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dmysta3000 Big Smoky from New York and New Jersey Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Sorastitch Eden from Last Seen in The Shadowlands
Eden
Feb 20th 2013 at 4:26:54 PM

there's like 3 topics for this already

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dmysta3000 Big Smoky from New York and New Jersey Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Big Smoky
Feb 20th 2013 at 5:47:44 PM

Okay sooo

Did I miss anything?

edited 20th Feb '13 5:49:39 PM by dmysta3000

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Recon5 Avvie-free for life! from Southeast Asia
Avvie-free for life!
Feb 20th 2013 at 10:00:07 PM

Destiny and D3 ports being on both gens is a bit dicey. If players on old and future machines can expect identical experiences and even seamless interconnectivity (albeit with the former being in higher def) that raises the question of whether the devs are fully exploiting the new tech.

edited 20th Feb '13 10:00:26 PM by Recon5

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Feb 20th 2013 at 11:12:11 PM

Did that Deep Down trailer feature at end feature that Nintendo claims that Wii U has? That asking help from other users thing? .-. Weird

Anyhoo, yeah, doesn't really look much better than PS 3 graphics wise at least from quick look

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Feb 20th 2013 at 11:21:06 PM

Backwards compatability confirmed to NOT be happening at all. Digital download as well as physical discs will not be viable with the PS 4. Backwards compatability of a sort will be happening in the form of Gaikai streaming "eventually", but there's no news as to whether you'll have access to your old PSN content through it.

Ryuhza Alligator Season from San Diego, California
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Absolutely no relation to NLK
Feb 21st 2013 at 12:51:44 AM

>no backwards compatibility

Screw This, I'm Outta Here!

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Ryuhza Alligator Season from San Diego, California
Alligator Season
Feb 21st 2013 at 12:56:51 AM

It'll probably show up eventually in the form of Gaikai streaming, but with the PS 3's complicated hardware taken into account, it really should have been a Foregone Conclusion. Just hope the Gaikai band-aid doesn't take too long in arriving.

I'm not ditching my PS 3 yet, so I don't particularly mind.

edited 21st Feb '13 12:58:11 AM by Ryuhza

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
Feb 21st 2013 at 12:59:11 AM

What's Gaikai?

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Ryuhza Alligator Season from San Diego, California
Alligator Season
Feb 21st 2013 at 1:02:20 AM

Game streaming/cloud gaming for the PS 4 (and possibly other devices in the future). It's magic, according to what they said about it's capabilities during the meeting. But in regards to BC, they said that they hope to give PS 4 gamers access to the PS 1, 2, and 3's libraries, which was the best they could do for backwards compatibility.

How well it works is yet to be seen.

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Scardoll Burn
Burn
Feb 21st 2013 at 1:02:52 AM

>No backwards compatability

Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope

I'm getting the feeling that we're hitting a sort of graphics ceiling; while graphics can get better, it's not without expenses shooting through the roof.

edited 21st Feb '13 1:03:26 AM by Scardoll

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artfulscruff hopelessly optimistic from oop north
hopelessly optimistic
Feb 21st 2013 at 2:28:48 AM

I second that about the graphics ceiling. We're just not seeing the massive leaps forward like we did in previous generations. PS 4 games are undeniably pretty, but the improvements seem to be largely in the details.

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
Feb 21st 2013 at 2:31:19 AM

I'd say they're very pretty indeed. Killzone 4 looks really vibrant, in particular.

But I guess prettiness makes people wonder about costs - to themselves and developers.

edited 21st Feb '13 2:31:59 AM by edvedd

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fillerdude Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Feb 21st 2013 at 4:28:41 AM

I honestly find it hard to appreciate the higher specs.

Knack and the new inFamous look interesting.

Eldrake Rogue Servitor from Australia Relationship Status: Love is an open door
Rogue Servitor
Feb 21st 2013 at 4:44:26 AM

The push for social gaming and the Diablo 3 announcement made me think...

What if Diablo 3 is going to have cross-platform multiplayer? Portal 2 (And CS:GO I think) had it, so it's like it's an impossibility.

Feb 21st 2013 at 5:59:36 AM

I still don't see anything to justify shelling out money for a new console. All these look like they could have run on the PS 3 with a small graphics downgrade.

MikeBreezy92 Storm King Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
Storm King
Feb 21st 2013 at 6:28:08 AM

Well the games shown (Drive Club specifically) made it seem that they couldn't do what they wanted with current gen systems. The way Sony is talking, people are going to want to be more ambitious with the system and do things they couldn't do with current Gen systems.

Like I continue to say, it really doesn't seem like this was for the gamer but more the developers that were skeptical. Wait until E3 to really make a buy or fly judgement.

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Sorastitch Eden from Last Seen in The Shadowlands
Eden
Feb 21st 2013 at 6:45:15 AM

Now that I think of it, it really isn't worth it considering all it adds is a Dreamcast like controller, people able to play for you (no thanks), facebook integration (nah), and a few of the games are going to the PS 3 anyway.

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Feb 21st 2013 at 6:58:14 AM

I second that about the graphics ceiling. We're just not seeing the massive leaps forward like we did in previous generations. PS 4 games are undeniably pretty, but the improvements seem to be largely in the details.

1080P and 60FPS alone are a pretty nice bump. We'll also see better color ranges, cutting down on the brown-and-grey that's been so prevalent this generation. The PS 4 has 16 times as much RAM as the PS 3. The paltry 256/256 that the PS 3 has now is a huge pain in the ass for developers to work with, and is probably the biggest limitation on what the console can do right now. Hopefully this will be goodbye to low-rez textures in environments that stand out like a sore thumb compared to the player/enemies. AI can also be CPU-intensive, so there's a potential improvement there.

We didn't actually see a huge bump from the PS 3 transition right away either. It'll take a few years for developers to fully exploit the new hardware.

DingoWalley Your friendly neighborhood Cartoonist
Your friendly neighborhood Cartoonist
Feb 21st 2013 at 7:05:24 AM

Fallowing this event, Sony's Stocks... Drop...

Doesn't look good for poor Sony. sad

occono from Ireland.
Feb 21st 2013 at 7:08:05 AM

.....By 1.7%.

......Click bait, Dingo, click bait.

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Sorastitch Eden from Last Seen in The Shadowlands
Eden
Feb 21st 2013 at 7:13:16 AM

Screens: Are they worth it?

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DingoWalley Your friendly neighborhood Cartoonist
Your friendly neighborhood Cartoonist
Feb 21st 2013 at 7:16:25 AM

[up][up] Well Occonno, when you have posted seven consecutive yearly losses and have your credit downgraded to Junk Status by Rating Agencies, coupled with the fact that you went from having over 100 Billion Dollars to only having over 10 Billion Dollars, it's not a good sign when your stocks drop, even by 1.7%.

Sorastitch Eden from Last Seen in The Shadowlands
Eden
Feb 21st 2013 at 7:17:21 AM

[up] Yeah, there's not a lot you can drop by if you're already on the bottom of the hill.

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