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Philcoulson I do not think of myself as a king I think of my from From shadows Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#29676: Feb 27th 2016 at 1:27:14 PM

It felt very whedonesque

edited 27th Feb '16 1:27:57 PM by Philcoulson

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#29678: Feb 27th 2016 at 4:58:09 PM

What can of worms though? All he says is basically "Hunters are fools who get themselves killed, so I'm gonna side with these crazy people who are definitely gonna win because I want to get ahead and survive."

People think that means he has some tragic past or something that forced him towards this life, but you know, maybe he's just a selfish jerk, and/or coward and that's it.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#29679: Feb 27th 2016 at 5:10:40 PM

[up]Considering tose crazy people manage to destroy Atlas military, show their dirty screat, causing mistrust in them, manage to kill Phyrra and take Fall Maiden powers and almost kill Blake and Yang, I can see why him side with them.

Is more "you dont know about the villians but they have more power that you cant match" and being self sacrifing sound good and all but without Ruby deus ex machina that would result in nothing, hell just moment before Roman said that speech he was laid down a good round of ultraviolence on her.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#29680: Feb 27th 2016 at 5:45:41 PM

My theory that perhaps he had some kind of huntsman training isn't based on what he said, it's based on how he fought. He clearly had some kind of Aura control which suggests that kind of training. He clearly didn't think too highly of the career, however, which suggests he got out of the game as soon as he could (but that's where his speech would come in).

Qrow did mention the concept of hunters being corrupt or dodgy, or at least less than wholesome, so it's not really much of a stretch to think that someone like Roman could have had at least some huntsman training (or even full huntsman training) before turning his back entirely on it for a life of crime.

It wouldn't be tragic, it would just be (from Roman's perspective) pragmatic.

edited 27th Feb '16 5:46:44 PM by Wyldchyld

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#29681: Feb 27th 2016 at 6:22:39 PM

Do you have to be a Huntsman to have Aura?

I mean Adam and other White Fang guys do and I doubt they were ever hunters. As did Blake prior to going to Beacon she learned to fight in the White Fang.

I don't think the show has said, or said if you have to have your Aura unlocked by an Hunter or if you can just develop it on your own.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#29682: Feb 27th 2016 at 6:34:47 PM

[up][up]well, Roman pretty much try to shatter Ruby wordview and he seen to speak of personal experience, so that means his life was pretty crappy to being with(not surprise, all vilians here since to have one) so maybe he saw the system didn work and fuck out.

Also some experience is understandment, he manage to fight both Blake AND Sun, land a blow to Ruby and pull a little trick with red dust to escape, also he show a good cordination with Neo(which is way more that any damn team in the whole show)

But his speech meants he saw what Salem and team are capable and jump boat

[up]Well, almost all student manage to unlock their aura before enter(Jaune didn because his forge his aplication)

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#29683: Feb 27th 2016 at 6:50:01 PM

[up][up]Having an aura is completely different of having Huntsmen training. For starter, everyone have an aura. For another, every single of the main students, Jaune aside, knew how to control their aura before started having huntsman/huntresses training. Remember, Beacon, Atlas, Haven and Shade are the sole Huntsman academies, but they don't (usually) train people from ground up. Their students learn the basics somewhere else, such as Signal, and not everyone from these places became huntsmen, (most presumably go to the army or the police).

In the end, Aura usage is very basic for any fighter in RWBY universe, to the point even a complete newbie like Jaune can use it with little training. Huntsmen and Huntresses are the most renowned warriors, but they are not the only ones that exist. I am not sure if one can unlock their own aura by themselves, but considerably how trivial it was for Pyrrha, I don't think it is that much of a trouble to get someone else to do for you. I would think organizations such as the White Fang and even Junior's mob have a system for that.

edited 27th Feb '16 6:50:28 PM by Heatth

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#29685: Feb 27th 2016 at 7:08:14 PM

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#29686: Feb 27th 2016 at 7:10:42 PM

[up][up][up]One thing, I thought Wo G was that there were lesser Huntmans academies?

