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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#35601: Jun 3rd 2016 at 10:18:22 PM

[up][up] To be fair, Zoidberg was always my favorite.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35602: Jun 3rd 2016 at 10:21:49 PM

Racist Zoidberg...he ain't no doctor.

Snowflake is pretty cool, because she's rich.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#35603: Jun 4th 2016 at 1:23:39 AM

"You mean...we don't?! "

You are more busy running meme on the ground that everything elseevil grin

You quote that as though you think I'd forgotten what was said when I wrote my post

Nop but is quite diferent, as Qrow is the only one who adress Ironwood in the context of brotherhood and him being headmaster of Atlas and as you see he kind mock Atlas to Winter face

Are you saying that the only way to ask the Penny question is the way Cinder did it?

No, but but the hability to load the question(which is what Cinder did) dosent nulifiy the issue: that Atlas decide for some weird reason t bring a human looking,aura welding robot to tournament and not telling anyone, even if Cinder dosent said a thing people are abount to question because that is a weird think to do

the method in which she does it ensures that the truth cannot be told.

That is of course if Atlas was ever going to tell someone as high secret project that usually dosent happen

Instead of trying to comprehend Ozpin (and we still don't understand Ozpin yet ourselves)

Because Ozpin is not kind of person who really try to be understand, he is very cryptic and vague with everything, does the broterhood even know his ties with Salem?

And about my favorite RWBY, desing wise would be Ruby, storywise would be Yang, mocking wise would be Blakeevil grin

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#35604: Jun 4th 2016 at 5:13:19 AM

Nop but is quite diferent, as Qrow is the only one who adress Ironwood in the context of brotherhood and him being headmaster of Atlas and as you see he kind mock Atlas to Winter face

Not at all. You and I are just focussing on different issues raised by the scenes. I do think there's a meta-point to Qrow's rough reference to Atlas that goes beyond Winter and Ironwood (connected to the WoR warning about Atlas's militarisation), but the in-universe reason he worded things the way he did was to bait Winter.

No, but but the hability to load the question(which is what Cinder did) dosent nulifiy the issue: that Atlas decide for some weird reason t bring a human looking,aura welding robot to tournament and not telling anyone, even if Cinder dosent said a thing people are abount to question because that is a weird think to do

...

That is of course if Atlas was ever going to tell someone as high secret project that usually dosent happen

I'm not claiming that there isn't a good question to ask about Penny's design. I'm saying that Cinder has deliberately destroyed the opportunity to ask good questions. A good question generates rational discourse that leads to a useful, informed answer. That's what Cinder is making sure doesn't occur.

If people think about things, they'll spot the holes in her speech, and rational enquiries ruin the powerful emotional response she's after. She needed people to stop thinking and just feel - to automatically jump to the conclusion she groomed them to reach. This is why I say she rendered any 'good' of the question meaningless - if a good question is asked in a bad way, it destroys the opportunity for rational, informed discourse. That is Cinder's intention (and success).

We don't know how involved 'Atlas' has been Penny's creation, or even if they know. Why was Penny created? Let's assume the Atlas government does know. Are her father's motive, Ironwood's motive, and the Atlas government's motive the same or three different, competing ones?

Ironwood told Penny her purpose is to save the world. We know Ironwood thinks human lives can be saved by using technological solutions instead, but we don't know if that desire is linked to Penny's existence. Even if it is, we don't know if it's shared by Penny's father or the government.

Penny raises another question: is she entitled to human rights? It's clearly a no-brainer for Ruby - Penny is a person, end of. But what if Penny has the same instinct for self-preservation as a person? What if her purpose 'to save the world' requires her to die? What if she doesn't want to die? Is that why she wants to leave Atlas for Beacon? Who knows, but I did think it was interesting to hear Ironwood refer to Penny as a 'girl' to Ozpin, instead of a piece of technology.

Because Ozpin is not kind of person who really try to be understand, he is very cryptic and vague with everything, does the broterhood even know his ties with Salem?

Ozpin may be limited by whatever he's keeping secret, but we've seen him trying to qualify his statements and stances to Ironwood several times, so he does try to be understood.

There are two types of vaguess we've seen. One is the signs that Ozpin and Ironwood have been hiding things from the Brotherhood, although the characters are mostly on the same page about what the threat is; the group just struggles with individual motives and disagree on how to handle the threat.

Most vagueness comes from the characters together conspiring against the audience. Since they know what they're talking about they don't bother with As You Know to bring the audience up to speed. That bit of realism is just a writer's plot device to keep us guessing.

Glynda and Qrow try to understand Ozpin's motives, Ironwood's frustrations make him act like a bull in a china shop (typically, apparently). The one who empathises most with Ironwood is Ozpin, which is why I wonder if Ozpin may once have been more like Ironwood, and sees Ironwood making the same mistakes he once did. Glynda's comment about Ozpin's different experience is also a sign the gang know something about Ozpin that the audience doesn't.

edited 4th Jun '16 5:29:38 AM by Wyldchyld

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35605: Jun 4th 2016 at 7:58:19 AM

I'll admit, I'm warming up to this. That Blakejoke yo :3

edited 4th Jun '16 7:58:36 AM by Soble

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TooManyIdeas Magical Princess From Another Dimension from Twilight Town (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
Magical Princess From Another Dimension
#35606: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:23:46 AM

This show fills me with joy every Saturday and I need more of it.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#35607: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:27:48 AM

On the "Would Penny have rights?" thing: The fact that she can generate an aura means she has a soul, which means she's alive. It was brought up a few times in-series regarding "Aura=Soul and all living creatures have an aura". So more than likely she would, and likely does.

