My only problem with the title is that Evil Bondage might not indicate that it's specifically about it being portrayed as wrong. Whatever the title was, it would have to be clearly outlined that having villain with a BDSM theme, or a morally questionable character who practices or appears to practice BDSM, doesn't count as an automatic attack on the entire thing.
edited 18th May '13 12:31:21 PM by abloke
Isn't "Bad Guy Likes Bondage," as the crowner has it, already covered by Good People Have Good Sex? And I have no idea how broadly "Bondage Themed Baddie" is supposed to be defined.
edited 20th May '13 5:55:27 AM by Prfnoff
"Bad Guys Like Bondage" could fit in Good People Have Good Sex, unless the bondage is shown to be more like Brains and Bondage (that is, a smart and good thing).
Bondage-Themed Baddies would probably fit into something like the following list. Just remember that it's a costume motif first and foremost—as far as I can tell from this entire thread. I listed personality stereotypes as optional to reflect that.
- Regardless of gender:
- Be a villain or otherwise be an antagonist
- Dressed in leather, rubber, or latex
- Weapon Of Choice being either a whip, flogger, violet wand thing, or some other BDSM toy
- Female Bondage-Themed Baddies:
- Fit the genderless requirement above
- Optional:
- Be a stereotypical Dominatrix (This would be considered the Dom role in a BDSM couple, obviously)
- They might instead fit the inverse stereotype of the Dominatrix, which I cannot find the trope for. (This would be considered the sub role in a BDSM couple)
- Male Bondage-Themed Baddies:
- Fit the genderless requirement above
- Optional:
- Be a stereotypical Manly Gay (regardless of their orientation) (This would be considered the Dom role in a BDSM couple)
- They might instead fit the stereotypical Camp Gay or Camp Straight (This would be considered the sub role in a BDSM couple)
edited 20th May '13 10:31:03 AM by DunDun
BDSM Is Evil and Bondage Themed Baddie are in the lead at +6 at 8 for and 2 against. Do we call the crowner now?
edited 7th Jun '13 2:39:27 PM by DunDun
Bump.
Why is it chosen as BDSM Is Evil, not Bondage Is Evil or something? Again, for the trope "BDSM is portrayed as bad", I think the current title could be kept for that one.
I think it's probably a good time to close it.
We'd need to go through the examples that are on Bondage Is Bad, and work out which ones meet the requirements of one of the new tropes and which are neither, for sorting onto the new pages. Does anyone else have any name suggestions?
Crown Description:
Bondage Is Bad has no strict guidelines on what it covers, and presently includes examples based on costumes, dialogue, the perceived attitudes of the authors, and other things. It is also being used as a platform for attacking works deemed to portray it in an unacceptable way. Three tropes have been suggested; these names are not final.- BDSM Is Evil: The practice itself is actively (read: not just if you look at it a certain way) portrayed as base and immoral.
- Bad Guy Likes Bondage: A villain is shown to have an interest in BDSM.
- Bondage Themed Baddie: A villain has a BDSM theme or motif.

I mostly suggest redefining because it's easier to do than a split.
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