I wouldn't mind this so much if the devs were presenting themselves as anything else but completely incompetent. I'd accept some sort of a reboot if they had something they wanted to say with the Thief franchise or has a distinctive vision to supplant it. A side-step, if you will. Metroid or Prince Of Persia style. But they've got nothing they're trying to do.
They're being more tactful than 'Ninja Theory' was with Devil May Cry, but at least 'Ninja Theory' had something to say. This is just Thief denatured.
Edit: A frankly beautiful post from Something Awful
that I just had to share.
I like that in Thief, at least this fantasy isn't entirely present, or is to some degree subverted. The "pagans" are not the good guys, as they would be in the worst kind of postmodern fashion: they are holistic and "in touch with nature" but this amounts to brutality and barbarism. Karras and the mechanists are a kind of futurists or fascists, drawing the (correct) conclusion that if all the world is to be mediated by technology and capital, mankind itself should disappear (Karras of course excludes himself from this conclusion): the "builder's paradise" is like those concept drawings of Fascist buildings with no people present in them. If Fascism is the index of a failed revolution, then we may assume that the Mechanists are a response to the City's failure to provide social justice to its poor, and, correctly, the Fascist Mechanists are revealed to be bed partners to the law and vested interests at the expense of the poor.
Garrett is a kind of fantasy of an unalienated precarian, which is a basically correct insight: the only way to avoid alienation of one's production today, and tumbling from one job into another fruitlessly, is by breaking the law and stealing one's share. The only problem is that it elevates this response to the solution itself. There is no change in the order of things, Garrett only prevents them from getting worse, even though he himself realizes that his own cynicism is itself at times untenable, this doesn't really lead to any kind of change.
So you could say that this new game will introduce a new layer of alienation: you are not even allowed to directly produce in your fantasies anymore (meaning you cannot simply steal things according to your own judgment even in a videogame) but rather the game will offer you your share of the loot, like a boss in a corporate office, whenever and only if it sees fit, guiding your actions along the way. This is, I think, why this kind of game really pisses people off.
edited 26th Jun '13 11:11:32 AM by Nicknacks
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Sigh. Its a nicely biting analysis, but I just can't take seriously someone who acts like revolutionary Marxism is something actually *different* from Fascism, as opposed to the same building with a different coat of paint.
Well, I suppose its useful to distinguish between Marxist economic/historical theory, versus the actual doctrine of communist revolution. Granted, the former are largely just as much voodoo as the latter.
Home of CBR Rumbles-in-Exile: rumbles.fr.yuku.comThe world is reactionary, then, because real life does not follow ladders of progression. Its branches. :p
Home of CBR Rumbles-in-Exile: rumbles.fr.yuku.comEdit: Just saw the spoiler post.
I get the feeling that a great deal of posters over there are your kind of people, SS. I don't post there very much, but I'm ramping up to it. Thinking about doing a DA 2 LP for a while now. You should join if you've got a chance, when you're got a chance. :)
edited 28th Jun '13 4:13:22 AM by Nicknacks
This post has been powered by avenging fury and a balanced diet.http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/youqe3/thief-gc-2013--uprising-trailer
Okay, seriously. Are they even pretending to not rip off Dishonored?
Home of CBR Rumbles-in-Exile: rumbles.fr.yuku.comI liked some of what I saw in that, I believe, but the City feels a little... generic, and Garrett just doesn't feel like the Garrett that I'm familiar with; in particular, he seems a little more eager to become involved with a cause (well, a cause other than filling his own pockets) than I'd expect of Garrett: I seem to recall that one of the things that I liked about the character in the previous games was that he really wasn't interested in taking part in Keeper prophecies and machinations, but kept ending up drawn into saving the world anyway.
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I probably should go back and finish Thief 3, but I lost patience with the hostile hub when they unleashed Keeper assassins into it.
Home of CBR Rumbles-in-Exile: rumbles.fr.yuku.comNew trailer. Sort of reminds me of Dishonored. Dark, decaying city being ravaged by plague amongst the poor that the nobility seems to be ignoring.
Ever since Dm C Devil May Cry I'e basically thought a lot more of the over-reacters.
Especially the claims of gameplay missing the point of the original games.
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edited 26th Jun '13 10:47:23 AM by Thorn14