Equestria Girls: A MLP:FiM Spin Off

They're not really setting Sunset Shimmer up with Flash Sentry again, are they?

Maybe they are.

Your basis for this idea is?

I kinda support it, in that Sunset is now redeemed and could actually try being a good girlfriend for Brad Sentry rather than a manipulative Alpha Bitch who was only doing it for prestige.

But I wouldn't know. I haven't watched EQG since Everfree.

I don't on the account of it being between an adult horse and a human child.

Weird, I know.

Edited by fredhot16 on Oct 14th 2019 at 6:50:41 AM

Well, it's not like there hasn't been precedent for that on the main show. This show generally has trouble depicting child crushes without getting creepy.

Besides Spike? I honestly can not remember a crush between a child and an adult on the show besides his. And it wasn't flippin' mutual, that's an important point.

Rarity was hardly above encouraging it for her own benefit, though, as that last episode showed. And that last episode also had some undertones that made it seem like she WAS being reciprocative to some extent.

And importantly, it never went anywhere in the long run. Spike appears to have let it go entirely by the time of the finale, and appears to still be single as far as we can tell.

Edited by Rytex on Oct 14th 2019 at 9:30:56 AM

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Hasbro decides the fate.

So to be clear, the holiday special will be the last EQG episode. It is then up to Hasbro whether or not the series will continue.

Finally saw the Sunset's Backstage Pass.

There's quite a lot of background detail in this one. Curly Winds and Wiz Kid are quite prominent in this special. We see Derpy and Bulk together a lot, further cementing that's somehting that happened in the background. Wallflower returns, looking quite amazing, and hanging out with Derpy.

The loop shenanigans were pretty fun, they played with emotions quite effectively in the bad time loops, the perfect Pinkie/Sunset time loop was quite endearing, the Dazzlings are a short cameo but quite a fun one, that perfectly shows how the characters are coping with the human world.

I wasn't really expecting Princess Twilight to show up, it was short, but the gag with the book was great.

Loving the character design for this special.

The resolution of the time loop was great, and the Post Crush song was pretty neat, specially with Sunset and Pinkie joining the vocals.

Between Pinkie/Sunset and Post Crush at the end, this special has quite a lot of Ho Yay if you ask me.

The only complain I really have is they got really lazy with placing the Time Twirler on Post Crush's hands. I wonder if the novelization handles that differently.

W Ho are Curly Winds and Wiz Kid again?

These two.

I didn't even notice Wallflower. I guess she's invisible as ever.

Her cameo is very minor, I notice because I'm super invested in Wallflower and knew before hand that she would show up somewhere (and I tend to pay attention to the background humans in general).

Checked the CYOE shorts in the official channel. As always, some endings work, some don't. Fluttershy was quite on fire in that set, with two of the best endings in the bunch. She also had one of the shortest endings ever in another.

Holidays Unwrapped

Well, here it is, the very last Equestria Girls special (that we know of), and with it, the last animated G4 material. Let's hope it's something good.

We open on... the humane six waking up from an all night study session, about to be late for their test. Yeah, this is why you don't pull an all nighter studying before a test. You run the risk of oversleeping, you won't be well rested for your test, and sleeping helps you retain knowledge much better than marathon study sessions do.

This is probably the hardest lesson for good students to learn: put down your book and go to sleep the night before a test. If you have to cram that shortly before a test, you've started studying too late to begin with. And if you started on time, getting a good night's sleep will help you retain that knowledge.

"I can't believe we all fell asleep halfway through our first all-nighter." So you weren't even planning on sleeping at all, then. Also, it seems very unlikely that this is their first all-nighter.

"It's snowing. Snow day means no school, no school means no test!" Everyone else is quick to point out that school won't close just for a bit of snow.

Dash wants to deliberately cause a snow storm to get a snow day declared. This reminds me of that episode where Tank is about to go into hibernation, and Dash tries to stop winter.

Also, I'd say messing with the weather for personal gain is pretty high on the villainous scheme list.

Annnd of course everyone goes along with it anyway. So much for morals, then.

Of course Pinkie is the one to eat a piece of pizza that has been laying out all night long. Now we know who the garbage gourmand in the group is.

How is this plan going to work, anyway. It didn't snow, like, at all. A cursory glance outside would have told Celestia that there was no snow whatsoever, and she clearly is already up and about. Also, didn't they mention they only got half an hour before the test? The timeline just doesn't add up.

Where did they get those giant blocks of ice from? And if they have ice, then why make a snowman out of potatoes?

Sunset Shimmer randomly reads the memory of a snow flake. What? I mean, what? Since when do snowflakes have memories in this universe? Since when can Sunset read the memory of random inanimate objects? This seems bizarrely out of place in this show.