And the fact that Ironwood refers to her as a girl and not anything else proves that even he knows she's not Just a Machine.

[down]That's been confirmed for a while [lol]

edited 4th Jun '16 8:32:22 AM by BlackSunNocturne

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Face me now, bitch!
#35608: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:31:43 AM

Ep 5 is out for sponsors. Blake having both human and cat set of ears confirmed.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#35609: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:45:50 AM

[up][up] Of course few people does not equal everyone.

If Grimm are alive, does that mean they have rights? Right to die?

Anyone making custom coins?

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Craving for fish
#35611: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:06:08 AM

[up] So you're saying Grimm are undead?

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#35612: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:21:18 AM

.... That has nothing to do with this?

TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#35613: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:27:11 AM

[up] Then what do you call something with supposedly no soul, but still basically fulfil any other condition of being classified being alive? Plant?

Also, Grimm are not The Heartless since as far as we know, they aren't born from negative emotions. They are drawn to them, yes, but IIRC no one knows why.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35614: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:47:41 AM

We will now have Grimm Rights Activists, made up of people who believe the Grimm are the souls of dead loved ones scouring the earth for vengeance.

edited 4th Jun '16 9:47:58 AM by Soble

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#35615: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:48:18 AM

.... Actually, now that I think of it, the Grimm do kind of make me think of the Nightshades from Pathfinder, except unlike the Grimm, Nightshades are definitely a dangerous foe:

"The malevolent nightshades are a mysterious form of necrotic abominations composed of equal parts darkness and ineffable evil. They are living wells of hatred and death, their mere presence sapping the light, heat, and life from all around them, leaving nothing but the heavy, hanging pallor of an open grave in their passing. To nightshades, life is a corruption and a blight. Creation must be purged of this disruption, so that all existence can be welcomed into the sweet embrace of darkness and death. To this end, nightshades seek nothing less than the annihilation of all that is, that was, and that will be. [...] Adapting the forms of their kind to pursue the cause of death in every environment and situation, upon the land, in the sky and the sea, and even in the deep places of the world beneath, nightshades marshal their unliving armies. Yet for all their singleness of purpose, they are no mindless beasts. They are clever and patient planners, willing to grant favors to allies or minions as long as they prove themselves useful, and equally willing to turn on them and destroy them the moment their usefulness has been exhausted, rendering their tortured and murdered spirits into deathless slaves."

edited 4th Jun '16 9:51:51 AM by BlackSunNocturne

TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#35616: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:49:45 AM

[up][up] Hey, It happened with zombies so why not?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35617: Jun 4th 2016 at 9:56:21 AM

It'd be an interesting plot development, I guess. Though Ruby's unrepentnant murder of these red-eyed hellbeasts in the first few volumes would make it seem kind of moot. This show hasn't really taken a "Gray On Gray Morality" stance yet. There's dark, and there's light.

edited 4th Jun '16 9:58:18 AM by Soble

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#35619: Jun 4th 2016 at 10:33:13 AM

Soul or not the fact that they attack humans without mercy means they kind of have to be killed.

TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#35620: Jun 4th 2016 at 10:36:17 AM

You know, while Grimm Rights activists might be bit too much on the nose, an idea of someone (or some people) actually trying to figure out what's the deal with Grimm would be interesting. Sort of reminds me of beginning of Season 2 of Strike Witches where after Yoshika being able to communicate with a humanoid Neuroi (though novels reveal that it was a plan to capture her or psyop tactic to turn the Witches against the military for using Neuroi technology) in hopes that they can make peace. It failed only because the Hive was destroyed by a Super Hive.

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UndyingPhoenix Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#35621: Jun 4th 2016 at 11:25:56 AM

So what is your favourite Semblance?

Loser Blake jokes aside, I really think her Semblance is the coolest.

TooManyIdeas Magical Princess From Another Dimension from Twilight Town (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
Magical Princess From Another Dimension
#35622: Jun 4th 2016 at 11:37:58 AM

Phyrra's is the coolest. It makes her look like a Jedi.

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A Fluff Ringer
#35623: Jun 4th 2016 at 11:38:32 AM

Oh, no doubt someone is out there trying to research the Grimm and find out just what they are and if they can be stopped some more.

While it's been stated that they die in captivity rather quickly, Port did have a Boarbatusk caged in.

@Semblance: Probably Pyrrha too, if only because it was thoroughly explained and displayed.

Plus, Magnetism in general sounds like a cool thing to have.

edited 4th Jun '16 11:39:54 AM by FergardStratoavis

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#35624: Jun 4th 2016 at 11:40:28 AM

[up] That was actually his lunch but he instead decided to use it for the class tongue

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35625: Jun 4th 2016 at 12:30:06 PM

TIL Ruby

"Today, I learned?"

Favorite RWBY Girls

Weiss is actually my second favorite. Her Semblance seems the most versatile out of everyone's. Which brings me to...

Favorite Semblance

Weiss.

Because wrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy.

edited 4th Jun '16 12:30:51 PM by Soble

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