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This thread is for questions regarding creating or cutting pages in Franchise/ namespace and Franchise Index.

As a reminder, being a Series Franchise doesn't mean a Work can have a Franchise/ page. For that it needs existing (not Red Link) and connected (official releases for the same trademark) Work pages in 3 different Mediums, not 3 pages for the same property in general.

If it doesn't meet those criteria, the section about related releases can be on page of the first installment.

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Now, I don't know about you, but we don't seem to have that many Franchise pages.

For instance, Video Games. Take a look at this page. I guarantee that we don't even have that many listed in the Franchise namespace.

Also, I set up Franchise pages for Duke Nukem, Deer Hunter, and Grand Theft Auto.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to list multiple games in a Franchise page as opposed to a Video Game page?

Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 11th 2023 at 2:10:03 PM

universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#76: Aug 23rd 2013 at 9:32:57 PM

I'm wondering if could create a Franchise/Madoka Magica page. We have pages for the anime, two of the manga spin-offs, and a Licensed Game. There is going to be an anime film which will probably get it's own page (because I want to make one), but I'm not sure whether that would count as Anime or Film. There are also more manga spin-offs that will begin later this year, and they might get their own pages too. I think the Rule of Three applies, but please let me know if there are any objections.

edited 23rd Aug '13 9:33:31 PM by universalperson

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#77: Aug 24th 2013 at 1:36:16 AM

Aye, under the "three or more media with pages on them" criteria, Puella Magi Madoka Magica deserves a Franchise/ page.

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universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#78: Aug 24th 2013 at 8:06:49 AM

[up]Thanks, I wasn't sure if Anime and Manga could be counted separately.

edited 24th Aug '13 8:07:12 AM by universalperson

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#79: Aug 24th 2013 at 8:20:23 AM

I actually counted the other media mentioned in that article - a comic, a magazine, a game - in addition to the original medium.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#80: Aug 25th 2013 at 1:51:46 PM

Five minutes of using the search function, and reading the first and last two pages of this thread hasn't given me an answer. That's when I think information is officially obscure.

Where is the Franchise page defined? We have Anime, Literature, Film... where is the Franchise page?

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videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#81: Aug 25th 2013 at 2:43:49 PM

[up] A Franchise/ page is used for any series that has branched out into at least 3 media. For example, there are Star Wars films, video games, and comic books, or there are Sonic The Hedgehog video games, cartoons, and anime.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#82: Aug 25th 2013 at 4:26:58 PM

Where is the page informing anyone of that? Shouldn't we have a page that defines it? Where was it put?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#83: Aug 26th 2013 at 12:18:55 AM

It's only in the forums so far - the three media with pages rule ought to be added to Namespace.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#84: Aug 26th 2013 at 4:59:12 AM

Added to the Franchise/ bullet.

EDIT: I just realized what's posted here may not exactly mean "three namespaces". If this still were the case, things like the CSI-verse, Super Sentai and others like this would be an exception as they would involve several series within the universe although technically only being represented by one or two namespaces (typically Series/ and Film/)

edited 26th Aug '13 5:04:27 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#85: Aug 26th 2013 at 6:08:22 AM

Because those are defined as a Series Franchise on this wiki.

edited 26th Aug '13 6:09:19 AM by crazysamaritan

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#86: Aug 28th 2013 at 8:34:22 PM

I feel that VideoGame.Portal should be the page for the Portal series. The series lacks a single page that ties everything together. This makes it difficult to refer to Portal as a series or to list tropes that are common among the series, since it will link to the first game, excluding Portal 2.

In contrast, VideoGame.Half Life refers to the Half-Life series, and VideoGame.Half-Life 1 refers to the first game in the series, despite being called Half-Life. The current page for VideoGame.Portal should be moved to VideoGame.Portal 1, and VideoGame.Portal should be used for the entire series.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#87: Aug 29th 2013 at 8:14:17 PM

Or perhaps Portal and Half-Life should go in Franchise/. That would clear up confusion between Franshise.Half Life and VideoGame.Half Life 1/ Same goes for Portal.

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Lightflame Stick of the Fallen from where you can't find me Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
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#88: Sep 12th 2013 at 7:14:16 AM

Can I make a franchise page for Warrior Cats? There are books, OEL manga (so basically just comic books), plays, and a tabletop game.

"Oh great! Let's pile up all the useless cats and hope a tree falls on them!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#89: Sep 12th 2013 at 7:17:26 AM

There are enough different media with pages on this wiki that I can say, "go ahead".

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Kayube Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#90: Sep 12th 2013 at 9:18:31 PM

I'm working on turning the Ace Attorney page into a franchise page, since it pretty much already is. I'm thinking I should split the tropes between the Visual Novel and Franchise pages, but I might need some help with what should go where. For now, I've rearranged the description on the Visual Novel page to be more organized between games, other media, and fan works- that description will probably end up on the Franchise page, while the Visual Novel page should probably be more about the gameplay and overarching story elements of the games in the series.

Edit: I've now created the franchise page, which currently is just a duplicate of the Visual Novel page with all the tropes that I thought were too game-specific cut out. I'm going to bed though, so I don't have time to go through the Visual Novel page and do the opposite with that.

edited 12th Sep '13 10:34:51 PM by Kayube

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#91: Sep 13th 2013 at 12:43:52 AM

I've shifted the Main/ redirect and indexed that new page.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#92: Sep 17th 2013 at 4:01:28 PM

So, any thoughts on creating a page for the Portal series?

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#93: Sep 18th 2013 at 8:13:05 AM

Moving the first game to VideoGame.Portal1? That could work out. Still wouldn't put Franchise/ for this or Half-Life, given that each is officially represented by two games (expansions not included; they tend to lump with the games themselves). Also wouldn't really lump each other, as while both Portal and Half-Life acknowledge each other's existence (Black Mesa vs. Aperture; and Alt!Cave Johnson preventing a resonance cascade in Alt!Black Mesa) and effectively take place in the same universe, they both still play like different worlds altogether.

edited 18th Sep '13 8:19:23 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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Arutema Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#94: Sep 20th 2013 at 2:43:50 AM

This is probably a formality at this point, but Blaz Blue should probably get a Franchise page. BlazBlue: Alter Memory has its own page, but the No Export for You novels, Drama CD and Manga are currently being lumped into BlazBlue, which is getting rather untidy.

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#95: Sep 22nd 2013 at 10:32:04 PM

I agree that there should be Portal and Portal1, but my only concern is that they will have the same exact custom titles, like Half-Life (series) and Half-Life (game). It is a bit confusing when the titles are the same, which is the only reason why I suggest the /Franchise namespace for both series. This is unrelated to the fact that they share the same universe.

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m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#96: Oct 3rd 2013 at 2:51:30 AM

Can we move VideoGame.Medabots to Franchise/? It have enough medias(game, manga, anime) and it's pretty much a franchise page already.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#97: Oct 3rd 2013 at 3:18:46 AM

The fact that these other media don't seem to have pages makes me think of "no". In practice, we usually require at least 3 pages about different media.

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videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#98: Oct 3rd 2013 at 11:25:23 PM

[up] Franchise.Metroid only has pages for the video games...

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#99: Oct 3rd 2013 at 11:48:01 PM

Apart from the fact that Metroid actually links to the pages in question, I want to hear more about whether that is correct either. In my experience, Franchise/ has from the get-go been more about multimedia.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#100: Oct 17th 2013 at 11:01:53 PM

Captain Sabertooth: Is that qualified as a franchise page?

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