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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#35651: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:15:56 PM

Is hard to said Ruby would suprass him seen now he show her why he is the biggest pimp in the place and show her a healthy does of ultraviolence, the first two volume show what this girl can do, only for volume 3 said "in the end, not that much"

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#35652: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:46:34 PM

http://imgur.com/rJIfZH3

Apparently, Cinder is a fan of Arrow. [lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#35653: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:52:36 PM

[up]So, another reason to hate herevil grin

Also, im the only who think that weird bow and arrow are her semblence?

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#35654: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:55:02 PM

[up][up]And then it's revealed Pyrrha is an Olicity fan.

[up]The glass thing might be her semblance.

edited 4th Jun '16 8:55:59 PM by Cross

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35655: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:00:19 PM

Cinder's powers are just....

She had the swords pre-Maiden powers. She got maiden powers and she used fire, while Amber didn't, Amber used wind and ice almost exclusively IIRC (or did she?). Before all that, Cinder had a bug crawl out of her hand.

...a bug that saps Maidenpowers somehow.

After ward, her fire abilities seem to have evolved to a level where she can effortlessly counter Glynda's magic, as well as fire lasers. The next we see of her, she's Catwoman, able to drop armored soldiers with karate chops to the neck. Then she forgoes her Maidenhax and takes out a lobby of guards with her flame-emitting swords, which we later see transform into a bow.

And then she changes outfits in a magical, holographic light, suggesting her Semblance might be based on Cinderella.

And now, circa Volume 3, apparently she can speak with and even pacify the Grimm to some extent.

Robbing the Superpower Lottery in a world where gun control practically doesn't exist is impressive.

edited 4th Jun '16 9:14:45 PM by Soble

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#35656: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:01:49 PM

Pretty sure Amber used fire against Mercury.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#35657: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:02:03 PM

Before getting the Maiden powers she had some exploding arrow triangle trick that depleted Amber's aura. That's a pretty big one.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#35658: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:03:27 PM

Cinder's weapons are Dust creations.

AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#35659: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:12:37 PM

Cinder had the glass ability pre maiden, but it wasn't as powerful as she couldn't start creating her weapons from thin air until she gained half the power. Likewise at first she created the explosive eyes from formations of several arrows, but afterwards could just toss them out at will.

Beyond the magic ability being a maiden seems to increase ones default abilities as well. In fact Cinder mostly relied on that, and some flame magic as opposed to all the elements at her disposal.

So like if say, Blake became a Maiden she'd be able to spam element clones by the dozens without needing dust, in addition to the elemental magic.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35660: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:22:04 PM

So like if say, Blake became a Maiden

Out of playful spite, I was going to make a joke about Blake never becoming a maiden, being part-cat and also being 17 with a confirmed mentor whose part-bull, even went the extra mile and did a quick Google search on sexual intercourse between cats, just to make sure the joke worked...

...the results of that search however, were so horrifying I don't feel comfortable making the joke anymore.

Pretty sure Amber used fire against Mercury.

I... totally missed it. I remember hail and wind. Need to check that out.

Before getting the Maiden powers she had some exploding arrow triangle trick that depleted Amber's aura. That's a pretty big one.

And that, I guess. She fashioned a dress, she conjured a storm of arrows. Maybe her semblance is just straight materialization on a small scale. Or mimicry.

edited 4th Jun '16 9:27:45 PM by Soble

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#35661: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:38:51 PM

They never said you have to be a Virgin to be a Maiden. Just a young woman. And even young is relative as the 20 something Amber and Cinder are still young enough, though Glynda was apparantly too old.

Amber did use flame on Mercury (it's pretty notable as it burns his pants away exposing his robo legs for the first time) but she fired it from her staff, before she seemingly started using her Maiden power so that may not count.

And while Cinder can materialize stuff, until she became half maiden, she was limited to shards of glass to toss at people. She carried regular blades that combined into a bow and had a quiver of arrows. Once she got the half maiden power is when she could just form swords form a bow, and make arrows out of thin air.

WillDeRegio Since: Jan, 2015
#35662: Jun 4th 2016 at 10:02:48 PM

There ain't no rule for 80-year-old Maidens. They just have to start out young.

I wonder if there is an age limit for how young someone can be to be a Maiden.

wild mass guessOne of the Maidens is a little girl.wild mass guess

edited 4th Jun '16 10:03:44 PM by WillDeRegio

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#35663: Jun 5th 2016 at 1:18:05 AM

On Torchwick, I may keep saying this, but I really like the theory that he's a prototype for Project Penny.

They both have the same hair colour; they both hail from the same fairytale (Pinocchio, with Penny being the titualar character and Roman being the tempter/poisonous friend Candlewick/Lampwick); Ironwood seemed to recognize him beyond "Oh, famous criminal" (both in his speaking around him and the fact that he locks him up on an airship, presumably for transport back to Atlas instead of being tossed in a normal cell); and funnily enough, both never show their Semblance. Maybe it's because they've only been using aura slightly longer than Jaune.

Of course, the "Actually a robot" thing works in favour of Torchwick's survival, as he could be rebuilt.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#35664: Jun 5th 2016 at 1:30:02 AM

dRoy, you're slacking. Start complaining more!

Uh...uh...uh...

Oh darn it, I can't think of anything to complain about. XP

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35665: Jun 5th 2016 at 2:08:48 AM

[up][up]So...all fairy-tale based Orange-heads are robot people?

