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The fact they didn't list pricing at the conference pretty much spells out D-O-O-M (and not the shooter game)
I wouldn't be screaming "Doom" but it IS suspicious as hell. We'll have to wait and see. Maybe Sony doesn't know themselves.
I'm going to get behind the social networking thing as well. I like the idea of being able to instantly share videos. Instead of having to tell people about the fucking sweet thing you just pulled off, now they'll be able to see it.
That's what I'm thinking as well. Obviously, the console isn't completely done yet, so they're probably waiting to complete it before confirming a price. I'm taking a wait and see attitude until E3.
Sony knows first hand that making it overly expensive isn't going to work, especially since their brand name isn't what it was a decade ago. The fact that it isn't going to be backwards compatible and they're going for a more basic architecture makes me believe it'll be affordable.
Seeing as no company has ever gotten out of "junk" status, I don't have high hopes of them getting out of it.
I wonder how expensive PS 3 and PS 2 consoles will get when folks out there realize that having one of them is the only way that they can play games for those consoles, and that includes PSN games which used to work (EDIT ON) on the original consoles and/or as emulation on the PS 3 (EDIT OFF) and now won't on the new machine?
edited 21st Feb '13 9:45:14 AM by TamH70
Ouch. That's gonna hurt Sony a bit.
sony being in junk status is making think that should i go for the ps4 or just wait till xboxnext appear.
sorry i hit the post button to soon.
edited 21st Feb '13 9:42:23 AM by nadja
huh I'm sorry what
Personally, if you are going to buy a gen-5 console (which the next Xbox and PS are going to be, unless anyone who knows better can correct me?) buying either of them as soon as they come out will cost you far more than you need to think about paying for them.
Hang fire on the purchase for a bit and not only will the price come down, but software patches which will fix the inevitable teething troubles will come out, and the newer iterations of the console (next batches and so on) will have those fixes as standard.
I thought this was the 8th gen?
Considering the whole Cloud thing when it comes to backwards compatibility, Im honestly not too fused about it.
WELL I AM
We're in the eighth generation now.
I'm certainly not getting any of the console right out of the gate. I need to see some more games.
Oh thanks. Then the next generation will be nine. Isn't nine death in some cultures, like four is in some Far Eastern ones, particularly Japan?
Nine is divine.
XD You're misunderstanding. The Wii U, Vita and 3DS have been released. All of which are 8-gens. So we're living "Next gen" now. And it's the 8th.
edited 21st Feb '13 9:56:57 AM by ShirowShirow
I want my 8th gen flying car
Wait, so why are people so fussed about backwards compatibility? I assumed most people keep their old systems if they still worked anyhow.
If you didn't own a PS 3...
Euro dealers say the PS 4 will cost at least 400 GBP. Eep.
Oh right. I thought the Xbox 360 and the PS 3 were still this gen? Oops.
Around the same price that P S3s will get to on Ebay and Amazon when folks realise that that is the only way that their games library will work. Hope mine stays working.
On the social issue, well, the folks here are the only ones I really talk to on a regular basis and I already fouled that up earlier on so the social aspects of the console can go hang. It isn't for me.
edited 21st Feb '13 10:04:15 AM by TamH70
So Sony's strategy is to use social networking as the focal point of it's console, right? As a rule of thumb, the larger the social network, the stronger it is. If they price it high, as they might, there won't be many early adopters (it's generally better to wait for a year or two before buying a Console for more good gamesand a possible price drop). If there aren't many early adopters, that limits the number of people buying Drive Club (For example. I'm using it as it's the most "social" of the announced games). If Drive Club doesn't have many people playing it, will it have any value at all?
If the developers go for the social angle to the point where the game is only good when you have lots of other people playing the same game, and nobody buys the PS 4, it's going to be Vita all over again, where Sony need more PS 4 purchasers before third parties will spend their money on those ambitious games they have always wanted to do, but the potential purchasers are waiting for more games before they do so.
So Sony better have their devs making solid single-player experiences for this thing as well as the social ones they are using as a selling point, their console's life depends on it.
x16 that's the mistake i've done with the vita.
edited 21st Feb '13 10:03:19 AM by nadja
wait a sec why are people worried about backwards compatibility?
the PS 3 has no games
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