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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36301: Jul 3rd 2016 at 9:37:07 PM

I still want to see the special attacks in that game.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#36302: Jul 3rd 2016 at 9:47:31 PM

Actually, didn't Miles/Kerry say Adam was always intended to have been abusive towards Blake and not suddenly have him be revealed to be an asshole?

Remember that BS with that guy leaving RWBY and saying it was because they were straying from Monty's vision and stuff?

...any sources for either of these?

I'm pretty sure I've never heard any of them say Adam was supposed to be abusive. Unless this was in a livestream.

I remember someone posting here about that Shane guy, Monty's protege leaving, but nothing about "straying from Monty's vision." I remember it seeming very abrupt, the guy didn't provide any actual reason.

edited 3rd Jul '16 9:53:28 PM by Soble

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#36303: Jul 3rd 2016 at 9:49:05 PM

[up]The latter has to do with Lettergate.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#36304: Jul 3rd 2016 at 9:53:57 PM

EDIT: Reddit thread...

I'm actually at a loss for words at the moment.

edited 3rd Jul '16 10:10:02 PM by Soble

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#36305: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:08:50 PM

Here's the TL;DR of the letter: Shane acts like Monty's a god who could do no wrong, and that RT is pissing on his legacy by not doing exactly how Monty planned it. Lots of people at Rooster Teeth, including people who don't work there any longer called Shane out saying it was bullshit. Hell, J.J. Castillo (Mercury's VA in Volume 2) even said Shane was dragging his name through the mud [lol]

And on the Adam thing: It was in the Volume 3 Finale livestream where they confirmed about Adam being abusive to Blake in the past

edited 3rd Jul '16 10:11:41 PM by BlackSunNocturne

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#36306: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:27:32 PM

Well so far I've read the letter, some fan responses to it, but nothing from the RT staff themselves. Anyone have a link to that?

[up] RWBY Wiki backs that up too:

In the RWBY Volume 3 Marathon livestream, the RWBY crew note that Adam's behavior toward Blake in "Heroes and Monsters" is abusive and express that they are uncomfortable with it

Which seems like a disconnect from the Adam we saw in the Black trailer, and the Adam we saw during Cinder's flashback, before and after Blake left.

edited 3rd Jul '16 10:38:35 PM by Soble

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thatdude Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#36307: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:28:11 PM

Not to mention he claims only he and Sheena, Monty's widow, were the only ones who knew what Monty's vision for the show was. Which is all kinds of bullshit from the fact that Miles and Kerry were also writers on the show, which you'd think Monty would want to keep in the loop, and Jeff Williams who said this recently.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#36308: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:36:20 PM

Honestly, the whole letter thing honestly makes Shane seem more like a Loony Fan of Monty's than anything else.

[up]Also this.

But seriously people: Let's stop discussing this issue and go back to other things. Like how likely it is for Bumblebee to become canon or something [lol]

Speaking of ships: Anyone notice that of the four in RWBY, Blake's the one who's got the largest number of commonly-shipped ships? I can think of Bumblebee, Monochrome, Ladybug, and Black Sun all off the top of my head.

[up][up]You can be abusive to someone, and not show it during meetings and missions because it'd cause problems during said meetings/missions.

edited 3rd Jul '16 10:46:24 PM by BlackSunNocturne

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#36309: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:44:34 PM

Which one of them would have the baby and which would be the father...nuclear style?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#36310: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:45:56 PM

Um, going to kindly vote in favor of not talking about shipping for 10-20 pages on end. Seriously, like anything else. I will read up on and then passionately discuss Newtonian physics versus Remnant's physics over talking about whose banging who.

I mean there has to be a sub-reddit for this, and they have a master list of RWBY ships.

edited 3rd Jul '16 10:48:27 PM by Soble

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#36311: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:47:44 PM

I'd rather talk about anything else aside of Shane's letter. Hence why I put forwards the shipping idea because I wanted to Change the Uncomfortable Subject. Because yeah.

Actually, you know what I want to see? Taiyang having some badass moments. Because if he taught Yang, that means he's a very good hand to hand fighter. Plus: I'd love to see some Taiyang going all Action Dad Papa Wolf on some White Fang punks [lol]

edited 3rd Jul '16 10:49:21 PM by BlackSunNocturne

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#36312: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:49:44 PM

Again, just, innocently throwing it out there:

  • Newtonian physics.
  • RWBY Chibi.
  • RWBY Japanese dub.
  • Whatever happened to the RWBY manga?
  • What does everyone want to see in Volume 4?
  • Should we fix the RWBY Nightmare Page again?
  • If you could cosplay as only one RWBY character, who would it be?
  • How did you first get into RWBY?
  • Is Adam really abusive or are we all just projecting?
  • What will happen to Penny ?
  • Are Pyrrha jokes getting old?

