Well you can't really call any of those a real death can you?
In all seriousness though, easily All-Star Superman. Easily the greatest sacrifice any hero could ever have to make. Death of Superman in contrast felt incredibly cheap, to me at least. Superman dying in a smackdown? Thats not really all that heroic.
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.Not really a "death" but I really liked his defeat by Batman at the end of The Dark Knight Returns. Espescially when you know he really doesn't want to be fighting for such a warhawk government but he's doing it to save the other supers from a similar fate. When he winks at Carrie Kelly at the end; that was what sold it for me.
I've just read All Star Superman, brilliant stuff. I now like about 50% of the Morrison stuff I've read, though I'm still stood on New X-Men being bad.
I've also recently thought that the Death of Superman story might have worked better if he'd lost his powers instead of died. The world could perhaps believe Superman dead, but either way you get Clark adjusting to life without the cape andthe various replacements trying to take the mantle.
Am I a good man or a bad man?I'd vote with All-Star Superman. I must say that I've always enjoyed "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow," though. I've met a lot of people who don't seem to understand Superman's reasoning for doing what he does at the end ("He violates his personal code because he has to, and so he extracts a price from himself; in his own mind, he commits a crime and then answers for it, because he feels it's the right thing to do. No, really.")
Who would you call your favourite B-List supervillain from the Man of Steel's rogue gallery? Personally I have to go with The Auctioneer. He's just an awesome, criminally under-used villain.
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.^^Action Comics is great. Grant Morrison's run is almost over (one last issue to go) and it's definitely a binging type series as it can be difficult to keep track of things if you're just reading it issue by issue.
But in a month or so from now the run will be over and it's definitely worth jumping in and reading all of it.
Superman as a young guy trying to attack corporate executive types and generally trying to find his role with his powers is great and Morrison did a great job with all the 5th dimension stuff. It can be a bit trippy but personally I think it's pretty easy to follow compared to Morrison's other stuff.
Double posting to ask a question.
I'm reading Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes where it's explained that The Sun becomes a Red Sun at some point in 3008. But if DC One Million is still canon then shouldn't superman be in that sun while slowly becoming Superman Prime?
Does this mean that Superman in the future is actually trapped in that red sun with no powers? Does this ever get mentioned?
Well in Kingdom Come, Superman absorbed enough yellow sun radiation to become immune to Kryptonite and shrug off a Nuclear explosion. I doubt it would've been too much trouble after a thousand years of the stuff and even then thats not taking into account just how quickly or not red sun radiation drains him.
Personally, it always made more sense to me that red sun radiation would work slowly.
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.Death of Superman is awful. The explanation for why Doomsday can kill Supes is a) He's more physically power and has better powers and b) He got the drop on Superman.
Both A and B sound whiny to me. Other heroes face sneak attacks and villains with better powers all the time. It doesn't kill them. Morrison ret-conned that the sun turned red during Doomsday, but this still doesn't seem like enough to me.
Oh, I agree. Doomsday was able to kill Superman 'cuz he had the writer on his side. It frequently does come off as lame when you have some villain you've never heard of able to do what no other villain has been able to do; it's a mark of bad and/or uninspired writing that the writer can't make you believe that the villain could be a serious threat. The Doomsday thing is the kind of situation where you sit around afterward thinking of ways Superman could have beaten him that the writer conveniently ignored. I always liked how the DCAU had the Justice Lords Superman deal with Doomsday; felt kind of like a "take that, you hack!" moment.
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I personally preferred how the novelizaqtion put it. That Doomsday simply had such massive endurance that Superman had to blow through years upon years of stored solar energy reserves to take down Doomsday, to the point most of his powers started to drop off in strength or outright begin to fail (like his bio-electric aura)
That was flat out said in latter comic book stories, too.
I thought it was kind of a cop-out, too, but I liked the Diabolus ex Nihilo aspect of it. I mean, in history, you have entities like the Mongols, who conquered most of Asia, but were repelled by the Japanese of all people.note
What I don't like is what they've done with Doomsday afterwards. He either should have stayed dead or, if you wanted to go with the "evolves after death" powers, he should have been a recurring force of nature.
The problem is that people started trying to get clever about that.
Whenever you have a character whose ability is to evolve to defeat other abilities, some wise-ass writer is eventually going to start getting metaphysical about it. Like, at one point, Doomsday developed intelligence, which meant he was able to feel fear. That actually made him physically less powerful.
And incredible stupid. If you knew you'd just come back from the dead and come back even tougher, what would you have to fear?? A very cheap character all round whose possible potential was never built upon.
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.Does anyone else finds it hilarious that Despair Of The Endless`S ploy to create one Kryptonian "to despair" just created a guy that inspires in people much more Hope that any Blue Lantern ever could?
"Please crush me with your heels Esdeath-sama!I don't understand why Doomsday was created in the first place. Superman has plenty of villains that can take him down theoretically. Why go through all the trouble to create somebody new and problematic? Would it have been so difficult to have the armies of Apokolips invade Earth, with Superman literally fighting off Darkseid to his dying breath? Darkseid has more depth and backstory than Doomsday—and he overall works far better for continuing stories.

I don't see any general discussion of Superman.
Which was the best Superman "death"? The Death Of Superman, What Ever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow, or All Star Superman?
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