And then Sunset blows the snowflake away and waves to it. Well, that's it, Sunny has officially lost her mind.

Of course they spend what should reasonably be all morning, if not longer, preparing all this subterfuge, without anyone noticing them. Wasn't there a test? Shouldn't there be dozens of students running around to get to the test? How about people looking outside and seeing what's going on?

"We did it! We saved the world!" What are you talking about, Dash? All you did was cheat to get out of a test.

Celestia and Luna walk into the office, and of course it looks like it has snowed. And apparently this is the first glance they had outside a window all morning. Don't they, like, open the curtains of their rooms when they wake up? This plot is full of holes.

"A blizzard." What, that light sprinkling of snow, and those few snowflakes coming down? Clearly these two never have seen a blizzard in their life.

And of course, this being a cartoon, Celestia and Luna cannot tell that they are looking at a painting, which would be pretty obvious in real life. Especially since it is placed like ten meters from the window!

I really don't see how they would be fooled by this. They clearly should be able to look around the painting.

And then some random guy shows up and spills the beans to Celestia and Luna. Yeah, no surprises there.

This guy has a weird face... Wait... is that Cranky? It is!

And then we get a wide shot of the situation, showing very clearly why that forced perspective shot from inside wouldn't have worked at all.

They all get detention, and they end up studying... the water cycle... which Dash claims was all part of the plan. And apparently no one knew that was the subject of the test. Uh... okay.

Is it me, or does this episode seem more childish than usual?

Everyone laughs, and... wait, that was it? Oh, these are shorts. Well, that's a little disappointing. Here I was hoping for one last adventure, but instead we get some rather inane shorts that aren't really about anything at all.

The second short starts with Pinkie listing names to keep time since her oven timer broke. Or she forgot to set it. Instead of, you know, counting, or setting the timer to a shorter time. And then she sets the time for getting the baked goods to the customer, instead of, you know, just leaving already. Don't these people have phones? Well, we know they have phones, so why do they need a timer to keep time to start with?

Of course there is a massive snowball fight outside, and... are they referencing Saving Private Ryan, or something? How many kids are going to get that?

Applejack is cheating at snowball throwing, using her super strength to throw a massive snowball, that would probably be lethal to get hit by.

Oh. Flash is here, too. Great. At least Sunny tells him to STFU.

Well, Rarity gets her mini souffle, and that's the end of that.

Also, the mane six aren't even bothering hiding their magic anymore.

The next short is about Applejack reminiscing about the Flim Flams messing up the Apple family parties. Like stealing their ladders. Because, uh, they need those in this universe. No kicking trees for the humans, apparently. Though Applejack could do just that now with her super horse strength.

Or taking the bottoms out of their baskets, which should have been fairly obvious before they used them. These are don't-think-too-hard-about-them gags, just like with the fake snow ploy before.

And then they gave Apple Bloom... a pet worm? Wouldn't there be plenty of worms in an apple orchard to start with? How is THIS a prank? And how does one little worm somehow cause a plague of them?

Wait, isn't it supposed to be winter? Why are these girls walking outside in their t-shirts?

Sci-Twi invents traps for the Flim Flams, and they make some cider. The non-alcoholic kind, I assume. It's interesting how shows always censor alcohol, but cider seems to get a free pass on this show. I wonder how many kids watched these ponies (and now these humans) chug mugs full of cider, and decided to try for themselves, likely not knowing the difference between the alcoholic and non-alcoholic variant...

It's still weird to me how Big Mac, who is supposed to be bulky and muscular, looks like a normal cartoon human, while the girls look comparatively anorexic in comparison. Granny doesn't look that thin, either. This says something rather unflattering about the art style of this show...

The Flim Flams are trying to buy cider from the Apples... for a giant diamond. In what universe does that make sense? Who would even fall for that?

The plan seems to work, but the real cider is stolen... by digging a tunnel underneath the box. Yeah, that makes sense...

The Flim F Lams seem to outsmart Sci-Twi and steal the cider, but she outsmarts them anyway.

Also, this has just gone from a scam to outright assault and robbery. Is there no police force around this town??

Also, Granny Smith loses her mind celebrating, and lets out a rather crazy sounding laugh. Okay then.

Next short. Sunset let Apples use her locker to store some toys, but Pinkie lost the key. Why Pinkie has the key to Sunsets locker is beyond me.

Also, Granny Smith turned the barn into a hot yoga studio. Wait, what? That seems rather random. Again.

"I've been paying monthly and I never use it." "What is it, a gym membership?" Apparently Sci-Twi is the maker of lame jokes today.