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edited 3rd Jul '16 11:03:10 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#36313: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:55:05 PM

The answer is yes to those last three.

edited 3rd Jul '16 10:55:26 PM by randomness4

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#36314: Jul 3rd 2016 at 10:56:00 PM

What I want to see in Volume 4:

  • The rest of Team FNKI
  • Weiss getting out from under her father's thumb
  • Blake/Yang making up
  • Taiyang kicking the ever-living shit out of Adam (and living, because I know someone would say that)

Which character I'd cosplay?
Whoever would work best with my girlfriend's preferred RWBY cosplay. (Yes, I'm sappy as fuck I know.)

Adam's abusive as hell and also a frigging psychopath.

Penny's gonna come back. I feel it.

And the Pyrrha jokes were old the day Volume 3's finale came out.

Edit: On the Adam thing, even Blake's comments about him in Volume 2 and 3 paint him as abusive.

Plus, her comments during the monologue in volume 2 when RWBY is around the campfire seems to heavily imply that Adam was abusive to her.

Blake: I had someone very dear to me change. It wasn't in an instant, it was gradual...little choices that started to pile up. He told me not to worry. At first, they were accidents, then it was self-defense. Before long, even I began to think he was right. This is all just...very...familiar. But you're not him. And you've never done anything like this before. So...I want to trust you. I will trust you.

edited 3rd Jul '16 11:01:10 PM by BlackSunNocturne

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#36315: Jul 3rd 2016 at 11:02:40 PM

Wouldn't a Daddy-Daughter double teaming the almighty edge-lord be more "epic"? Complete with a finisher from Black because she's never gonna beat him while he still has that completely normal sword...blade.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#36316: Jul 3rd 2016 at 11:08:03 PM

I had someone very dear to me change. It wasn't in an instant, it was gradual...little choices that started to pile up. He told me not to worry. At first, they were accidents, then it was self-defense. Before long, even I began to think he was right. This is all just...very...familiar.

That didn't initially strike me as being about Blake, not in Volume 2 anyway.

I mean, it could be a metaphor (the way it's worded, granted), but I generally don't hear someone describe physical or emotional abuse as "self defense." That seemed to strongly indicate she was talking about the White Fang's changing agenda.

Little choices referring to choices Adam made as leader lieutenant whatever position he's actually in. Adam telling Blake not to worry about the direction the White Fang is going in. Faunus riots and human casualties being accidents, then self-defense. On the train, Blake's concerned over killing the train's passengers while Adam didn't care. He's shifting from "I didn't want any loss of life, it was an accident" to "I didn't want to kill that human, it was self-defense."

Blake severed the train car, and also her tries, not only with Adam, but with the White Fang as a whole.

edited 3rd Jul '16 11:11:12 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#36317: Jul 3rd 2016 at 11:21:05 PM

It's not exactly self-defense if he's hitting her...but maybe that's a new phase of their relationship and hasn't happened before.

Actually if he abused her at all and she was smart enough to leave she should hat his guts...not try to reason with him.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#36318: Jul 3rd 2016 at 11:42:00 PM

"What are the problems Volume 3 shares with Volume 2?"

Let see:

the darkness shift, since they plan to make the show go darker in volume 3 then by necesity volume 2 should be the perfect moment to do it, with breach ending the grimm treat at great cost and having some sense of dread a head to warn the audience something is coming.....

Instead it end with pretty cheery good ending where the bad guys are kick around, the grimm are defeat it in pretty bad guy and aside of Cinder being vague as always it end in nothing, making the sudden shift in Volume 3 more random and out of nowhere.

the second issue first make villian looks incompetent consider they get away with nothing and them pull a reversal and make hero a bunch of idiot consider how thing go bad for them, every victory RWBY have in the other two volume is render null and void by volume 3 which in turn make Cinder a villian sue or al least really overpower.

there is also some issue of chararterization, for example Phyrra, if her destiny was to die them they should build her more, make her talk with others or a least interact with RWBY,teacher,etc, aside of June she interact with Nora and Ren(and only because her crush) and with Weiss in volume 1, so is not surprising some fans like New guy will consider her death as stuffed in frige so Jaune can angst a little more(and if lancaster end being canon will only mudd thing even more)

"i liked the Arkos moments, the first time we saw Goliath and hell, Oobleck is kind of cool."

the Arkos moment where painfully anime, "the cool loser who feel bad about being a looser, the super ace women who love the cool loser because he is nice to her and bitchy women who dosent give shit" yeah.....

