Racist Zoidberg...he ain't no doctor.
Snowflake is pretty cool, because she's rich.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice."You mean...we don't?! "
You are more busy running meme on the ground that everything else
Nop but is quite diferent, as Qrow is the only one who adress Ironwood in the context of brotherhood and him being headmaster of Atlas and as you see he kind mock Atlas to Winter face
No, but but the hability to load the question(which is what Cinder did) dosent nulifiy the issue: that Atlas decide for some weird reason t bring a human looking,aura welding robot to tournament and not telling anyone, even if Cinder dosent said a thing people are abount to question because that is a weird think to do
That is of course if Atlas was ever going to tell someone as high secret project that usually dosent happen
Because Ozpin is not kind of person who really try to be understand, he is very cryptic and vague with everything, does the broterhood even know his ties with Salem?
And about my favorite RWBY, desing wise would be Ruby, storywise would be Yang, mocking wise would be Blake
Not at all. You and I are just focussing on different issues raised by the scenes. I do think there's a meta-point to Qrow's rough reference to Atlas that goes beyond Winter and Ironwood (connected to the WoR warning about Atlas's militarisation), but the in-universe reason he worded things the way he did was to bait Winter.
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That is of course if Atlas was ever going to tell someone as high secret project that usually dosent happen
I'm not claiming that there isn't a good question to ask about Penny's design. I'm saying that Cinder has deliberately destroyed the opportunity to ask good questions. A good question generates rational discourse that leads to a useful, informed answer. That's what Cinder is making sure doesn't occur.
If people think about things, they'll spot the holes in her speech, and rational enquiries ruin the powerful emotional response she's after. She needed people to stop thinking and just feel - to automatically jump to the conclusion she groomed them to reach. This is why I say she rendered any 'good' of the question meaningless - if a good question is asked in a bad way, it destroys the opportunity for rational, informed discourse. That is Cinder's intention (and success).
We don't know how involved 'Atlas' has been Penny's creation, or even if they know. Why was Penny created? Let's assume the Atlas government does know. Are her father's motive, Ironwood's motive, and the Atlas government's motive the same or three different, competing ones?
Ironwood told Penny her purpose is to save the world. We know Ironwood thinks human lives can be saved by using technological solutions instead, but we don't know if that desire is linked to Penny's existence. Even if it is, we don't know if it's shared by Penny's father or the government.
Penny raises another question: is she entitled to human rights? It's clearly a no-brainer for Ruby - Penny is a person, end of. But what if Penny has the same instinct for self-preservation as a person? What if her purpose 'to save the world' requires her to die? What if she doesn't want to die? Is that why she wants to leave Atlas for Beacon? Who knows, but I did think it was interesting to hear Ironwood refer to Penny as a 'girl' to Ozpin, instead of a piece of technology.
Ozpin may be limited by whatever he's keeping secret, but we've seen him trying to qualify his statements and stances to Ironwood several times, so he does try to be understood.
There are two types of vaguess we've seen. One is the signs that Ozpin and Ironwood have been hiding things from the Brotherhood, although the characters are mostly on the same page about what the threat is; the group just struggles with individual motives and disagree on how to handle the threat.
Most vagueness comes from the characters together conspiring against the audience. Since they know what they're talking about they don't bother with As You Know to bring the audience up to speed. That bit of realism is just a writer's plot device to keep us guessing.
Glynda and Qrow try to understand Ozpin's motives, Ironwood's frustrations make him act like a bull in a china shop (typically, apparently). The one who empathises most with Ironwood is Ozpin, which is why I wonder if Ozpin may once have been more like Ironwood, and sees Ironwood making the same mistakes he once did. Glynda's comment about Ozpin's different experience is also a sign the gang know something about Ozpin that the audience doesn't.
edited 4th Jun '16 5:29:38 AM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.On the "Would Penny have rights?" thing: The fact that she can generate an aura means she has a soul, which means she's alive. It was brought up a few times in-series regarding "Aura=Soul and all living creatures have an aura". So more than likely she would, and likely does.
And the fact that Ironwood refers to her as a girl and not anything else proves that even he knows she's not Just a Machine.
That's been confirmed for a while
edited 4th Jun '16 8:32:22 AM by BlackSunNocturne
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Of course few people does not equal everyone.
If Grimm are alive, does that mean they have rights? Right to die?
Then what do you call something with supposedly no soul, but still basically fulfil any other condition of being classified being alive? Plant?
Also, Grimm are not The Heartless since as far as we know, they aren't born from negative emotions. They are drawn to them, yes, but IIRC no one knows why.
Only sometimes posts.... Actually, now that I think of it, the Grimm do kind of make me think of the Nightshades
from Pathfinder, except unlike the Grimm, Nightshades are definitely a dangerous foe:
- "The malevolent nightshades are a mysterious form of necrotic abominations composed of equal parts darkness and ineffable evil. They are living wells of hatred and death, their mere presence sapping the light, heat, and life from all around them, leaving nothing but the heavy, hanging pallor of an open grave in their passing. To nightshades, life is a corruption and a blight. Creation must be purged of this disruption, so that all existence can be welcomed into the sweet embrace of darkness and death. To this end, nightshades seek nothing less than the annihilation of all that is, that was, and that will be. [...] Adapting the forms of their kind to pursue the cause of death in every environment and situation, upon the land, in the sky and the sea, and even in the deep places of the world beneath, nightshades marshal their unliving armies. Yet for all their singleness of purpose, they are no mindless beasts. They are clever and patient planners, willing to grant favors to allies or minions as long as they prove themselves useful, and equally willing to turn on them and destroy them the moment their usefulness has been exhausted, rendering their tortured and murdered spirits into deathless slaves."
edited 4th Jun '16 9:51:51 AM by BlackSunNocturne
It'd be an interesting plot development, I guess. Though Ruby's unrepentnant murder of these red-eyed hellbeasts in the first few volumes would make it seem kind of moot. This show hasn't really taken a "Gray On Gray Morality" stance yet. There's dark, and there's light.
edited 4th Jun '16 9:58:18 AM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!You know, while Grimm Rights activists might be bit too much on the nose, an idea of someone (or some people) actually trying to figure out what's the deal with Grimm would be interesting. Sort of reminds me of beginning of Season 2 of Strike Witches where after Yoshika being able to communicate with a humanoid Neuroi (though novels reveal that it was a plan to capture her or psyop tactic to turn the Witches against the military for using Neuroi technology) in hopes that they can make peace. It failed only because the Hive was destroyed by a Super Hive.
Only sometimes postsOh, no doubt someone is out there trying to research the Grimm and find out just what they are and if they can be stopped some more.
While it's been stated that they die in captivity rather quickly, Port did have a Boarbatusk caged in.
@Semblance: Probably Pyrrha too, if only because it was thoroughly explained and displayed.
Plus, Magnetism in general sounds like a cool thing to have.
edited 4th Jun '16 11:39:54 AM by FergardStratoavis
"Today, I learned?"
Weiss is actually my second favorite. Her Semblance seems the most versatile out of everyone's. Which brings me to...
Because wrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy.
edited 4th Jun '16 12:30:51 PM by Soble
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To be fair, Zoidberg was always my favorite.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!