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#29687: Feb 27th 2016 at 7:20:13 PM

[up]I never heard of that, and seems quite contrary to how much of a big deal they make out of the profession and its academies in the show.

But if that is the case, we would still know of at last one school that teach people aura/how to fight without specifically training them to be huntsmen. In the first episode Ozpin asked Ruby where he learned how to fight, to which she answered "Signal Academy". Then Ozpin asked why she as on a "school designed to train warriors", to which Ruby replies she wants to be a huntress. That was her whole answer, which heavily implies studying at Signal doesn't equals to studying to becoming a huntress, meaning Signal also teaches people who pursue another career.

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#29688: Feb 27th 2016 at 7:21:50 PM

Question: Do you think Qrow was sober when he trained Ruby? [lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#29689: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:01:03 PM

People think that means he has some tragic past or something that forced him towards this life, but you know, maybe he's just a selfish jerk, and/or coward and that's it.

It's not that it's impossible. It just seems an incredible waste of a character in that case.

We never saw a body. We don't know what his Semblance was, leaving it up in the air. And we know Neo's not dead, which would make all future appearances of hers rather awkward if Torchwick isn't around, since he seems to have the biggest relationship with her.

RWBY doesn't seem like a show where characters end up being "just selfish jerks". Like with Emerald, Cinder, and Mercury - outwardly they're a bunch of murderous dickbags. But we see Emerald showing pity, and Mercury having an implied rough childhood. They were different people before meeting Cinder, and we still don't know what Cinder's deal is. Even though we have a new villain (Salem?) whose probably responsible for the Grimm, or Cinder's actions, and will likely be the Bigger Bad next Volume - it doesn't mean that Cinder's gang is just a bunch of murderous dickbags because there's a more important person to focus on.

Though, it would explain why we get so little information from or about Torchwick earlier - he really just isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. But then, in a show that is fueled by creative, animesque reinterpretations of historical and fairy tale figures, having a character like Torchwick be axed without any further dialogue definitely seems a waste.

edited 27th Feb '16 8:06:12 PM by Soble

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#29690: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:22:53 PM

Cinder's kind of just a murderous dickbag at this point since any "depth" involving her has primarily been speculation on the part of the fans rather than anything the show has given us...

But at the same time, at the end there, Roman at the very least comes across as being with Cinder for similar reasons to the Fang; the alternative is even worse.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#29691: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:45:51 PM

Perhaps. I just wouldn't go out of my way to call her a murderous dickbag on principle, there's hints that something else is going on in there, like in Volume 2's opening when she's staring up at the invading ships, or when she calls Ozpin arrogant for hiding Amber under the school.

Of course, to call her not a murderous dickbag, would be to defend the mass murder and terror attacks she's been committing. Not the best position to take, but this is a magic-fantasy world with shadow creatures that kill humans for sport, anything's possible.

wild mass guessMaybe it's like Attack on Titan and Humans are the Real Monsters.

edited 27th Feb '16 9:10:25 PM by Soble

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#29692: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:56:43 PM

Cinder's crossed the Moral Event Horizon. I don't really CARE why she does what she does anymore. It's not going to do anything but make me want her to die faster.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#29693: Feb 27th 2016 at 9:18:40 PM

The thing is, they've played their hand too close to their chest with Cinder; she's supposed to be "mysterious", but we don't actually have any real clues as to the truth behind her, just general speculation, and at this point she's an unrepentant murderer.

They just waited too long.

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#29694: Feb 27th 2016 at 11:57:51 PM

I wonder if we'll see Ozpin fight again. He was a fantastic fighter and he's one of my favorite characters.

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#29695: Feb 28th 2016 at 12:38:59 AM

So some time ago, Jeff Williams released an iOS app that allowed people to access the multitrack stems of various RWBY soundtrack songs. I downloaded it and thought it was neat. It comes with This Will Be The Day as a free download, while others need to be bought at 99c each.

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#29697: Feb 28th 2016 at 10:55:58 AM

Do you have to be a Huntsman to have Aura?