Pinkie gave the key to Dash, who gave it to Flutters, who gave it to some ranndom ass owl. I do not see the logic here. Again, why does anyone but Sunset have they key to Sunset's personal storage locker? And why are they passing the key around like it's some unwanted burden? Don't these kids have keyrings? How flipping hard is it to keep track of a single key?

And the owl gave the key to Rarity. Yeah...

And then Rarity gave the key back to Sunset, so why she is asking Pinkie for it, I do not know. What is it with passing that key around?

And then Sunset left the key in her locker at school. Why she keeps the key in her locker at school, rather than, you know, at her home, is also beyond me. This conflict seems rather contrived.

Gods, these shorts are brainless...

Cut to Sunset futilely pulling at the school doors, which are obviously locked.

So instead of, you know, calling Celestia to let them in (and I have no doubt that Celestia and Luna would be fine letting them in for this occasion), they break into the school to get the key. Like, actual burglary. Well, this is a great lesson for kids.

And of course they go in through the air vents, rather than the much easier route of, say, forcing a door or window.

"Fortunately the hallway has a motion sensor security system, which we'll have to hack into and disable." Why is someone patrolling the empty school? This isn't a bank, guys. But then again, clearly the writers wanted to have our heroes do a bank heist. Because burglary is magic!

Yep, the janitor is patrolling the school like a security guard. Even though, remember, the school is closed for holiday.

"You do know that you're decribing breaking and entering, right?" Well, at least someone has some common sense.

"And finally, climbing a vent is dangerous, and if a young person saw us doing it, they might try to immitate it and get hurt." Yeah! Not like all those other dangerous things they've been doing that would be dangerous in real life! We have to draw the line somewhere!

Also, writers, only old people describe kids as "young person". Know your character's age!

"How exactly are we supposed to bake two dozen cupcakes before the toys festival, hmmm?" I mean, you have time to faff about out here, so clearly you have plenty of time. And cupcakes don't exactly take long to bake, so this is hardly the most impossible part of the plan.

"Someone has to have a plan that's not a crime?" How about ringing the doorbell? Or calling Celestia? How thick are these kids?

"We got powers. I'm sick of us not using our powers." Right, they are going to break and enter using their powers. Because that's totally legal... right?

"You know what, fine. Why don't YOU plan the heist." IT IS NOT A HEIST! And you just agreed that you're not going to commit any crimes!

And they DO ask Celestia to let them get the key. Well, at least they are finally being sensible. Or Sci-Twi is, at least. The rest is just one poor judgement call away from committing a stupid burglary, apparently. It doesn't exactly reflect well on their characters, to be honest.

So yet another contrived problem was solved with the most obvious solution.

"Twilight, where's that bag I gave you?" "We left it at school... but I got an idea." Just get another bag? Stop suggesting crime at the drop of a hat, guys!

I mean, really, if you have a small problem, and your first go-to solution is committing crimes, you have a serious problem.

Next short. It's Christmas... and again, everyone is walking around in their normal summery clothing. Must be a pretty balmy winter, then. I mean, they're in the mall, but you still don't see people in their summer clothes at the mall on Christmas.

"I learned the hard way that high velocity and icy sidewalks don't mix." Wait, so it is freezing outside. And Dash isn't even wearing a coat. This episode is seasonally confused.

They're having a secret santa (in the middle of the mall, for whatever reason), and of course Dash forgot that that was today. Y'know, on Christmas. Talk about having a brain fart.

"How am I supposed to find a present in the next five minutes?" You are literally inside a shopping mall.

"A line??" So? You can't wait three minutes in line? They're not exactly long, either. Wait, why are these people waiting in line in front of a clearly empty doorway?

"An even longer line??" It's like, five people. The first one had four. This is such a nothingburger of a problem.

It's Zephyr. Great... And he sells shoe laces. Not shoes. Shoe laces.

And he lets Dash jump the line, of course. Frankly, I'm amazed that there even is a line. Who buys SHOE LACES as Christmas gifts?

Oh, they sell other crap, too. Then what was that whole thing about shoe laces? I don't get it.

Dash gets Flutters some camera, which she already had (the same one, even), but apparently she really likes it.

Next episode. Oh, so now it is snowing. One short, there's no snow at all, and then another, suddenly there's loads of it.

And of course everyone is still walking around in t-shirts. Man, heating bills must be through the roof for Canterlot High to be that balmy.

Apparently Apples has a family tradition of dressing up, which seems more like a Halloween thing, but sure. Also, they apparently mastered stealth technology, because in one picture, they are actually invisible.

"Oh... good goody." Really, Rarity? You are the one pooh pooing the idea of getting all dressed up for a picture? I don't get that reaction.

For some reason, everyone is really dodgy about Apples' idea, which really doesn't sound all that terrible. I'm not sure why they are all suddenly so cagey about this.

