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Klavice (Elder Troper)
#6476: Oct 12th 2024 at 4:02:46 PM

Yeah pretty much. I’d honestly say even Flash Sentry is too liked by younger fans (just look at all the headcanon wikis that pair him up with Twilight) and more fits Satellite Love Interest. Same with Timber Spruce. Although I think one character that SHOULD be added is Zephyr breeze. I’ve met like a whopping total of THREE fans of his on every website I go to, everyone else (the TD included) find him insufferable and/or annoying and only exists to give a This Loser Is You message you to adults who still live with their family.

Bozzy Since: Feb, 2023
#6477: Oct 12th 2024 at 4:07:42 PM

Yeah, their entries admit through gritted teeth they don't actually fit the trope. Cut all three

Klavice (Elder Troper)
#6478: Oct 12th 2024 at 4:29:13 PM

Also, while we’re on the topic this example just says the character(s) are Annoying Younger Sibling and nothing else to Megan. Should I cut it? It’s PRETTY much a ZCE. My Little Pony 'n Friends: Molly and Danny from the original series aren't exceptionally liked by the fanbase, seen as Annoying Younger Siblings to Megan who weren't needed since Megan was good enough.

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Bozzy Since: Feb, 2023
#6480: Oct 14th 2024 at 12:51:27 PM

That's what I'm thinking. Anyone else want to weigh in? MLP is a bit of a minefield to put it lightly

Mariofan99 Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#6481: Oct 22nd 2024 at 12:14:29 AM

[up] Cut those also this entry was add to the discussion section for Star Wars’ page on The Scrappy. Do you think it should be added

  • Zorii Bliss is seen by many as an unnecesary and boring love interest who only seemed to exist to give Poe Dameron a love interest at the last minute to avert making the Fan-Preferred Couple Poe/Finn ship from happening and thus has lead to some accusations she was only written to avert making Poe look like gay or chaste (especially the former, as his actor Oscar Issacs campaigned heavily to make Poe gay). She's also disliked for providing and forming part of a rather divisive backstory for Poe of being a Spice Runner during his youth, which many feel it doesn't add anything to the character beyond him being familiar with a droidsmith and contradicting previous information known about the character, making Poe way too similar to Han Solo in the process.

Edited by Mariofan99 on Oct 22nd 2024 at 3:17:33 PM

Klavice (Elder Troper)
#6482: Oct 23rd 2024 at 1:00:47 AM

I mean I’d argue most of The Kennedyverse Star Wars Characters are at the very least base breaking but she appears to just be a Satellite Love Interest given she is just kinda… there. SLI I would say doesn’t always equate Scrappy as proven with Flash Sentry.

Mariofan99 Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#6483: Oct 23rd 2024 at 4:20:24 AM

[up] I’ve kinda distanced myself from Star Wars discussion these past few years so I can’t say for certain but I don’t recall much if any discussion about the character

(Also Kenndyverse is a pretty cringe fan name TBH)

king15 Have Faun Since: Mar, 2024
Have Faun
#6484: Oct 23rd 2024 at 4:26:40 AM

I feel like most reactions to her character are ambivalence and a dislike for the role she plays in the story, but I don't think she herself is hated enough to be The Scrappy, though a better expert on the fanbase would know better.

MummyGaGa Mermaid Sparkla from A magical realm Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Mermaid Sparkla
#6485: Oct 26th 2024 at 1:10:46 PM

Okay, it's been six months since Knuckles first came-out, and I want to ask- Does Wanda from that show count? Based on the online reactions I have seen, Wanda is disliked by many people, with some even compare her to some of the more infamous Sonic humans such as Elise or Chris, and I have not seen a person defending her.

Here's an entry was cut due to it breaking the No Recent Examples, Please! policy, but since it's now six months, I wonder if we can re-add the entry now.

My only concern is that if she was seen as intentionally annoying, as Wade doesn't seem to like her all that much, but since none of the other characters seem to mind her, I don't think that is the case.

BTW, please call me Jake.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#6486: Oct 26th 2024 at 1:11:42 PM

I'm unfamiliar with the work, but if it's re-added, it needs a rewrite. It's just one brief run-on sentence.