According to Pyrrha, everyone has Aura - everything living (humans, faunus, animals, plants). If the world is considered "living" (and in many fantasy-based shows, it is), then the world itself will probably have an Aura, too.

The issue is how people get their Aura trained to such a degree that they learn what their Semblance is, and then become capable of mastering that Semblance.

Blake indicates that people living outside the Kingdoms are probably going to end up learning this just to survive, and it could be that Roman has that kind of background. It would fit in with his survivor motif.

However, within the Kingdoms, the implication is that people go to combat school to learn how to use their Aura and Semblance to fight with. It's indicated that only the elite students end up going to the four advanced Academies, so there's going to be large group of people who have been trained to a certain extent, but have never had that advanced Academy training. So, Roman could easily have some degree of Huntsman training without having been capable of going the whole way (or something happened to prevent him going the whole way, or he did go the whole way and just turned away from the entire path for some reason).

There are plenty of options with Roman, but it boils down to this: he clearly can fight, and can use his Aura in battle. So, he has some kind of background where he grew up learning how to fight and how to use his Aura in battle.

I wonder if we'll see Ozpin fight again. He was a fantastic fighter and he's one of my favorite characters.

I'm absolutely certain we'll see Ozpin again. Salem clearly isn't acting like he's dead, and is instead acting like Ozpin is right there with her. Even Qrow isn't acting like Ozpin's dead. He doesn't seem to know where Ozpin is right now, but he doesn't seem to believe Ozpin's dead either. That said, he seemed to trick Ruby into deciding to go to Haven, so I'm in two minds about what Qrow really knows about Ozpin.

That fight with Cinder was just to whet our apetite. My guess is that it doesn't even come close to revealing what Ozpin is fully capable of and it barely tells us what his cane really is, either. If you freeze frame during the fight, you''ll see that he never uses the lever on his cane.

The fact that Qrow is carrying the cane around suggests to me that Qrow knows what that lever is for, and what the cane's true purpose is.

Salem has indicated that she only wants Ozpin to die after certain things have happened: he's become desperate enough to use his "small, honest soul" in battle (which he clearly hasn't yet done). Then she will ruin that "small, honest soul" (which she clearly hasn't yet done). Then Ozpin will lose hope (obviously hasn't happened yet). At that point, Salem will get to enjoy watching Ozpin burn... which interestingly enough actually isn't a claim he'll die (could be a Fate Worse than Death instead).

There's more to come from Ozpin.

edited 28th Feb '16 11:12:17 AM by Wyldchyld

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#29698: Feb 28th 2016 at 11:02:01 AM

Someone just posted this and I gotta say, yeah, it's true:

"What's surprising about when Blake got ran through by Adam's blade, is her recovery.

Moments after the sword pierced her abdomen, she was able to bolt up, and save her comrade. However, after which, she succumbed to the pain, and lies outside of ground zero, with her midriff wrapped in bandages.

Then a short while after, she abandoned the rest of her allies in likely pursuit of her assailant.

The fact she was able to do what she did, while having a hole in her is nothing short of impressive.

It goes to show her durability and tenacity as a vagrant, and gang member have paid off in terms of fortitude."

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#29699: Feb 28th 2016 at 3:21:01 PM

Or its just adrenaline, like most anime fictional characters have after a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown or grievious injury.

I'm more shocked that Yang passed out immediately from having an arm torn off. That doesn't happen in anime most fiction I watch. They usually give a rousing speech about never giving up before whomping their foe.

edited 28th Feb '16 4:17:56 PM by Soble

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#29700: Feb 28th 2016 at 4:12:07 PM

"The thing is, they've played their hand too close to their chest with Cinder; she's supposed to be "mysterious", but we don't actually have any real clues as to the truth behind her, just general speculation, and at this point she's an unrepentant murderer. They just waited too long."

I dont think she will come as sympatic but at least understandable, again whatever sympathy she and salem have would be related to Ozpin and whatever backstory they have, only time would tell.

[up]eh???? Blake is show again after the time skip, that only show he have plenty of time to recover.

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