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GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#29626: Feb 26th 2016 at 12:04:38 PM

[up][up] He even gave them Coed dorm rooms. It's as if he wants Huntsmen and Huntresses to procreate young in case they die in the line of duty..

Philcoulson I do not think of myself as a king I think of my from From shadows Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Abstaining
I do not think of myself as a king I think of my
#29627: Feb 26th 2016 at 12:10:01 PM

wild mass guess Ozpin is the biggest shipper on deckwild mass guess

edited 26th Feb '16 12:10:19 PM by Philcoulson

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#29629: Feb 26th 2016 at 12:14:54 PM

"Terrans: Obviously the humans and Hunstmen. Only with Aura and shit. "

So, Jaune is jim and ozpin mengsk?

"Now, what if there's suddenly a fourth faction mirroring the Xel'naga? "

the one who blew out the moon of courseevil grin

"Did Cinder actually beat Ozpin?"*

I like to think Cinder jus colapse the whole thing atop of him.

[up][up]Really, who many times we have to repeat it? shipmaster Ozpin vs shipmaster Salem.

edited 26th Feb '16 12:15:08 PM by unknowing

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Philcoulson I do not think of myself as a king I think of my from From shadows Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Abstaining
I do not think of myself as a king I think of my
#29630: Feb 26th 2016 at 12:15:14 PM

Jaune?

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#29631: Feb 26th 2016 at 12:18:14 PM

Jaune could be a half-sibling tongue

If that's true, he will end up having 9 sisters [lol]

Uni cat
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#29632: Feb 26th 2016 at 12:20:12 PM

[up]so did you ship Juane and Weisstongue I call it white sombrero

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Philcoulson I do not think of myself as a king I think of my from From shadows Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Abstaining
I do not think of myself as a king I think of my
#29633: Feb 26th 2016 at 12:36:07 PM

Continuing on:

After a training session, Jaune and Ruby decide to go to the mess hall. Along the way, Ruby trips and Jaune picks her up. The sexual tension is interrupted when Ruby gets a text from an anonymous source telling he to turn around. She does so and sees Neo. Ruby immediately attacks Neo which leads to a small fight scene which is interrupted when a shadowy piece of goop leaps at Ruby. Neo stops the thing and it retreats back into the shadows. Neo then sends a text asking for a ceasefire.

Meanwhile at the SDC, Willow (Weiss's dad) heads into the office of Bartholemew Polendina. Willow says that he is firing him and taking his Human Replica Droid research. Outside, he meets with Ironwood who is currently under investigation.

Back on the boat, Neo explains explains herself via tex because that's the only way she can communicate. She says that she is the daughter of Roman Torchwick and wants revenge on Cinder for leaving Roman to die. She offers her help which the group reluctantly accepts. She also seems to be attracted to Jaune which makes secretly makes Ruby jealous.

That night, Ren can't sleep due to Nora's snoring. He gets up and runs into Jaune who tells him to check the boiler room. They goes down their and Jaune shoves Reninto the room and leaves. Ren almost dies but Nora saves him. When they confront Jaune about it, Neo says he was sleeping the whole time which puts them all on guard.

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Sykosis Dark Matter Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#29634: Feb 26th 2016 at 2:23:41 PM

Yo, Phil, for future reference/whatever the phrase is, you see that pencil icon at your post(s)? That's the edit button everyone keeps telling you about. Try and use it.

And for Roman's sake, compile your story in one post or something instead of fragmenting it over a dozen pages.

Then again, this is actually not a fanfic thread.

What was in your right hand is hope; And in another hand is something else to fade.
BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#29635: Feb 26th 2016 at 2:30:18 PM

[up]This. The RWBY fanfiction thread is over here

edited 26th Feb '16 2:30:35 PM by BlackSunNocturne

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#29636: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:49:52 PM

Salem is a member of a race of super Grimm that were nearly wiped out by Ozpin's actions

I'm all for Salem being Ozpin's angry ex. In fact, if we look at Zeus and Hera, then Salem might not even be an "ex". She probably got pissed off at Ozpin oggling women one too many times, and then when he went and got himself his own little harem (sorry, when he helped those four girls become Maidens) the last straw didn't simply break, it was incinerated. Now she's determined to destroy every last female on the planet.

