

Was the trailer animated using maya? It looks really smooth and a little more detailed. I read that they'd switched to using maya for the series proper, but I don't know about the trailer. It looks great and I'm really excited.

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#37240: Jul 25th 2016 at 1:06:43 PM

Monty always favored Rule of Cool over story. This was fine as the initial draw of the series, but as the plot got more important and RWBY became less of a Dancing Bear, it became a detriment.

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#37241: Jul 25th 2016 at 6:41:07 PM

Now I'm not sure if this is better in the RWBY Fanfiction thread, but I've been wondering:

Are Semblances wholly unique, or can people have similar ones?

I'm thinking the latter, as both Neo and Emerald have Illusion Semblances, but not exactly the same thing.

Reason why I'm asking is I was thinking of making a character with Super-Speed, but in a more traditional than what Ruby's shown. IE: The Flash and Quicksilver style of Super-Speed.

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#37242: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:06:05 PM

AFAIK, her semblance only seems to allow her to move in short, but powerful, bursts. While there doesn't appear to have a specified limit as to how many times she can do it, but it's not like she runs so fast that in her eyes the world moves slower than her.

In fact, with the bit of that Justice League film teaser, it's obvious that Required Secondary Powers are in play. Just being fast won't do much good if you cant react as equally fast. It really shows when you have Quicksilver and Flash have that sort of thing, whereas Ruby does not.

If you're speaking OC-wise, then you should probably go to the fanfiction thread for that.

EDIT: As for the other semblances, the Schnee family seem to have theirs as hereditary. It's not always the case, but it makes them easily distinguishable. Emerald's more about the mind games than actual illusions, but she has to have her eyes on the target in order for it to work. Neo can disguise herself and create mirror images.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:11:20 PM by VoidsEmpathy

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#37243: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:07:40 PM

[up][up]Unless semblances get ultra-specific and we have to assume that it just so happens that our protags happened to get some of the most basic ones when their ancestors didn't.. yeah, i think it's safe to assume that people can have the same semblance.

Plus the fact that we know Semblances can be inherited- even if it's the exception and not the rule.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:08:08 PM by EpicBleye

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#37244: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:07:56 PM

Not in-universe - nice as it would be to think everyone is an individual snowflake, college professors do get bored reading the same types of papers after awhile. I think that applies here, not everybody on Remnant has some unique Semblance all their own. But I would say, out of universe, they're supposed to be.

There is some similarity in the Schnees obviously, but we don't care about any of them except for Weiss, Winter, and Papa Schnee. For the story's purposes, Weiss's Semblance says something unique about her, and so does her inability to master it the way Winter apparently has.

For your problem with writing an OC, I think that's the right way to approach it, just make it visually or functionally different. I've ranted about what I think each Semblance means for each character in regards to how they're characterized and how they've developed - Monty might have just wanted to make them all have cool powers, but subconsciously I think he made an effort about making sure not only that they were distinct, but they said something about the character, and he succeeded there. You can have a character who has a power like Ruby's, but you're saying something about that character through whatever Semblance you assign them.

So if you're looking for reinforcing evidence that they are wholly unique, I'd say the answer is yes and no. If you're really worried about making it different, look at the way Ruby's is illustrated. She turns into a giant, rippling fireball, or she disappears in a dust of rose petals - for no immediately apparent reason, but it symbolizes her. That's her teleport. Neo's is a pink flash of light. Raven uses her sword. Cinder yells "Flame on!"

So maybe your OC should leave daffodils, or maybe scorch marks, or maybe an afterimage instead. Or, Quicksilver, as you suggested. Or do the Naruto thing and leave a log with a smiley face on it.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:10:16 PM by Soble

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#37245: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:19:35 PM

[up][up][up]To be honest, if a character with Super-Speed doesn't have the Required Secondary Powers (Super-Reflexes and the other stuff) I question the creator's intent. And I didn't ask in the fanfiction thread because it wasn't solely about an OC, but a general thing. Cause I was curious about if every single Semblance (barring the Schnee Family's) is entirely unique.

But you've got a fair point of Ruby's being more "burst of speed" instead of actual Super-Speed.

[up]Visually that'd be hard to translate as when I say Super-Speed I mean "people mistake it for teleporting". Though from his POV it's all of the Bullet Time shenanigans (think Quicksilver's POV scenes in the new X-Men movies). And I was saying Quicksilver as in the character, not the metal.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#37246: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:22:53 PM

I meant Quicksilver the character.

I also mean, if you were describing Ruby's teleport, you'd mention mysterious rose petals. This guy would just be there one moment then blink out of existence, like Quicksilver. If it were The Flash, there'd be electricity. Scorpion would disappear into fire.

I mean it'll be hard sure, but that's the joy of hobby writing.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#37247: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:27:26 PM

Ahhh, okay. Yeah, describing his Semblance in action will be hard to figure out at first. note 

edited 25th Jul '16 8:29:06 PM by BlackSunNocturne

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#37248: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:49:25 PM

I mean, to be fair, the tiger beetle is a thing that exists, and the thing moves so fast proportional to its size that it goes blind every time it runs forward.

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#37250: Jul 25th 2016 at 9:25:21 PM

Yes.

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