The goliath? those lazy ass grimm? please

" didn't Miles/Kerry say Adam was always intended to have been abusive towards Blake and not suddenly have him be revealed to be an asshole?"

Maybe but presentation said otherwise: first is show as extremist in black trailer but that it, them working with Cinder because she pretty much bully into it and them BOOM, super yandere!, so yeah that feel pretty damn random

"sometimes Monty's vision was bullshit."

Yeah, the train sequence was also his idea because in his own words "I want boss fights" yeah, that didnt end good...

" Makes me wonder what else Monty had planned."

Well, we know Raven was going to atack JRNP to "forshadow thing to come", Adam and Yang where going to have extended fight and Jaune would have kill Phyrra in accident.

"I'm expecting Yang to undergo a Took a Level in Cynic."

Yeah, it will be less moaping and more "everything just fucking suck!" and being more of party popper in general, maybe even more violent

"anyone notice that of the four in RWBY, Blake's the one who's got the largest number of commonly-shipped ships? I "

I will said because she is seen as Yang(follow by Weiss and them Ruby) as most "mature" of the paring in romantic stuff consider she use to lived alone,probably have some crush on Adam, is more introvert and less prone to silly behivor(unless her catness is involed) not surprising the crew pretty much make a cover pervert with her book, if I have to guess is the other reason bumblebee is more popular than white rose: Weiss and Ruby are too inmature yet

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#36319: Jul 4th 2016 at 1:37:28 AM

I'd love to discuss the Japanese dub but no one answered my question of where I could find it. You know, assuming it's like the original version and I don't have to go troll alternative sources.

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#36320: Jul 4th 2016 at 2:27:44 AM

[up]If you are truly desperate you can buy the blu ray or DVD from the Rooster Teeth store. Keep in mind that it's Japanese-audio exclusive with English subtitles.

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#36321: Jul 4th 2016 at 7:33:29 AM

@unknowing I can see your points and agree. I don't dislike Volume 2, but it does certainly have some problems that should've been fixed.

Hopefully Volume 4 does a good job handling the new Darker and Edgier tone. A usual response I see when people complain about Volume 3's darkness is that the show's pulling an Empire Strikes Back (IE: Having the heroes be in a spot where the baddies are currently winning, but the good guys will be able to come out on top next time.). However, I'm kinda doubting that's the case. Things likely won't be getting any easier for them and probably won't be for a while.

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#36322: Jul 4th 2016 at 7:50:51 AM

[up]It even worst because luke and friend manage to score good wins against the empire, RWBY? not even that as Cinder render all that null and void.

And yes I dont see it back to light hearted part, Yang is cinic now,Weiss seen more submisive and so own.

Also, did you people talk about a trailer? where it is?

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#36323: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:05:45 AM

Yeah, I don't remember much about how the second film ended since it's been awhile since I've last played Lego Star Wars 2(NOTE:I've never watched a Star Wars film in full, I'm mostly familiar with the stories from the Lego games.), but I don't remember the ending of The Empire Strikes Back being all that hopeless. Sure Han's turned to stone and Luke lost a hand, but it didn't feel like the heroes couldn't get back from this failure.

With Volume 3, things look like they don't seem like they could get any better for any of the heroes or even the villains. I don't expect the show to go fully doom and gloom next volume, but I'm doubting that things will be going well for either side, besides maybe Weiss if she can break outta Atlas. Doubting also that we'll be seeing that many laughs either, besides maybe from Nora. And even then, I'm thinking since we'll probably be seeing her and Ren's old village, she'll be having a "Blue Screen Of Death" moment or even a phase for the volume.

So yeah, I find the whole "Volume 3 is pulling an The Empire Strikes Back" thing hard to believe.

edited 4th Jul '16 8:06:37 AM by ScottPilgrim2013

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UndyingPhoenix Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#36324: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:35:47 AM

Hehe.

Adam is Darth Vader, Yang is Luke.

And now Pyrrha is stone (cold dead).

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#36325: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:37:30 AM

(ಠ_ಠ)

Again with the Pyrrha jokes? Come on people, come up with some new material. [lol]


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