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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#1: Feb 24th 2013 at 12:01:32 PM

I recently learned that the root cause of custom titles failing to propagate through to wicks is a bug triggered by using CamelCase in the custom title's namespace.

To that end, I have a modest proposal for the custom title form: add a note saying not to use CamelCase in the namespace, at least until the code guy (Fast Eddie?) figures out a fix.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#2: Feb 24th 2013 at 8:52:10 PM

A note to avoid standard quotation marks would be nice, too, assuming one doesn't exist already.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#3: Feb 24th 2013 at 11:12:50 PM

[up]That's one I'd rather see fixed! :)

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#4: Feb 25th 2013 at 6:51:42 AM

Yes please, implement the OP. I have "ruined" (?) tons of page titles that can now apparently never be custom titled (never again?) because I had no idea about this bug.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: Feb 25th 2013 at 6:55:04 AM

It is possible to fix them, but it takes admin intervention in each case.

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#6: Feb 25th 2013 at 7:05:06 AM

Which is why this should be prevented!

Also, I've asked about all of them on the screwed up custom titles thread, and as far as I can tell they weren't fixed/reverted/removed/whatever. So fixing this post-hoc is a pain and doesn't always happen.

edited 25th Feb '13 7:48:54 AM by ArcadesSabboth

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#7: Feb 25th 2013 at 8:12:05 AM

We need to get Eddie to fix the CamelCase namespace issue. All these workarounds are just a stopgap. We'll keep asking him about it.

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troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#8: Feb 25th 2013 at 7:08:19 PM

Stopgap couldn't hurt though. Can't imagine it'd be a lot of work to add an extra line of text to one page.

NoriMori from the far side of a Combine portal Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#9: Mar 10th 2013 at 11:44:44 AM

I second this request, hard.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10: Mar 10th 2013 at 12:04:17 PM

Preventative measures can at least stem the the problem, and possibly stop the addition of more glitched-out custom titles of this sort, until a solid curative measure can be implemented. So yes, another vote to the OP.

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videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#11: Mar 10th 2013 at 1:25:03 PM

This really needs to be implemented.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#12: Mar 10th 2013 at 1:40:02 PM

Yes, adding one line to the page should be easy. Presumably any mod could do it.

But only Fast Eddie can fix the glitch, and I think stuff like Overhauling Page Creation is more of a priority for his short time.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#13: Mar 10th 2013 at 3:20:22 PM

I don't know php, but I do know the language it's derived from, perl, and in perl, it should be a one-line fix once you've separated off the namespace, which is something the code presumably does anyway: "$namespace = ucfirst(lc($namespace))". That turns "VideoGame" (or "vIdEoGaMe" or anything else) into "Videogame".

edited 10th Mar '13 3:20:50 PM by Xtifr

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#14: Mar 10th 2013 at 3:24:33 PM

The point is that one line could have been added to that page in like five minutes, instead of us debating this for weeks.

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NoriMori from the far side of a Combine portal Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#15: Mar 15th 2013 at 9:14:24 AM

Okay, so how do we get the attention of someone who can add that line?

edited 15th Mar '13 9:22:07 AM by NoriMori

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Mar 15th 2013 at 9:22:35 AM

I am sure Fast Eddie is aware of this issue. I know he often doesn't announce the awareness, though.

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NoriMori from the far side of a Combine portal Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#17: Mar 15th 2013 at 9:24:13 AM

Any idea when the line might be added?

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#18: Mar 15th 2013 at 7:16:10 PM

Should we holler for his attention?

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#19: Mar 15th 2013 at 10:21:21 PM

It is more than one line, by a lot.

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NoriMori from the far side of a Combine portal Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#20: Mar 16th 2013 at 2:18:52 AM

[up]Er...adding that caveat to the "How This Works" folder should only be a line or two... I mean, I guess you could make it longer if you wanted to be wordy, but...

m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#21: Mar 16th 2013 at 2:35:59 AM

[up]I think Eddie was talking about lines of codes to fix the bug.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#22: Mar 16th 2013 at 3:09:09 AM

We weren't talking about the code, though. Just an addition to the "How This Works" folder.

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#23: Mar 16th 2013 at 6:35:01 AM

Yeah, we were only talking about a couple sentences saying "custom titles won't work if you put the namespace in camel case. if you did go to X thread to get it reverted." or whatever the bug is.

Just so people know and don't continue to trigger the bug.

The idea is something that can be done for now, without reprogramming the whole custom title widget.

edited 16th Mar '13 6:35:07 AM by ArcadesSabboth

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#24: Mar 18th 2013 at 10:50:04 AM

Xtifr was talking about adding a line of code, though.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#25: Mar 18th 2013 at 1:33:01 PM

Only in his last post; in his prior one, he was talking about the note.

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