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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#60651: Mar 24th 2020 at 8:27:49 AM

> I am sorry! It was just a joke but it did hurt to say it.

A joke in poor taste since Peter aka Spiderman did not take his own life pointlessly,he sacrificed himself when Uncle Ben got through to him and Peter realised he couldn't properly remove Carnage and jumping into the portal was a last desperate attempt to free himself

My wild mass guess that carnage perished without a host and Peter ended up somewhere else alive.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#60652: Mar 24th 2020 at 8:43:30 AM

Seems unlikely

Didn’t the venom symbiote survive a trip into outer space and back without a host?

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#60653: Mar 24th 2020 at 9:04:39 AM

[up][up]When I said "joke" I meant that it wasnt entirely serious. Not that I joke about suicide.

EDIT:Also I know that. I didnt forget the context.

Edited by AegisP on Mar 24th 2020 at 9:05:25 AM

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Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#60654: Mar 24th 2020 at 9:42:47 AM

As more time goes on the more Steven becomes a Madoka Magica character.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#60655: Mar 24th 2020 at 11:11:32 AM

Finally was able to watch this episode, and damn. Interesting to see that the Diamond's Heel–Face Turn reversed their powers too, and also that their new powers are still not entirely unproblematic. Yellow is still modifying people's bodies, even if she's doing so with their consent, Blue is still influencing other's emotions, and White is enabling other people to use her size and power. After what happened last episode, I was seriously scared that Steven was going to shatter White Diamond at the end there.

Also, don't be mean to someone who just said they were "majorly depressed". I don't think Steven committing suicide is likely at all, but that's no excuse to be harsh and mean.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#60656: Mar 24th 2020 at 11:13:29 AM

I guess Yellow also has healing powers. Does that mean Blue and White do too?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#60657: Mar 24th 2020 at 11:19:55 AM

Well, Yellow was the only one who's old powers were directly focused on doing physical harm to Gems. It makes sense that the reverse would be physically making them better. Another thing I caught onto is that the Diamonds have basically become therapists now. Yellow is a physical therapist, Blue is an emotional therapist, and White has become a spiritual therapist.

This episode also gave us some top-tier Steven reaction faces, especially to White.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Mar 24th 2020 at 11:23:01 AM

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#60658: Mar 24th 2020 at 11:33:05 AM

To be honest, White allowing other people to take control of her seems like a poor way to make amends. Nobody should be mind-controling anyone, and allowing yourself to be puppeteered by your former victims isn't really a healthy way to apologize.

jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#60659: Mar 24th 2020 at 11:37:04 AM

...Dangit, I was going to wait for Friday, but I guess there was no escaping it.

Still, with different circumstances, Steven seeing other Diamonds turning to healers would have been pretty wholesome episode...

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ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#60660: Mar 24th 2020 at 11:40:20 AM

So when Steven is inevitably overcome with this confusion and anger about what he really wants and has to address it, I think it would be a nice call back to Rose's Room with a tiny whale asking him 'What do you want, Steven?'

Seems like his frustration is his gem half not meshing mentally with his human half concerning job function. Gems pop up out of the ground knowing their existence's job. Steven isn't handling inevitable change well, which is normal for humans, but it's worse with his gem unable to comprehend that either. And this perhaps got worse after they were separated in Change Your Mind, essentially waking up Pink Steven and now he can't be put back.

Or perhaps he's still sad over cookie cat, whichever.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#60661: Mar 24th 2020 at 11:54:31 AM

Quit the show for sure...if he was sad due to that.

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#60662: Mar 24th 2020 at 11:57:18 AM

I have another idea and this one is more cheerful... the one who helps Steven...Could be Steven From the past.

Better yet, how about him getting help from The Greater-Scope Villain herself, Evil McHorribleBastard aka Pink Diamond aka Rose Quartz?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#60663: Mar 24th 2020 at 12:00:11 PM

Turns out he gets help from Lars of all people

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
alanh Since: May, 2010
#60665: Mar 24th 2020 at 12:19:47 PM

5x[up] wild mass guessAs Bookends to the series, Cookie Cats are reintroduced and Steven is happy again.wild mass guess

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60666: Mar 24th 2020 at 3:13:11 PM

I guess Yellow also has healing powers. Does that mean Blue and White do too?
They already used them in "Legs from Here to Homeworld" on Nephrite. Yellow healed her body, Blue restored her sapience, and Steven made her coherent.

