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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60476: Mar 18th 2020 at 2:33:29 PM

[up][up] I figured. At least we don't have to worry about avoiding spoilers from "Homeworld Bound".

[up] Uncorrrupted, I mean.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Mar 18th 2020 at 5:33:49 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60477: Mar 18th 2020 at 6:57:37 PM

Friday's second new episode, "Fragments", is based on an idea Ian JQ had while still writing for the original series.

Considering he left in season two, it must have been on the backburner for quite a while.


"In Dreams" and "Growing Pains" both used new segments of more of "Being Human", which you can tell is getting pretty close to complete.

Rebecca Sugar did a restrospective interview for Variety. It's mostly stuff that's been mentioned in other interviews, but it oddly has a new promo pic that Jones-Quartey mentioned in the above tweet. It's Garnet in Little Homeworld surrounded by more Steven plants, seemingly made from bushes or trees.

Edited by thatother1dude on Mar 18th 2020 at 9:39:04 AM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60478: Mar 20th 2020 at 2:49:23 PM

[up] That's a very odd picture to have "The character Garnet embodied much of the show's queer representation" as a caption.


This is dumb, but I got a laugh out of it.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60479: Mar 20th 2020 at 4:29:48 PM

excuse me while i scream to the high heavens

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60480: Mar 20th 2020 at 4:33:27 PM

That was an escalation. And then like two more.

I was completely wrong about which promo image came from "Fragments"—and failed to notice the one where Steven carries the rocks was also from an unaired episode.

Edited by thatother1dude on Mar 20th 2020 at 6:43:18 AM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60481: Mar 20th 2020 at 4:43:36 PM

I was planning on writing a fanfic for the longest time where Jasper's gem is cracked for all of the story and I don't know what to do with that now

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#60482: Mar 20th 2020 at 4:48:10 PM

Holy shit

I just

-sticks hand over mouth-

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#60483: Mar 20th 2020 at 5:03:55 PM

I cannot BELIEVE that just happened oh my GOD.

Very happy that it looks like Jasper is gonna be in more episodes though!

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
deuteragonist Since: Dec, 2013
#60484: Mar 20th 2020 at 5:04:16 PM

Y'all...these episodes were EVERY-FREAKING-THING!

Mr. Universe- I'm so glad we finally got to see some backstory on Steven's paternal side. Steven was being a little hard on Greg, but I love that the show has him discover that the lack of "normalcy" during his childhood did have some direct affect on his young adulthood. But...it's pretty sad to think that Steven regrets the life that he had. In spite of all of the trauma, there were a lot of great moments in Steven's life.

Fragments- This episode...wow. So good. Steven shattered Jasper...who would have thought? We knew Steven's powers were going to get out of control and hurt someone but Jasper was an unexpected twist. I almost wish she hadn't been revived because it was dangerously close to being a cop out, but the stinger at the end made it worth it. I'm not saying that I want the writers to torture Steven with more guilt and more trauma but...I'm not saying that I don't. This episode was great storytelling. Also, not gonna lie, Super Steven is a cutie.

I can't believe next week is the end for Steven Universe. What an amazing ride this has been.

Edited by deuteragonist on Mar 20th 2020 at 5:07:54 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60485: Mar 20th 2020 at 5:11:18 PM

I'm OK with showing the downside of Greg's parenting style, but I do hope he does something to at least realize that, because the end of "Mr. Universe" be a bitter-ass place for his character to end at.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#60486: Mar 20th 2020 at 5:25:38 PM

In the words of TF Wiki.net

WHAT THE FFUUUUUUUUUUUU—

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60487: Mar 20th 2020 at 5:29:47 PM

The moment I saw Buff Steven, I immediately went "oh that's why the shrub Stevens look like that"


I decided I'm still going to write the fanfic, but now I'm gonna have to put an All Caps notice in the tags that it was planned before "Fragments" aired.

