I don't really think the show supports that interpretation. Jaune's insecurities and other small details like how his ancestor was in the great war and such, all Indicate his family is not mundane and has at least a decent amount of importance. If Jaune's family were just some regular humble family not different from himself, him feeling as he does and struggling with living up to the Arc name would be weird.
I also do not think the Arcs had anything to do with Tyrian, His backstory profile lists a huntsman named F. Pickerel' who warned them how Tyrian was not to be underestimated and such, which indicates that was the Huntsman who Tyrian had a history with and helped with catching him.
Bow to the PrototypeGiven Raven and Yang's strained relationship throughout RWBY, I've been thinking: were there times that Yang should have listened to her mother?
Edited by gjjones on Mar 19th 2022 at 8:46:34 AM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.![]()
Importance to Jaune in volume 1 and never brought up again by Jaune or anyone not named Tyrian.
Listen you can have an entire family of war heroes and no one in the general public or in the military knowing who they were unless they got the highest honors or we're some famous general.
Jaune's great great grandfather could have done great things that his family remembered him for but the world forgot about. It happens a lot.
The Arcs aren't like the Belmonts famous and infamous for being the best monster hunters that went into hiding.
They're just a family of huntsmen that the world at large ignores because they haven't done anything extraordinary or the world forgot about.
Because remember in all the times the great war is brought up Jaune's ancestor is never mentioned sans by Jaune himself. Even in WOR only Oz's previous life as the Great King is mentioned, using the sword of destruction to end it
I mention Tyrian because he's the only character that shows any interest in Jaune's family crest. And he explicit mentions it has nothing to do with Salem.
Salem has met Jaune and treated him with as a non issue like Ren. Only caring about Yang to taunt her about killing Summer.
Ozpin has never mentioned working with any of Jaune's ancestors. Even in his flashback via Jinn of all the important part of his life Jaune's family is never brought up but the first silver eyed warriors are as the inventor's kids.
Edited by FKJ10 on Mar 19th 2022 at 7:40:07 AM
I was not talking about Fame, I was talking about them not being a normal mundane family as you seem to keep saying they must be
"They're just a family of huntsmen that the world at large ignores because they haven't done anything extraordinary or the world forgot about."
I kind of feel like your making hard assumptions based on a lack of details, all we know about Jaune's family aside from his multiple siblings is how They were this line of great warriors and Jaune felt insecure about living up to them. The extent of this has yet to be revealed, the vagueness on his family is reason to speculate things about them instead of making hard assumptions there is nothing special about them.
Edited by Snoketrope on Mar 20th 2022 at 4:26:41 AM
Bow to the PrototypeI say mundane family because despite living with 8 eccentric sisters, Jaune lived a completely mundane life isolated from his dad's career.
He didn't even know any celebrity sport stars like Pyrrha despite buying her cereal.
It's obvious Jaune's dad kept his home and work life separate.
The idea of the Arc family being plot relevant this late into the game doesn't make any sense because:
1. We've been through 3 of the 4 major kingdoms and Jaune's ancestors have never been brought up.
2. We've gotten the big bad's full backstory and even fought her. Yet she has no interest in Jaune.
3. Not even Jaune brings up his family's heroics when talking about them after V1. But rather the family vacations he went on with his sisters and how they gave him pig tails.
By V8 Jaune has gotten over his insecurities that mentioning his V1 actions brought on by his family lineage has him shrug it off then telling Ren to focus on the bigger picture.
The window to make the Arcs this plot relevant Huntsman family has long since passed.
You do seem to be making assumptions and then treating them as if they're facts. For example, eight eccentric sisters? We've only met one, and there was nothing eccentric about her. Jaune's family isn't mentioned in Jinn's vision? Why would they be? Jinn was given a specific question to answer and focussed solely on how Ozma and Salem's cycle of pain began. Even then, there are knowledge gaps in what she covers, and she stops the story cold at the moment Ozma is told he can't destroy Salem. So, she has told us absolutely nothing about anything that's happened since. The Jaune theory only covers the recent past. There's absolutely no reason to expect Jinn to mention him, especially when Team JNPR isn't even present.