Rarity offers to make the costumes, but she seems oddly resigned about it, as if she's not really feeling like making costumes, but feels obligated because of her element of generosity. I know she doesn't have that here, but clearly, at this point, the episode doesn't even care anymore.

"I can't be in this picture, Twilight. What if I look silly?" Silly?? Since when has that been a concern on THIS show? Also, where did it say they had to look silly?

Also, with the sort of fashion this show pushes at times, I'm not even sure where they draw the line between fashionable and silly.

I don't really see where this sudden fear of looking silly comes from, not just with Sunset, but with the others as well. Especially Rarity.

"For friendship." I'm not sure it counts when you do it with this much resentment.

They all look like giant fruit people! THIS is Rarity's fashionable interpretation of a cornucopeia?

Also, Sunny gets a spiked belt for absolutely no other reason than that she is apparently the edgy goth of the group. As reinforced by Rarity.

"Just get to the auditorium before anyone sees us." You could, like, pack them up and then go.

Also, wasn't school supposed to be closed? What day is it supposed to be, anyway? Why are they at the school in the first place?

Anyway, they get humiliated in public (apparently school is still open?), and then Applejack laughs at them as well, explaining she just wanted to take a picture, no costumes needed. Rarity gets revenge by giving Apples her costume.

And then they all break the fourth wall, saying goodbye with saying their names to the audience.

Well, that was the final Equestria Girls. Or rather, a bunch of shorts, really, with rather low stakes and inane plots. There were some fun bits, but overall, I can't help but feel this is a bit of a letdown. I'd honestly much rather see Sunsets Backstage Pass as the real final episode.

So Celestia lives at the school? There's no other excuse for her to be there on school break otherwise. Also, was this the first time we saw human versions of Flim and Flam? I wonder which characters were never shown in human form (well, besides the non-pony characters like Discord and the villains of course).

No, Flim Flam appeared in one of the shorts for Rainbow Rocks (the one where Apples buys her bass guitar).

This show also seems to be rather undecided whether or not this school is supposed to have dorms. There don't seem to be dorms, except the students seem to spend an unreasonable amount of free time at the school if that's the case.

Does anyone know where I can watch Holidays Unwrapped? (please PM me)

So finally got around to watching the special.

You'd think Twilight would be smart enough to know that all-nighters don't really work. Sleep deprivation means you'll do badly on the test anyway.

"I have 20/20 vision" says the one wearing glasses. Not sure if that was supposed to be a joke or not.

Trying to trick Celestia into calling a snow day sounds like a bad sitcom plot. Especially now that she could just check the weather online. Assuming it's even her call. Normally the school district would handle that. Unless Rainbow Dash somehow gets the pegasus ponies to help and makes it snow for real.

Well this is incredibly silly. Also a major case of Cut Lex Luthor a Check. If they could pull all this off in 30 minutes, even with magic, you'd think they'd be able to just study during that time.

Siliness intensifies. Still not sure what the potatoes have to do with anything.

Wow, people weren't kidding about Sunset reading the memories of a snowflake. I wonder if that will come up later, since it seems incredibly random right now.

... and then Celestia walks 5 feet to the right and sees it's not actually snowy outside. Or uses her depth perception.

... wait, ending gag and Iris Out already? Is this an anthology of shorts or something?

I guess this is a collection of shorts. In this one, we have a snowball fight framed like a war movie. Nice to see they aren't taking themselves seriously, given how silly all the premises are.

"I was born are you" made me actually laugh.

AJ... those aren't scams. Those are just cruel pranks. Not at all like the Flim Flams normally behave.

The love montage with AB and the worm was actually pretty funny.

Man, the designs of the human!Flim Flams just look creepy. There's something off about their faces.

Not much to say about the heist short. But the next one features a male gay couple exchanging gifts and blushing, which seems notable. I don't think there's ever been one so prominent before.

Edited by storyyeller on Nov 10th 2019 at 5:07:23 AM

I wonder if EQG is quietly labelling Granny Smith as fat, since she is one of the few women that have normal-looking arms, as opposed to the sticks that pass for arms for most girls on the show.

Just finished. The last short makes the first one retroactively even stupider since they are shown at school while everything is covered in snow, meaning that we know they couldn't cancel school over just a bit of snow. Oh well.

It got a lot better once I realized it wasn't meant to be taken seriously. There were some pretty funny moments.

Also, don't understand why they were so worried about being seen by the students when the entire plan was to take a photo and send it to everyone at school. Huh?

On it's own it is not a bad special. I'm just a bit bummed that this is the one we are ending the show on. I was hoping for something more of a finale, like the main show got.

Still pulling for that movie where everybody has to sacrifice their magic 4EVER!