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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#28276: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:36:51 PM

They could do the Deathly Hollows thing and kill fucking everybody offscreen.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#28278: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:38:06 PM

And once again, piss off the fans super hard. [lol]

Seriously, Deathly Hallows pissed off soooooooooo many of my friends and people I spoke to.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#28279: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:38:12 PM

[up][up][up] Ugh I hope not.

[up][up][up][up] That would honestly be disappointing; there needs to be stakes, and unlike Firefly, there's a much larger peripheral cast around.

edited 17th Feb '16 6:41:01 PM by CaptainCapsase

AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#28280: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:42:46 PM

Deathly Hallows is one thing because...well that was the last story. You aren't gonna be missing the characters because the story is over.

Like with Firefly. They killed off my favorite character and I wouldn't have wanted more without him, but it didn't matter because that was the finale and they knew it.

RWBY though is seemingly just getting started based on the comments of how they have years more of stuff planned, so it might be a bit too early to start killing characters and drastically changing the setting.

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#28281: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:43:00 PM

If that actually happens, then personally I think it'd make it even worse. If Pyrrha is literally the only good guy to die (because, let's face it, Penny's definitely getting rebuilt), it just makes her Stupid Sacrifice all the more pointless and will make it crystal clear that it was done purely for shock value rather than any real point.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#28282: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:44:33 PM

[up] Would you prefer it to secondary characters dropping left and right? (ie my idea for CFVY being subjected to a Total Party Kill midseason?)

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#28284: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:46:09 PM

Actually, Pyrrha being the only death because of her Stupid Sacrifice makes sense because her Fatal Flaw is her heroic selflessness. Her being the only death is perfect because it would reinforce the idea that trying to fight the villain one-on-one can end horribly.

[up][up]Slow down there George R.R. Martin

edited 17th Feb '16 6:47:07 PM by BlackSunNocturne

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#28285: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:48:36 PM

[up] That's not even the most evil idea I can come up with.

edited 17th Feb '16 6:50:58 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#28286: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:49:35 PM

Please let there be a raptor grimm

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#28287: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:50:02 PM

Not really. Before this, if say Yang gets confronted by Cinder and is about to get a killing blow, you'd think "Meh nobody dies, someone will save her." Now though you won't be sure.

That's usually how death goes in a series like this. Just one or two, to show characters can die, so you won't be so certain everyone will always be ok from now on. But at the same time, you can't constantly kill characters or else you won't have a main cast. RWBY is mainly an action and humor show, despite the seriousness of the last few episodes, and you need a regular cast for that.

You also can't get too predictable. If another of JNR die then people will think they just exist to die so RWBY doesn't have to, and will expect the rest of them to die, and won't think much of them from then on.

So I think RWBY and JNR are in the clear for the rest of the show.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#28288: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:50:34 PM

[up][up][up]I'd like to point out that everything you're suggesting WOULD send RWBY into Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy faster than you can say "FNDM revolt"

edited 17th Feb '16 6:50:46 PM by BlackSunNocturne

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#28289: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:51:32 PM

Yeah, but it would still be fridging the most popular character in the series before she got any real development just so Monty could make a halfassed point about deconstructing Heroic Sacrifices, so again, that is REALLY not a good idea.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#28290: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:51:53 PM

[up][up] We're already in Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy territory for people who came expecting a sugary story about quasi-magical girls going to school to fight monsters. (ie SomeNewGuy)

What I've suggested isn't honestly uber dark; unpleasant yes, but it would build towards an eventual Earn Your Happy Ending for the survivors, a light at the end of the tunnel if you will. As popular as they are, characters like CFVY and SSSN are basically Mauve Shirts, which in a series that's character focused, can be used as a great source of tension when your main cast is too important to have a regular turnover rate.

edited 17th Feb '16 6:55:09 PM by CaptainCapsase

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#28291: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:54:10 PM

This is not even close to Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy; it's not grimdark enough (or even close to it) and there's too much hope left.

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#28292: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:54:30 PM

[up][up]Yeah, but if too many people die, it'll border on an Esoteric Happy Ending. Hell, its already in danger of that, considering so many people both in-show and out considered Pyrrha The Heart.

edited 17th Feb '16 6:54:49 PM by SomeNewGuy

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#28293: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:54:33 PM

We could bring up characters that were killed early but then were brought back later like Kamina from Gurren Lagann or Mami Tomoe in Madoka. Pyrrha isn't ENTIRELY dead until the series either ends or says otherwise.

Not matter how many times Word of God denies it, i would still have my theories on how certain characters can come back. Lying Creator exist for a reason

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#28294: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:55:49 PM

[up]Uhh.... Kamina never came back unless you count the movie with Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann being Word of God saying that was Kamina's spirit

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#28295: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:56:23 PM

[up][up] Well, in Madoka's case, time travel and alternate realities are involved, and while she's not dead, last I heard basically everyone was consigned to a Fate Worse than Death because Homura couldn't just accept the Bittersweet Ending the original series got.

edited 17th Feb '16 6:56:29 PM by CaptainCapsase

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#28296: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:56:23 PM

I don't think it's a healthy mindset to assume Lying Creator when their Word of God didn't match up with what you wanted.

WillDeRegio Since: Jan, 2015
#28297: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:57:20 PM

Ironically, despite being man-eating monsters, there has only been one onscreen death due to Grimm. And he was a bad guy. For a show with an screen death count of five, thats not good for a world full of those critters.

I now want a plush Grimm of some kind.

edited 17th Feb '16 6:57:46 PM by WillDeRegio

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#28298: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:57:43 PM

@SomeNewGuy: Esoteric for you perhaps, but that sort of ending is pretty much one of the textbook Bittersweet Endings; the heroes have prevailed, but at great cost and so on.

Anyway, I'm not in favor of killing off main cast members for a long time, and ultimately, I'd leave 5 or 6 of them (out of the original 8) standing by the end. That's by no means a Downer Ending, nor is it even that harsh of a Bittersweet Ending.

edited 17th Feb '16 6:59:56 PM by CaptainCapsase

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#28299: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:57:57 PM

[up][up][up][up]That is because Gen Urobuchi can't write a series with a happy ending to save his life. Also, Madoka's ending isn't really bittersweet when technically the entire main cast is dead or Ret-Gone.

Hell, even the Kamen Rider series he wrote for was the darkest one in Kamen Rider history.

Seriously, the man is synonymous amongst anime/VN/Light Novel fans for "suffering". Like, he actually requested to not be listed in Madoka's credits because people would realize what kind of series it is if they saw his name.

edited 17th Feb '16 7:01:45 PM by BlackSunNocturne

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#28300: Feb 17th 2016 at 7:01:02 PM

[up] In fairness, what happened with Madoka is more a case of Happy Ending Override; the original ending didn't give a happy ending to the characters, but it did tremendously improve the Crapsack World.

edited 17th Feb '16 7:02:57 PM by CaptainCapsase


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