I don't particularly care if people like or dislike my theory; I'm not trying to convert anyone to my of thinking. I have no problem discussing the details and the strengths and weakness, but what I do try and keep clear in my head is what comes from the show, what I'm speculating, and what I'm assuming.
Well, that depends on what you mean by "plot relevant". You keep coming back to this in your posts; I'm wondering if you've made assumptions about the plot role I think this Jaune theory would have because my theory has less wider plot relevance than the emphasis your posts give it. The theory is mostly about Jaune, not the plot as a whole. The biggest plot relevance I can see:
- A continuation of the opposing parallels with Gill from Before the Dawn (she and her brother were trying to reclaim their royal status, something I would expect Jaune to not want to do). That, however, depends on how much the events will factor into the Vacuo Arc (not likely to be a huge amount), and is mostly only personal relevance anyway.
- If Jaune ever happens to be the one who activates the Relic of Destruction (I can imagine the Vacuan leadership being a bit nervous of a descendent of the King of Vale picking it up, given what the King of Vale did) — that would be a Vacuo-specific plot relevance, and it's a big "if" anyway.
On the subject of Vacuo, regarding whether the time has passed, it hasn't. The theory is tied to the King of Vale, who has been set up for a future that has yet to happen: and the set up for the King of Vale is Vacuo (the still-continuing fallout from how he ended the Great War) and Beacon (specifically, the Relic of Choice, which he is implied to have used in Vacuo, along with the Relic of Destruction). We're only just reaching the Vacuo part of the storyline, and the Vale Arc is likely to occur after the Vacuo Arc, as the seat of the final conflict. The Vacuo Arc isn't even likely to start until Volume 10 because we know the writers regard Volume 9 as part of the Atlas Arc, even though some of the characters have reached Vacuo.
The King of Vale connection to Vacuo and the Relic of Choice means it doesn't really make sense to explore him until we're dealing with the Vacuo Arc and/or the Vale Arc. The Beacon Arc was only an introduction, a prelude; the King of Vale doesn't become an active plot element until after the heroes begin learning about Remnant's secret history — starting with Volume 4, which is when the writers said the main story starts properly. And we still don't even know what Ozpin did to the Relic of Choice, or what the connection is between what he did in his V3 fight and what Oscar did in V8.
The writers have been more than willing to set things up in earlier volumes that will take years to come to fruition. One example is the V2 reference to people putting Dust into their bodies, something the writers deliberately mentioned because they knew that would be Hazel's thing — something they don't reveal until the end of Volume 5, three years after they mention it. They planned for a looking-glass arc before the pilot episode had even aired, but it's taken them eight years to get to a place where they feel they can explore it.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Mar 20th 2022 at 8:31:38 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.Also is not like this show often try to be to subtle about it, we barely got any foreshowing about Ruby having a super specialy power against grimm in volume 1 that play up 2 volume later, and it took nearly 8 damn volumes to finally see Cinder past(in what can be sum up as too little, too late for some).
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I don't think the pacing is as much of a problem as people often say. When it's watched in bulk it flows very well, including Volume 5.
If you asked me what the single biggest issue with RWBY is, I'd saying it's the same problem that commonly crops up in detective and crime fiction.
The writers have stated many times over the years that they're always thinking about how easy or hard it is for fans to figure out things before they want fans to figure things out, and that the problem with a weekly format is that the Internet has plenty of time to discuss and theorise and work things out. This makes them very cagey about anything they consider a "spoiler", makes them over-cautious, I think, about how frequently or visibly they insert set-up and foreshadowing, and it has an impact on how they tell the story.
I tend to think they worry about this too much, and it's a common trap creators of detective and crime fiction fall into. How do you balance dropping clues with the audience figuring it out too soon? Many creators handle it by never allowing the audience to have all the information, so the detective can do the brilliant reveal at the end and catch out the reader as well as the in-universe characters. Some people like that method, and some people don't, but it's a common method. For those who want to insert clues, and don't want to withhold information from the audience, the headache becomes balancing subtlety and frequency — how to get the clues into the work without it being too obvious for the audience. It's a very difficult balance to get right; it can take years — entire career lifetimes — for authors to figure out that balance, and it's rare for any creators to get it right all the time, even in the same work. With each set up, a creator can lean too far in one direction or the other, the set up can be too obvious or too cryptic/vague.