It'll wipe out the human race in the process (no procreation) but, hey, at least Ozpin won't be able to cheat on her anymore.

On a serious note, my head canon is that the Grimm are Salem's Semblance, which is why there's No Body Left Behind and why they appear to hate humanity so much - they're shards of Salem's mind and reflections of her emotional state.

In other words, Salem does not look like the Grimm, the Grimm look like her.

Did Cinder actually beat Ozpin?

No. The last time we saw Ozpin, he was clearly overpowering her strongest attack. However, a white light started forming at the point where their powers were meeting and suddenly the entire screen went white.

The only other time we've seen that kind of thing happen was when Ruby's eyes activated.

The smug look on Cinder's face as she left makes me think that she believes Ozpin has been defeated or died, but that white light is going to be very important. Either Salem intervened to spirit away Ozpin and Cinder knows that (hence her conversation at the very end of the episode - Ozpin's there, captured, and she's gloating directly to him when she turns around) or Ozpin himself did something, which fooled Cinder into believing she'd won, and Ozpin is talking freely to Salem at the very end of the episode (as opposed to being captured).

Notice how both my scenarios involve Ozpin being in the final scene with Salem. That's because I believe she's looking at him, not the audience. It just depends on whether or not he's there physically (or as some kind of projection) and whether or not he's there by his own will or by hers.

Just rewatched the episode, partly because I wanted to get a good look at Ozpin's eye colour during the fight. They're green. They're on the grey side of green, the way Qrow's eyes are on the grey side of red, but there's a very olive-green look to his eyes when he's fighting. It's subtle, but it's there. I've been thinking for a long time that there's something very, very strange about Ozpin's eyes, which is why I always check on the colour of them.

My head canon is also that the formation of kingdoms and the creation of the hunters and hunter academies were all Ozpin's doing. Everything about the kingdoms and the entire set-up for hunters, stinks of bringing people together, and working as teams. I think Ozpin is very well aware of the fact that Salem functions by the 'divide and conquor' rule, which is why he's always so focussed on team-work and unity.

I still think Salem had him almost beaten many centuries ago, and that he had crawled off into an isolated little corner of the world to sulk in his little own BSOD. The four sisters gave him an idea about the power of unity, which gave him a new lease of life and hope, and he's been going down that route ever since.

It's not that Ozpin is a unity-focussed person so Salem is employing division as a counter, it's that Salem is a divide-and-conquor person so Ozpin has become a unity-focussed person to counter her... and he's the one fighting the up-hill battle as a result.

That's not to say that I don't still think she's got a reason to be seriously pissed off at him and obsessed with how building up hope in someone can crush them when that hope is destroyed, but all those songs which seem to have her pinning all the blame on him do stink of someone who's refusing to take responsibility for their own actions and beliefs. Ozpin very much has The Atoner flag about him, whereas she's got Adam's 'why do you make me hurt you' attitude... taken Up To Eleven.

edited 26th Feb '16 3:52:49 PM by Wyldchyld

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#29637: Feb 26th 2016 at 6:04:14 PM

I never saw as Blake being a bad fighter as just...not really standing out. She's not as flashy and devasating as the other 3. In their two fight team fight scenes all she really did was shadow around ineffectively and make use of her ribbon to toss people. And she was crushed by Torchwick in Vol1's finale (although that finale wasn't exactly kind to anyone on RWBY. Ruby did even less and Weiss and Yang weren't even though. Penny randomly stole the show)

Then she was basically invisible in Vol3 until all of sudden being critical towards the end.

Although she did the best in Vol2's finale by beating up Torchwick when Weiss and Yang got stomped by their enemies.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#29638: Feb 26th 2016 at 6:15:39 PM

[up]That fight in itself wasnt impresive, Blake just crush Roman in less than a minute fight, so people said Roman was nerfed insteat of prasing Blake, even more when Roman manage to deliver a good old ultraviolence on Ruby.

Also I will said at this point Weiss will be the one who take Blake seat as the worst fighter of the four: she lost to not-leatherface in the most hilarious fashon and them try to stop Flin only lost...again in a very "lol, what?" kind of way, let hope her summon hability change that.

