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Do you remember where you heard that? I'd like to know where the source was, if possible.
That "anti-darkness" "trend" was started because we're sick and tired of how so many works in today's media are all senselessly edgy and cruel grimdark shitfests that constantly pile on bleak hopelessness and bitter cynicism, constantly have the heroes fail and die horribly while the villains succeed in literally all their plans, all for the sake of being "mature", "realistic" and "edgy".
I am utterly sick of it, and so are many other people.
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Could you provide some examples, because I can honestly think of absolutely nothing that I've seen or heard of that fits this "trend" you're talking about, save for, like, Game of Thrones.
edited 22nd Mar '16 10:54:11 AM by Alfric
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Recent remakes of popular series that aren't incredibly dark, being made much darker. IE: DMC: Devil May Cry, the Tomb Raider reboot, the Nolan Batman movies....
Seeing as how that one had Superman KILLING Zod, yeah. That's much darker than the comics.
edited 22nd Mar '16 11:00:38 AM by BlackSunNocturne
Well it depends of the genre since so have more darkness than other:
Comic book heros are SICK of darkness since getting darker and eger and killing chararter are typical tactic this days, if you see trope page of comic series the more like are the one who reversed that stuff or go back to "fun comics" this explain why somes fans dosent like DC aproach to their movies compared to Marvel.
Cartoon series on the other hand are getting better in this regard, droping mature subjects(like divorce, same sex couple,etc) nad having very dark moments, and you can say whatever you want about being edgy and stuff but people love villians like the insane Bill cypher or genocdal Lich.
But with RWBY there is a issue of what was is the focus and what is really happeing, the main appeal of the show was a quirky team of color theme girl kicking ass in awsome fights made by Monty, even when as some people point out, the setting is really bleak and dark, so when the show FINALLY catch up with that....people complain.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not""Anti-Dark" would be fine... if it didn't come off in the vein of Tumblr fans whining about their weak emotional states and acting like the writers have physically abused them.
You don't want something that is needlessly dark fine, Has RWBY become needlessly dark?
- No. The Villains got their big win and flipped things on their heads.
Yes that is "Dark" but most stories have the villain succeed for a moment -IE they kill the lancer, they kill the love interest... they take over the world, or unless Buttsmasher! etc etc They get the last slice pizza!
Now if the next four volumes are nothing but the villains win while our heroes look incompetent and get increasing more brutally beaten... You will have a point that the show has become ruthless aggressive and cynical.
The Villain getting a win =/= DARKNESS FOREVER
alot of this comes off as "DON'T HURT MY FEELS" baseless overreaction cause GASP something bad happened or the Volume didn't end on a triumphant note!
Praise be to the absolute Queen
Well, to be fair....this season end REALLY DARK, I meant, the villiasn crup stomp Coco and Yat as nothing, frame yang, force phyrra to perform a fatality on Penny, put distrust about the four contru(or a least Atlas and Vale) the Atlas fleet was destroyed and their robots went Rouge, Amber die, Yang was maimed and Blake kick back to square one, Weiss is with their father,Phyrra just burn and Ozpin is missing.....
So yeah. it was pretty shocking thing since half of the damn volume.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I wouldn't say we're at Game of Thrones territory yet. It was paced kind of poorly and all of a sudden they just threw dark upon dark upon dark.
All of a sudden we went from super happy, to 3 characters dying, the main setting being taken out, the team being broken up, the character they spent 3 seasons opening up to everyone having all that work undone and the most popular happiest character getting mentally destroyed. And then to top it off the only character that actually had a triumph in the finale was snatched away by her father randomly at the last minute anyway.
I mean things are obviously gonna get better, and maybe they just wanted to get all the darkness out of the way at once so it was over and done with, but yeah they kind of changed the entire premise of the show and you risk alienating your fanbase when you do that, and the fans aren't always just gonna happily roll with it.
@SNG: How many times must we go through this discussion?
RWBY was intended to take a darker tone from the get-go. That the pacing of the first two seasons and the half of the third was kind of not helping, but the show was meant to be fairly dark right away.
That you assumed it to be some sort of mahou shoujo shonen is entirely on you.
edited 22nd Mar '16 11:40:06 AM by FergardStratoavis
I think the biggest complain about Bad Guys Win is not the fact itself, but for the fact that they got it with little to no confrontation. No one knew them, so they won due of little of no opposition. Which isn't really something what people want. Then they get beaten up with a Chekhov's Bullet, which doesn't really solve the big problem. It hardly counts as Pyrrhic Victory.
Only sometimes postsI'm firmly of the belief that the Advantage Ball has firmly left Cinder's court and will remain outside it. She's had nothing but successes so far, punctuated by one failure: another season like this one and she'll qualify for Villain Sue. But as of right now, she's perfectly poised for a Fall.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.I mean now that the threat of failure is actually possible then things won't look as hopeful, even if they're winning.
Now unless the person fighting is Ruby people will have the possibility of death in their minds, even if there isn't a single casualty for the rest of the show. It's the old Joss Whedon trick.
It would really hilarious if Cinder actually failed hard in the next couple of volumes because people are aware of her.
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But seriously, can we stop talking about Pyrrha's death. I don't mind her being alive or dead but this is bordering butthurt territory
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Which is kinda of what the writers were going for with this season.
It's kinda funny to be honest.It doesn't seem that long that people were complaining about how the protags should be considered full on huntress because of how OP they are and how no one can challenge them.
edited 22nd Mar '16 12:09:38 PM by DeanCole
"I think the biggest complain about Bad Guys Win is not the fact itself, but for the fact that they got it with little to no confrontation. No one knew them, so they won due of little of no opposition"
Pretty much, in this kind of plot usually there is somewhat looking for the bad guy plans or finding out something is wrong, but that never happen until the last moment when Phyrra face Penny, Cinder just manage to hide from everyone, nobody even know she is there and by the moment the good guy strike back, Roman deliver Ruby the old up and out and Yang hand taste the point end of Adam edgysword.
I dont think Cinder is going to fall anytime soon, it would be to predictable, and too "I want her suffer for what she did to my waifu!" lets wait.
edited 22nd Mar '16 12:09:18 PM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

When my friend and I were riffing on the show he said the same thing about Weiss. "Wow all it took was one lecture from old Armstrong and suddenly she wants to be Ruby's friend?" and "So after thinking about it offscreen she's suddenly cool with Blake?"
Though we also decided it was preferable to her being the typical Tsundere and never never letting up for the sake of humor scenes.
From what I remember hearing Weiss got heavily reworked shortly after the show started because the fans weren't fond of her with her being bitchy, so they quickly had her warm up to everyone.