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MummyGaGa Mermaid Sparkla from A magical realm Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Mermaid Sparkla
#6487: Oct 27th 2024 at 10:04:16 AM

Well, Wanda got re-added without much consensus from this thread. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought you need approval from the thread if you want to add a Scrappy entry. That being said, I feel like her entry can stay, as like I said before, I haven't seen a single person defending her. Additionally, her entry is now no longer a brief run-on sentence, as it is much more detailed. This is what her entry looks like now if you have to ask-

  • The Scrappy: Wanda Wipple is a character that even the biggest supporters of this show hate, primarily due to her incessantly annoying presence marked by a grating personality and overly aggressive behavior. Her relentless bullying of her brother Wade is particularly off-putting, as she frequently belittles him without any repercussions. In a notable instance, her actions culminate in her stabbing Wade with a fork during a heated argument, an incident that occurs in front of their mother, yet she faces no consequences for her violent behavior. Moreover, Wanda's high-pitched, whiny voice adds to her irritation factor, making her scenes even more insufferable. She also displays a spiteful streak when she refuses to let Wade uncuff her, opting instead to do it herself. This petty decision reinforces her unlikable traits, leading audiences to see her as selfish and irritating rather than funny. Wanda's character is further exacerbated by her being dragged along throughout the rest of the series, such as when she joins the bowling match, forcing fans to endure her presence even longer. It doesn't help that she never goes through any meaningful development, instead making her feel like yet another forced addition that detracts from the show's focus on Knuckles. Additionally, her dismissive attitude toward the struggles of others, particularly in her interactions with Wade, reveals a lack of respect for those around her, further cementing her role as an irredeemable character. You know your character is universally loathed when even the actual villains, as well as Pistol Pete, are more charismatic than she is.

BTW, please call me Jake.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#6488: Oct 27th 2024 at 10:05:11 AM

No, you've never needed approval. Valid examples are valid examples.

Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 27th 2024 at 1:05:33 PM

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#6490: Oct 27th 2024 at 12:36:04 PM

Yeah. You could condensed that in a couple of sentences.

MummyGaGa Mermaid Sparkla from A magical realm Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Mermaid Sparkla
#6491: Oct 27th 2024 at 12:43:55 PM

[up][up][up]Oh, thanks for telling me that.

[up][up]Perhaps it can be trimmed down to this?

  • The Scrappy: Wanda Wipple is a character that even the biggest supporters of this show hate, primarily due to her incessantly annoying presence marked by a grating personality, a high-pitched, whiny voice, and overly aggressive behavior. Her relentless bullying of her brother Wade is particularly off-putting, as she frequently belittles him without any repercussions. Additionally, while her personality is meant to be Played for Laughs, many people didn't find her all that funny to begin with. It doesn't help that she never goes through any meaningful development, instead making her feel like yet another forced addition that detracts from the show's focus on Knuckles.

Edited by MummyGaGa on Oct 27th 2024 at 3:44:13 PM

BTW, please call me Jake.
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#6493: Oct 27th 2024 at 12:49:39 PM

Yeah, that works.

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MummyGaGa Mermaid Sparkla from A magical realm Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Mermaid Sparkla
#6494: Oct 27th 2024 at 12:55:55 PM

I just trimmed down the Wanda entry btw.

BTW, please call me Jake.
ronis w Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#6495: Oct 29th 2024 at 7:11:15 PM

I don't think TheScrappy.Pokemon as a page is necessary anymore. The page has gotten severely gutted over the years (namely with the removal of species-based Scrappies), and doesn't have many examples as a result. Pre-existing examples can go on their respective pages (i.e. Juan on YMMV.Pokemon Ruby And Sapphire).

Klavice (Elder Troper)
#6496: Oct 30th 2024 at 10:25:36 AM

I agree with sending the Pokemon page to the cutlist and leaving the examples on either the main anime page or the main video game page.

Mariofan99 Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Sawkman Since: Apr, 2018
#6498: Oct 31st 2024 at 5:52:10 PM

I believe that Princess Elise and Rachel should be cut from Sonic the Hedgehog. Both have since graduated into Base-Breaking Characters (Elise going through positive Character Perception Evolution over the years and Rachel getting Rescued from the Scrappy Heap in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (2022)).

Idisagree Since: Jun, 2011
#6499: Oct 31st 2024 at 6:43:28 PM

[up] I agree with cutting the Pokemon Page and Rachel (the Sonic Movies). Rachel got Rescued from the Scrappy Heap by the sequel and is more of a Base-Breaking Character as a result. Elise (Sonic 06) is the one I'm not so sure about. She may have eventually gotten Character Perception Evolution over time but she qualified as The Scrappy for over a decade and is still a Base-Breaking Character at best. We've had precedence for character still counting for those reasons (most notably the Trope Namer, Scrappy Doo himself).

Mariofan99 Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#6500: Nov 1st 2024 at 5:43:16 AM

[up] agree with Rachel but has Elise really been that vindicated? To me it seems more people acknowledge the character had potential to be good than actually liking hwr


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