Nobody should be mind-controling anyone, and allowing yourself to be puppeteered by your former victims isn't really a healthy way to apologize.
It's more body control than mind control. And if if both parties are willing, why shouldn't they?

Letting ignored people temporarily live a power fantasy isn't as useful as was what Yellow and Blue are doing, but it's still fairly constructive.


"Homeworld Bound" is now on YouTubeTV, and presumably other internet television services.

Edited by thatother1dude on Mar 24th 2020 at 5:24:05 AM

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#60667: Mar 24th 2020 at 3:44:01 PM

According to the credits, the two gems in Yellow Diamond's room are called Chert (voiced by Michaela Dietz) and Flint (voiced by Kimberly Brooks). I presume the yellow one is Chert and the grey one is Flint; both minerals are quartz-based in real life, so it makes sense for them to be Quartz soldiers.

Edited by Snicka on Mar 24th 2020 at 11:45:47 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60668: Mar 24th 2020 at 3:46:06 PM

Specifically, Flint is the gray one, Chert the yellow. The quartz talking about the Zircons was Red Striped Jasper, and the tour guide was Aubergine Pearl.

(I had no idea flint was a type of quartz.)


I was updating the betting pool, and what the shit someone actually called Jemaine Clement as being a guest star back in September.

Edited by thatother1dude on Mar 24th 2020 at 5:56:41 AM

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#60669: Mar 24th 2020 at 3:58:30 PM

[up]Did they also guess that he'll be doing yet another David Bowie impression? He's basically making a career out of those now.

deuteragonist Since: Dec, 2013
#60670: Mar 24th 2020 at 6:37:10 PM

Random but Spinel has a bit of a crush on Steven? That...sounds about right. Or is it more of an annoying cousin/sibling kind of thing? I can't really tell...

Still, I love that Steven surpasses Goku in the "close friends that previously hated you or, at worst, tried to kill you" department (don't know the name of the trope but I know there is one for it).

Anyway, "Homeworld Bound" is the first time where Steven as a character is genuinely terrifying. STEVEN. Did anyone else get chills at Zach's line delivery of "Too bad..."?

There is a lot to unpack in the shattering attempt. For one thing, not only is Steven controlling White Diamond but he's also sadistically acting out her terror. It's like he's getting gratification not just from vengeance but also from being totally in control of her helplessness and torture. This is probably the darkest thing this show has ever done.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#60671: Mar 24th 2020 at 6:39:23 PM

there is D A R K N E S S in Steven's once pure heart

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#60672: Mar 24th 2020 at 6:48:12 PM

[up][up]The trope is called Defeat Means Friendship.

That bit where Steven was in control of White felt more like a dream sequence than anything else.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60673: Mar 24th 2020 at 6:51:50 PM

Y'know looking at how the Diamonds and Steven act, it's clear to me their need to be needed by others is what drives them. As the rulers of the Gem Empire, they were the oppressive tyrants who needed to be perfect to their followers, who looked to them for guidance,!and letting their own flaws show is making themselves be "less" than what they were needed as. The new era has them expressing this desire in a healthier way.

Steven actions after doing everything he's needed to be done, now everyone has moved onwards while he is no longer needed, yet Steven NEEDS to be needed, has him becoming more and more like what the Diamonds used to be.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Mar 24th 2020 at 6:54:08 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60674: Mar 24th 2020 at 6:54:36 PM

Random but Spinel has a bit of a crush on Steven? That...sounds about right. Or is it more of an annoying cousin/sibling kind of thing? I can't really tell...
That was total a Bugs Bunny type of kiss.

That bit where Steven was in control of White felt more like a dream sequence than anything else.
The head smashing was definitely real, though it was actually Steven's real body doing that part.

What matters for the rest is how much Steven was talking to White versus how much he was talking to himself.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60675: Mar 24th 2020 at 6:59:13 PM

It was likely both I feel

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