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MrMaestro Absent-Minded Professor from Kingdom Come Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#27651: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:30:09 PM

wild mass guessSalem is some sort of underworld deity, and Cinder is her sole worshiper.wild mass guess

You know, if all of Cinder's actions were done out of a misguided desire to please Salem, and then she ended up being betrayed and tossed aside by the one she regarded as her goddess, I would actually feel kind of sorry for her.

I'd like to be the first man on the moon.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#27652: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:30:36 PM

Honestly I'm really interested in what the villains are getting out of this plan. It seems like the Grimm invasions aren't just a byproduct of their plans but their actual goal if Salem's speech is to be believed.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#27653: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:34:20 PM

So, how would you people list the main RWBY cast in the Character Alignment chart?

RWBY Character Alignments?

Blake, Nora, Oobleck, Qrow, Ruby, Sun and Yang all strike me as Chaotic Good. Ironwood, Pyrrha, Weiss and Winter are Lawful Good. Jaune, Glynda, Neptune, Ozpin, Ren, Penny and Port are Neutral Good.

Additionally, all of the villains thus far are Neutral or Chaotic Evil.

edited 15th Feb '16 3:35:58 PM by BlackSunNocturne

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
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#27654: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:37:08 PM

[up][up] It seems the endgame is to engulf the world in a war so big that it drowns the mankind in Grimm. Why exactly is to be seen, but it might be that Salem is doing this out of spite for Ozpin.

@On Cinder: ...think that would be enough, yeah. Of course, assuming that Cinder really is enamored in Salem.

edited 15th Feb '16 3:38:40 PM by FergardStratoavis

MrMaestro Absent-Minded Professor from Kingdom Come Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#27655: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:37:41 PM

This is kind of a stretch, I can sort of imagine Adam as Lawful Evil. We haven't really seen the way he runs the White Fang, but I have to think he keeps the organization internally orderly, at least.

edited 15th Feb '16 3:39:44 PM by MrMaestro

I'd like to be the first man on the moon.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#27656: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:38:08 PM

I could see Yang going Chaotic Neutral the next few volumes. I'm not sure but Raven might be either that or True Neutral.

[up] Lawful Evil on the heroes view, even though his last stunt would make everyone think he is Chaotic Evil

edited 15th Feb '16 3:39:03 PM by fasoman1996

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#27658: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:39:21 PM

[up][up][up]Violent, abusive, racist.... No. Maybe Knight Templar thinking he's Lawful Good, but he's firmly in the evil territory.

Also, you can be Neutral Evil leading a Lawful Evil organization. Just ask Sheev Palpatine

edited 15th Feb '16 3:40:07 PM by BlackSunNocturne

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#27659: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:39:50 PM

Lets see:

Mercury and Roman are Neutral evil(selfsh prick but no more than that) Emerald border on Chaotic neutral(typical for a thief) Cinder is pretty much in Chaotic evil or lawfull evil depending how devout she is of Mother grimm.

Qrow,Ironwood and Ozpin run the spectre of Chaotic,Lawfull and True neutral. Glynda.....I dont know.

For the girls: Ruby is Neutral good,Weiss is lawfull good and Blake chaotic good, Yang border on Chaotic neutral a times

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
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#27660: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:39:51 PM

@Adam: Lawful Good for his people, Lawful Evil for everybody else, Chaotic Evil for Blake.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#27661: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:40:02 PM

[up][up][up] Fairly certain (s)he meant Lawful Evil.

[up] This is the heart of the problem with character alignments; they really don't reflect the fact that morality is totally subjective; to one group a person might be a hero, to another a monster.

edited 15th Feb '16 3:40:51 PM by CaptainCapsase

MrMaestro Absent-Minded Professor from Kingdom Come Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#27662: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:41:00 PM

Yes, Lawful Evil is what I meant. My brain needs to start paying closer attention to what my fingers are typing.

I'd like to be the first man on the moon.
FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
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#27663: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:41:25 PM

Well yes, of course, but at the very least Adam is shown to treat men under him in high regard.

Like, if there was some WF mook under fire, chances are Adam would go get him if possible.

@Alignments: Yup, that's pretty much it. Well, at the very least the D&D alignment grid is enough for some barebones affiliation.

edited 15th Feb '16 3:42:29 PM by FergardStratoavis

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
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#27665: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:42:19 PM

Also there is a diferent between objectives and how you acomplish, Cinder could be lawfull evil in her devotion to Salem or chaotic evil in her desire to destroy the kindoms

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#27666: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:43:04 PM

[up][up][up]Wait, what gave you that impression? Adam butting in at the end of Volume 2 saying he'll keep the Cinder+White Fang partnership going in spite of all the White Fang who died from it already leads me to assume he ain't like that, anymore at least.

edited 15th Feb '16 3:44:01 PM by VutherA

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#27667: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:43:09 PM

[up][up]Hence, Neutral Evil. If you balance between Law and Chaos, you end up with Neutral.

This is the heart of the problem with character alignments; they really don't reflect the fact that morality is totally subjective; to one group a person might be a hero, to another a monster.
I'd like to point out that in Dungeons & Dragons & Pathfinder morality is objective, not subjective. There are actual beings made of their alignments, and alignment shifts can potentially fuck with people's powers (Paladins, Clerics, Monks, Antipaladins & Blackguards).

And seeing as how RWBY has the Grimm, which are Made of Evil.... Theoretically you can assume that RWBY would also follow the Objective morality system.

edited 15th Feb '16 3:47:33 PM by BlackSunNocturne

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#27668: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:43:52 PM

Cinder seems Lawful Evil on her objectives but Chaotic Evil in practice. Neutral Evil should be more or less her defining alignment

[up] [nja]

edited 15th Feb '16 3:44:25 PM by fasoman1996

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#27669: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:44:20 PM

Well there is the fact that he was prettymuch Bully to join Cinder for startestwild mass guesswhich is the reason he wasnt in the show until now, Cinder banish him to Off-screen land as punishmentwild mass guess

edited 15th Feb '16 3:44:53 PM by unknowing

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FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
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#27670: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:44:36 PM

[up][up][up][up] ...huh. Right, that was a thing.

...it occurs to me that we've yet to meet other leaders of WF. Perhaps one in Mistral now and one in Atlas?

edited 15th Feb '16 3:45:02 PM by FergardStratoavis

MrMaestro Absent-Minded Professor from Kingdom Come Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#27671: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:45:45 PM

One almost gets the impression WF is just a disorganized rabble if Adam's not around to keep an eye on them.

I'd like to be the first man on the moon.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#27672: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:46:26 PM

They are all faunus what do you expect?

You need someone to keep the animals calmed [lol][lol][lol]

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#27673: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:47:37 PM

I think we should stop this Character Alignment discussion before it gets out of hand.

edited 15th Feb '16 3:48:04 PM by Karxrida

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#27674: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:50:54 PM

[up][up][up]wild mass guessMaybe that explain why Adam values Blake so much, dosent it?wild mass guess

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#27675: Feb 15th 2016 at 3:51:03 PM

...I don't see anyone being uncivil.


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