[up][up]Is less "Everything is Ozpin fault" and more Salem and Cinder think Ozpin is the evil dumbledore you see in Harry potter fan fics: a cunning and manipulative men who lie to children to fight his battle, just look Cinder comment at the end of "heroe and monster" "such arrogance"

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FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29639: Feb 26th 2016 at 6:18:44 PM

Yet Cinder and Salem are the ones burning down civilization cause they got a grudge

Praise be to the absolute Queen
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#29640: Feb 26th 2016 at 6:37:16 PM

[up]Because so far we dont know what Ozpin mistake is, dosent it? we dont know how far his mistakes are and why Salem and Cinder resent him that way.how sympathy this two will be depend mostly in the nature of their grudge

edited 26th Feb '16 6:37:53 PM by unknowing

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#29641: Feb 26th 2016 at 7:14:59 PM

Honestly I hope they don't try to make Salem sympathetic if her beef is ONLY with Ozpin. Punishing all of humanity for the crimes of a single man is as petty as you can get. If there's something about the Grimm that we don't know, that makes them worth preserving, then that would be an effective way of making Salem actually compelling.

There's already some hints that while Grimm are dangerous and inherently opposed to humanity, they if not initially sentient they gain intelligence as they age. So if that intelligence also leads to some kind of empathy and care-giving then mature Grimm are constantly seeing children of their kind slaughtered by humanity. It's a stretch but if Salem's motivations aren't purely spite then there has to be a reason that she's actively aiding the Grimm.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#29642: Feb 26th 2016 at 8:19:07 PM

[up] Well, I think it's fairly obvious from the pilot episode's narration that she's someone who did not start evil. Ozpin says "things you've long forgotten". That right there tells she was a "protagonist" who crossed the line a very long time ago.

It's probably Ozpin's fault that she started down the road but it's usually entirely the villain's fault if they actually cross the line and don't come back. The complaint from the songs seems to be about Ozpin building up hope in people that then gets utterly crushed, so I'd say that Salem had that hope raised in her and then had it horribly dashed, crossed the Despair Event Horizon and decided to visit her pain on the world to get back at Ozpin.

If it's even vaguely like this, that will not make her sympathetic. At best, it'll be a story that tells us why Ozpin isn't a morally upstanding fellow and is probably The Atoner, but I have noticed that people in a lot of fandoms cannot separate "tragic back story" with "sympathetic villain".

A villain can have a tragic back story and be utterly irredeemable in the current story line, and there's nothing wrong with having a villain you can empathise with - at their pre-villainous stage - but still consider them unforgivable once they've crossed that line.

The chances are, however, that we're going to find out she was once a good person, that an argument will be made that Ozpin created what she now is (and that Ozpin will probably agree), but that the truth is that she's entire responsible for the evil she causes even though Ozpin made a terrible past mistake that started her on the path to what she now is.

edited 26th Feb '16 8:22:07 PM by Wyldchyld

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#29643: Feb 26th 2016 at 8:20:01 PM

[up][up]except that dosent make any sense, humanity is the one córner around by the grimm, they dont need to be sympathic because they have the edge around.

edited 26th Feb '16 8:20:30 PM by unknowing

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Philcoulson I do not think of myself as a king I think of my from From shadows Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#29644: Feb 26th 2016 at 10:02:36 PM
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tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#29645: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:58:55 PM

[up]dude, use the fanfic thread for this. Or better yet, actually write a fanfic of your ideas and post it tongue

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#29646: Feb 27th 2016 at 3:51:34 AM

The Grimm being Salem's Semblence is actually a really cool idea.

Philcoulson I do not think of myself as a king I think of my from From shadows Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#29647: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:33:57 AM
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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#29648: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:34:37 AM

Phil, use the fucking fanfic thread.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#29649: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:38:37 AM

Continuing on:

The big reveal of vol. 8 would be that Jaune is revealed to have 10 siblings. (Meaning he is Taiyang's illegitimate son)

Her 7 sisters, Yang and Ruby. But wait! Who can be the 10th sibling?

It is none other than Juane Arcos, the Mexican long lost twin brother of Jaune. (Yeah, he is a Twin Brother in my AU)

edited 27th Feb '16 8:39:14 AM by fasoman1996

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Philcoulson I do not think of myself as a king I think of my from From shadows Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#29650: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:43:10 AM

wild mass guessJuan is working for Lopez 3.0 who is the true big bad wild mass guess

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