S'that what you getting at? Maybe I just didn't understand.

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Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#35666: Jun 5th 2016 at 3:33:58 AM

You dissapoint me, dRoy. Looks like I'll have to take up your slack:

You know who sucks? Qrow. I don't even know where to start, but let's try. I won't claim that every character in RWBY is super original, but there is no denying RT has dogded our expectations more than once. I love this show for one of reasons being its characters. It feels like writers relly do enjoy making up their quirks. And writing dialogue is like roller coaster for them. What I'm trying to say, characters in RWBY feel fairly fresh and unforced. At least to me.

And then there ir Qrow - one of the most uninspired, bog standart, cookie cutter, by the numbers, generic badass not only in this show, but entire fiction I'm familiar with. There is nothing substantional this guy ads to almost any scene he's in. I can count only three scenes which justify his existance: telling Yang about Raven, fighting with Winter and... death glare from Taiyang, maybe? Rest is him drinking, leaning against a wall and directing snide remarks towards children. What a fucking badass! But wait, is he badas enough to compete with this guy?

Lets be real here for a moment - Qrow isn't interesting, nor funny, nor unpredictable and he's more a badbutt than badass. Like most shitty designated badasses. He however is perfect image of an alpha through and through. And I'm certain most of his fans are betas ans macho wannabes. Like fans of most shitty designated badasses.

There, this is how it's done, dRoy.

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Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#35667: Jun 5th 2016 at 3:37:35 AM

Seems like you are doing good job as a complainer.

Does this mean that I can take a vacation now?

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35668: Jun 5th 2016 at 3:52:02 AM

[up][up]Badbutt still means cool like fire to me...so you were saying he sucks, but is still very cooling.

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Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#35669: Jun 5th 2016 at 4:22:44 AM

[up][up]With how many times Garfield sends Nermal to Abu Dhabi, that place can not be bad. Consider it for your vacation plans.

[up]You're better off with actual cooling system... or moving to Finland.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#35670: Jun 5th 2016 at 4:47:34 AM

Personally, I considered Roman's death to be completely fitting.

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#35671: Jun 5th 2016 at 5:02:01 AM

fitting? probably. satisfying? i sure don't feel that way.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35672: Jun 5th 2016 at 5:12:20 AM

[up] (2)

What gets me is why the loose end with him getting captured? They could've just killed him in Volume 2 when the train crashed - which would have made perfect sense honestly, given that Neo bailed, Raven was presumably somewhere in the vicinity, and Torchwick was unconscious.Mercury even points out that "a lot of White Fang died in those tunnels." Cinder writes off Roman in that scene, dismissing the fact that he and several WF died when they rushed the plan. Then Adam shows up. Scene. We are completely done with Torchwick. Having Torchwick survive these incredible circumstances indicates you want to keep this character around, that you want to do more.

We could then establish that Neo really is a smirking psychopath in her Volume 3 scenes, showing that any assumed loyalty with Torchwick was just part of the job. While it was amusing to watch her and Torchwick tag-team Ruby, this scene didn't need to happen if he (and Neo) were simply going to be axed.

Instead, there's cheeky scenes where Neo strolls onboard an Atlas ship, gives Torchwick his hat back, and gleefully watches the destruction they cause, texting Torchwick with an emoticon when she locates Ruby. This made me really like these two characters, it made me want to learn more about them. Torchwick actually showed concern for Neo, that indicated there was more to them than 'petty crook-bodyguard', not a romantic something, but something.

But let's get back to Torchwick dying. Kill him off in Volume 2, when his interaction with Team RWBY was at its peak, when Blake had obtained a symbolic victory over him, choosing to save Weiss, finally getting past her obsession with the WF.

Neo basically had her own agency in Volume 3, being on Cinder's team, hijacking Ironwood's ship effectively on her own. She could've stolen it, shot the other ships, and then crashed it. And then the big "team fight" could've happened, Pyrrha fights Cinder, Ruby ascends the pillar, and then we could've made the lengthy Qrow scene longer to make up the time lost from Ruby fighting Torchwick and Neo. Or, I don't know, shown what Ruby did to the giant Grimm instead of that big flash and Qrow explaining the whole thing for 5 minutes.

Torchwick could have died on the train and, while I'd miss his cane-fu and his swagger, that would be more fitting to me than "gets saved, breaks out of jail, captures a ship, comments on how good it is to be back, gets eaten."

edited 5th Jun '16 5:34:57 AM by Soble

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#35673: Jun 5th 2016 at 6:38:10 AM

Personally, I disagree (and found his death funny and satisfying and also made the Grimm more credible as threats). I think killing him here was the best time to do it.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35674: Jun 5th 2016 at 6:42:40 AM

More credible? Bzzz, eating someone off-guard during a rampage isn't exactly credible of da mindless beasty.

They just caught him monologuing.

edited 5th Jun '16 6:43:36 AM by randomness4

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Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#35675: Jun 5th 2016 at 8:34:33 AM

Yeah, they weren't really more threatening from catching a dude off gaurd. I could take or leave Roman surviving, but even if he's dead I wouldn't mind much, since I think it'd be cool for Neo to act as the new consistent villain who pursues the heroes out of vengeance. We could even get an episode like the backstory one for Cinder, Emerald, and Mercury where we learn how she and Roman met, and how their partnership formed.

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