"I guess my issue with Bumblebee isn't Blake and Yang getting together so much as it is the rampant force feeding of it by 'fans'. "
No surprising at all, this is a series that mix the typical school scenaro of harry potter and X-men with typical anime tropes, those series usually have a very shipping focus fandom.
" Sun was demonized into this abusive stalker when in the actual series he is anything but."
Ha, that is funny consider that the show itself did that with Adam, who move between "extremist for faunus right" to "Bully by Cinder" TO "super duper creepy ex boyfriend" by the way they set up thing, it look bumblebee is going to be canon after they defeat Adam
" Sun is cool though and really himxher while predictable beats the hilariously forced bumblebee."
Really, for me he look like the satelite interst chararter, and of the four I like Yang because I feel she have more devolpment, Weiss them Ruby and finally Blake.
"he had to be replaced by your run-of-the-mill villain Cinder who has the personality of cardboard painted in shades of black so far"
When it come to villian personality; the chart would be like this:
Roman who have express more, them Adam, them Emerald, them Mercury and finally Cinder, we need to see more of her.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"After adam is defeated, Yang and Blake look at each other and kiss in front of everyone.
Adam: I tried so hard and got so faaaar....
Uni catCinder is nowhere near a Villain Sue right now, and anybody who thinks otherwise doesn't seem to understand how storytelling works. The plot basically just got started, and you need to have your villains be a threat so there's some tension. If everything she does for the next two volumes goes her way without any setbacks, then we can talk about if she qualifies.
edited 7th May '16 5:56:05 PM by Karxrida
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Villains need to be a threat. Everyone understands that.
Not everyone likes that everything goes in the Villain's favor. Legitimate failing at least once doesn't stop a villain from being a threat.
edited 7th May '16 6:16:32 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.When a villain has too many things go right in a short period they risk Villain Sue and Cinder is really risking that. Ozpin and co did exactly what she needed them to do for her plan to go off almost flawlessly. And Adam stomped Blake and Yang, AND Ruby only survived being killed by Roman and Neo by dumb luck. That's a few too many wins for the bad guys and makes the good guys look helpless, to the point that Ruby going after Cinder looks more like suicide than anything else.
Even Ruby's "win" while it did break her confidence slightly only stalled things. The dragons still there and Beacon is still lost as a result.
Meanwhile Cinder is the most powerful character in the series now, except for Ozpin and Salem (who barely do anything) and the other 3 Maidens (who haven't been introduced) and is by far more powerful than any of the active characters. And not more powerful as in "it will be tough but they have a chance" but more powerful as in "They don't have a prayer outside of a random plot device of taking her now."
They went too far in the evil wins side. They really should have done something like Emerald or Mercury instead of conveiniently disappearing getting defeated and having to retreat, or Ruby actually killing Roman instead of getting a random save by the Grimm turning on him. Something to say "things are bad now, but they might have a prayer of defeating them down the line" because at it stands the good guys are hopelessly outmatched and might as well just let Salem and Cinder desolate the world. Obviously they will win in the end because it's not one of those stories but I don't see it happening in a statisfying way, that makes sense given the scale of power each character is supposed to have.
I want to know what the hell Cinder did to even gain favor or work with Salem.
She must have had a rough life or very low morals so either she is as evil as Salem is or there is something more we haven't seen yet.
I hated Cinder because she killed Pyrrha but I knew something had to break to get this story rolling.
The good times couldn't last forever....
You can't get it wrong if it's the truth!Based on her obsession that the Fall Maiden's power is hers by right (even though she stole it in the first place) I suspect she had a bad life, was rescued from it by the previous Fall Maiden and was to be the heir to it, but her bad life left her cold to the average man and she wanted to use the power for herself starting with killing her family for mistreating her, and refused to be willing to be sacrificed against Salem for Ozpin's sake so she was passed up.
People were already trying to force the name-sake connections, may not be true because...it's too sympathy inducing.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.That's pretty common though, getting nothing but negative treatment for most of your life will get that cynical view a heavy kickstart in your mind.
Some people, like this Fire lady just can't roll with the punches.
That would make her more pathetic than anything.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I put forward the idea that Cinder is the sole survivor of a village or city that was overrun by the Grimm (potentially Mountain Glenn depending on how long ago that was, if so perhaps her parents ran the famous "Hamburger" shop). She blames men like Ozpin who gave the people hope that they would survive only for it to be proven false when the Grimm slaughtered everyone. Enter Salem to raise her and convince her to tear down all Ozpin has built and boom! Instant villain.
Seriously though, how did Salem and Cinder meet for the first time? Salem's domain seems so inhospitable to human life I can't see anyone having set foot in it and lived for hundreds of years, and her appearance would be so memorable you'd think people would notice (unless Salem killed everybody who saw her or just wore a mask like Raven's). Maybe it's something anticlimactic like the two of them were waiting in line at a Starbuck's and hit it off really well.
That could work if she was on her own; I don't think people would bat an eye at a random Grimm kidnaping someone. If it was a person who could blend in that just raises the question of where Salem met them, is Cinder just the latest in a long line of henchmen and was just the one lucky enough to score sweet powers out of the deal?
Also we know that Cinder was talking to Salem in the flashback, how did that work? Does Salem have some sort of mystical communication method or does she own her own scroll to answer with? Or does she just collect the scrolls of her victims and uses up all their roaming data to pass the time?
So, if Salem was interested in Cinder, then why is she so special?
INB4 a new legend reveals that Cinder is the descendant of *insert important figure* (I expect that to become a Running Gag)
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Yang is in an awful place right now, and Blake bailing, even if for "good" reasons (more like her issues overwhelming her), is just the nail in the coffin. I'm very interested in what they'll do with Yang next volume, but whether or not Bumblebee happens (and there's quite a ways to go if they want to make it believable), I hope the focus is on Yang herself.
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