I still can't believe that happened oh my god

That was an idea from Season 2

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Mar 20th 2020 at 8:30:35 AM

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deuteragonist Since: Dec, 2013
#60488: Mar 20th 2020 at 5:30:23 PM

Wait..."Mr. Universe" actually brings up a lot of questions.

Is the show is outright saying that Greg wasn't really fit to be a parent? I mean, yeah, he gave Steven unconditional love and acceptance, but all of the structure, maturity, and hard lessons he learned was from the Gems. But then again, that's where most of his trauma came from.

On one hand, the episode kind of brought out Greg's immaturity: sneaking into his childhood home, avoiding his parents, justifying his son growing up in the back of a van (until he didn't), and kind of downplaying Steven's childhood in comparison to his. It's no wonder the Gems took over.

But at the same, Greg's relationship with his own parents seems pretty strained and tragic. They didn't even read any of the letters he sent to them. They never even tried to reach out to see their grandson. Did they even know Steven existed? Did they care? How does this affect Steven? Why didn't Steven ever get to meet his family?

Edited by deuteragonist on Mar 20th 2020 at 5:31:19 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60489: Mar 20th 2020 at 5:51:39 PM

Is the show is outright saying that Greg wasn't really fit to be a parent?
It's showing Greg as more flawed (specifically as a parent, not just an individual) than before, and in a way he's not really improved from, but I still wouldn't call him a poor father, much less one who shouldn't be a parent.

They didn't even read any of the letters he sent to them.
I think that was a good way to explain their absence that wasn't entirely on Greg.

Did they even know Steven existed? Did they care?
Before Andy met Steven, they most likely didn't. If they learned since depends on if Andy

(Speaking of which, Andy mentioned he and Greg's paternal grandfather moved to "the keys", while this episode mentions Greg's parents have a time share on "Florida Island".)

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#60490: Mar 20th 2020 at 5:56:00 PM

I like how "Mr. Universe" at least implied that Greg's parents weren't the best (banning music outright is... extreme) but that Steven has a point also in being mad at Greg. Greg kinda went way too far the other direction, while his parents were overly strict, Greg was overly lax.

I don't think this makes Greg unfit to be a parent, I think it just means he meant well but he definitely made some mistakes.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60491: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:14:39 PM

There's a nice ambiguity over whether Greg is justified to hate his childhood so much or if Steven's "that doesn't sound so bad" attitude is right.

Their failings were very mundane (always serving the same food, making Greg take a bunch of extracurriculars he didn't like, forcing him to cut his hair a certain way), but did that make them any less painful to Greg?

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#60492: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:24:11 PM

Is it me or did Steven's pupils become diamond shaped before he smashed Jasper?

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60493: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:27:04 PM

They did. The previews for the next episode are rolling with that idea.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60494: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:28:44 PM

Them being pure white surprised me.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#60495: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:33:12 PM

It's been easy to infer this relationship between Greg and his parents for a long time. Greg has even related Rose's familial past to his own before. I've inferred before that Greg's relationship with his parents must be very difficult for him, but that Steven would benefit from an opportunity to at least know more about them so he could contextualise his life more. Which Steven acknowledges and more.

But damn. At this point the show has sabotaged Steven's relationship with absoloutly everyone in his life.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#60496: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:38:14 PM

Sooo,the next episode is Homeword bound,I'm wondering why they're going there now..

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#60497: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:40:18 PM

I don't think it's a terrible thing to say Greg wasn't the best father.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60498: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:40:36 PM

I'm wondering why they're going there now..
Did you see the promo after tonight's episodes? Steven blocks off the other Crystal Gems (and Jasper) behind his shield, tells them "You can't help me anymore.", and takes the Galaxy Warp.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#60499: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:42:22 PM

I did not see the promo,nope

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#60500: Mar 20th 2020 at 6:42:30 PM

I guess we could say Steven is having a...BREAKDOWN, BREAKDOWN!!!

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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