So, whenever I hear CRWBY discussing this, I'm instantly transported into the interviews of detective/crime fiction creators because CRWBY are wrestling with the same issue, the same balance, and they fall into the same traps. It is possible to worry too much about this, and that's something experienced detective/crime authors have often discussed. You forget that part of the process of entertaining fans is giving them this chance to figure it out before the main characters do, and that creators often run the risk of feeling like they've failed when this happens (CRWBY certainly act like they've failed if fans figure it out too soon).
That's the biggest trap: turning the ability of the audience to figure things out in advance into an enemy can make things less enjoyable for both the creator and fans. By turning it into an asset the creator can work with, it becomes one more tool that a creator can use to enhance the storytelling experience — you can play with that, grant concessions here to hide a more important thing you want to keep hidden over there, for example. CRWBY actually did this with the Spring Maiden reveal, and it worked very well. They allowed the fans to "figure out" that Vernal was the Spring Maiden, while still dropping clues that she was a red herring. Yes, some fans figured it out — but most of the fans who figured it out weren't unhappy they did, they were delighted, it was a badge of pride and excitement. And that's a thing creators often miss: they feel like they've failed, but it can actually enhance the audience's experience to sometimes get that "win".
Disclaimer: I'm not talking about works that are so formulaic that there's very little to "guess" about because the formula being used is so obvious. I do think that creators can fall into the trap of thinking that just because some people have figured things out they've failed to avoid being formulaic or obvious; that's often not the case.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Mar 22nd 2022 at 10:36:52 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.I think Ruby and Yang both fit in Gryffindor. And they both more or less stay there though they become less Boisterous Bruiser.
Weiss could be either Slytherin or Ravenclaw at first, though she'd eventually move past some of the Slytherin qualities.
Blake would fit into Ravenclaw at first, but her Character Development over the series would have her fit in with Hufflepuff too.
Edited by M84 on Mar 23rd 2022 at 1:43:19 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedTeam RWBY Project is an anime made by studio SHAFT called RWBY: Ice Queendom
Director: Toshimasa Suzuki
Animation Concept: Gen Urobuchi
Series Composition, Script: Tow Ubukata
Character Design: huke
Animation Production: Shaft
Ice Queendom(or as known in Japan, 氷雪帝国, Hyōsetsu Teikoku, "Empire of Ice and Snow"), huh?
I assure you, I'm perfectly trustable personOooohhhh, penny drops.
I really couldn't figure out the name. I couldn't understand why it was named after Weiss and appeared in such a clunky manner. Now I get it. It's just called "Ice Kingdom", but they wanted to use "queen" instead of "king".
It sounds like the setting is going to be focussed on the Kingdom of Atlas, and therefore is doing a play of words on Weiss's nickname.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Mar 24th 2022 at 11:00:37 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.Yeah, but I haven't been following this and I completely forgot about that poster.
So, what's the theory about this work? Is it just Team RWBY while in Atlas, or is it an AU where Team RWBY went to Atlas Academy and was led by Weiss? Does anyone know anything?
Random thought, if the team was led by Weiss, what would the name be? I'm Welsh, so my instinct is to go WBRY (Wimberry, colour = purple or blue), but the most setting-appropriate (and the most Weiss-appropriate) name I can think of is WBRY (Winterberry).
Edited by Wyldchyld on Mar 24th 2022 at 11:50:08 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.

The men in Jaune's family.
Jaune's dad isn't some famous Huntsmen in universe like Qrow or Maria. Nor is Jaune's family name known or held in high regard like the Schnee.
Hence why Jaune's dad can't be anything but a humble huntsmen either by choice or his own abilities.
The only person that recognizes his family crest is a long thought to be dead serial killer and it comes off as a personal vendetta.