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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#32076: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:26:57 PM

Frankly, I don't think I want this show to get any darker from this point.

An important character died, as well as school closing down, with society's collapse imminent. I feel that we need to see some reconstruction and counterstrike from heroes, even if gradually.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#32077: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:28:18 PM

So, primary problem seems to be that the updating schedule the show is burdened with made it so the pace of the show, and the pace of its tonal shift, hard to swallow.

Therefore, if it'd been paced more like a normal show, it'd be a shocker but fine & dandy.

Did I get that right?

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#32078: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:29:22 PM

But to reach the Vault you actually have to use the elevator. How did she find it in the first place?

Maybe she was just standing in the elevator and nobody noticed

Jaune: Guys, don't you feel like an evil presence here?

Cinder: Jaune, it's only your imagination

Jaune: Maybe you are right mysterious sexy voice

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#32079: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:29:53 PM

The pacing doesn't account for the length of the chapters...is what.

edited 13th Apr '16 3:31:15 PM by randomness4

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#32080: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:30:55 PM

Thank God this series isn't Attack on Titan.

It would take forever to reveal what is in the Vault. evil grin

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#32081: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:32:16 PM

[up][up][up] The lift is very easy to spot when you enter the building and is pretty public knowledge - you can see that in the few shots of the vestibule that we get to see (and especially when Pyrrha enters the lift for her meeting).

Cinder only needed to know if it was going up or down, and if she wasn't in the vestibule physically watching the lift, then her little hack of Beacon's systems probably could have told her where the lift was going.

edited 13th Apr '16 3:33:43 PM by Wyldchyld

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UndyingPhoenix Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#32082: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:35:38 PM

[up][up][up][up] is it wrong that I can actually see that happening?

edited 13th Apr '16 3:36:06 PM by UndyingPhoenix

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#32083: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:53:57 PM

"But having Cinder fail to get Fall's power, and then limping away, having barely won a fight with a peer — an enormously talented fighter wielding half of Fall's power — would be much better on that count than having Cinder gain Fall's full power and then kill Pyrrha without much of a fight. "

Yeah YMNV having cinder defeat a btter fighter with the power she work so much would make her the protagonist of the story, not the villian

"That's what I was trying to get at when I brought up Harry Potter and Avatar as examples of tone shifts that did a better job"

To be fair, harry potter have a men with two face it and a freaking gigant serpent whispering the main chararter and avatar have the scene with core of monk gyapso, the tone didnt become darker, just focus in the overall goal.

Now, steven universe, aventure time or gravity falls can fall better in what you are describing

"critically aclaimed example is Puella Magi Madoka Magica, which leads the viewer to believe it's going to be a lighthearted throwback to the classic Magical Girl genre for the first quarter of the show, only for things to suddenly go to hell and the world to turn out to be a much scarier and bleaker place than the viewer was initially lead to believe"

Oh the butcher, a truly master of despairevil grin

"So how edgy should the show go? "

Until linking park is use in the opeing themeevil grin

[up][up][up]And ruby will be more uselss than Blaketongue

Jovian have right in some points: the show didnt make the transition good enought, it spend more time with cute chararters and badass fights, volume 2 make something with Mercury and emerald killng tuskon but them it go back to roman being defeat as saturdar moring villian and awfull ending, In fact I was really close to abandoned the show for the same reason jovian will be now: because having four colorfull waifu have super badass fight dosent apeal to me.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#32084: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:55:21 PM

[up] Not everything Urobochi has made is insanely bleak. Just some of it, though it's probably not coincidental that a list of his most popular works largely intersects with his darkest.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#32085: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:01:50 PM

Wasn't Urobutcher last show not all that Dark to begin with?

Let's hope his name doesn't show up in consultants for next volume like George R. R. Martin did tonguetonguetongue

Uni cat
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#32086: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:03:12 PM

[up]Do you mean Kamen Rider Gaim? That was the best. waii

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
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#32087: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:06:48 PM

Kamen Rider Gaim is considered to the Darkest Kamen Rider to date, up there with the Shin Kamen Rider Prologue movie.

Watch Symphogear
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#32088: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:15:59 PM

Hey, the butcher is dark but no much as Chiaki Konaka, the guy who make tammer because he feel "children story dosent deal with death" and write the most chultutish episode in digimon 2, poor,poor jury....

edited 13th Apr '16 4:16:15 PM by unknowing

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#32089: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:21:28 PM

The thing is, the could get rid of fatigue by changing the status quo every 3 volumes and after volume 21, have the story focus on the descendants/adopted children of the characters

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#32090: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:22:52 PM

So basically like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

edited 13th Apr '16 4:23:06 PM by dRoy

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#32091: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:24:12 PM

I only have limited knowledge of Jojo so explain more in depth

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#32092: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:28:58 PM

[up]Jojo's basically follows the lineage of Jonathan Joestar, starting with him and ending with his descendant, Jolyne Cujoh. Then the universal reset happened, and Steel Ball Run and Jojolion became a thing.

Volumes 1-5 Phantom Blood, Jonathan Joestar; Volumes 5-12 Battle Tendency, Joseph Joestar; Volumes 12-28 Stardust Crusaders, Jotaro Kujo; Volumes 29-47 Diamond Is Unbreakable, Josuke Higashikata; Volumes 47-63 Vento Aureo a.k.a. "Golden Wind", Giorno Giovanna; Volumes 64-80 Stone Ocean, Jolyne Cujoh (note:Beginning with this part, each new part restarts the numbering at 1).

edited 13th Apr '16 4:32:58 PM by BlackSunNocturne

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#32093: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:30:58 PM

I'm thinking there should also be multiple villain factions

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#32094: Apr 13th 2016 at 5:35:20 PM

I mean, if someone had to die, Pyrrha was the best candidate, and she went out in the best possible way. It's not for nothing that people had been making "death flags" jokes about her for literal years before it became Harsher in Hindsight.

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#32095: Apr 13th 2016 at 5:38:45 PM

Her blandness killed her in the end.

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#32096: Apr 13th 2016 at 5:49:37 PM

I personally would've waited a few more volumes

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#32097: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:00:16 PM

@Ninety: I wasn't joking when I said that; I saw this coming from miles and miles away, as did many others.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#32098: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:03:27 PM

Plus, in my opinion, her being based on a Greek hero who's DEATH is one of his most well-known aspects also didn't help her life expectancy.

edited 13th Apr '16 6:03:53 PM by BlackSunNocturne

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#32099: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:04:17 PM

Her blandness killed her in the end.
She was only bland because they set up a character arc for her and then didn't follow through.

If we're talking about everyone in teams RWBY and JNPR, then Ren is the blandest by far. He's quiet guy, introverted guy to Nora's loud, outgoing girl... and that's about it. At least Nora tends to make her presence known when she's on screen. Ren's just sort of eternally in the background. Honestly, in terms of characterization and narrative focus they get, I'd actually put Jaune and Pyrrha above Blake.

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#32100: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:06:22 PM

I hope they get development later

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