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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#60378: Mar 13th 2020 at 5:35:25 PM

There's a skellyboy inside him

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60379: Mar 13th 2020 at 5:58:52 PM

Here is Steven's medical chart.

  • His middle name is listed just as he said the episode before: "Quartz Cutie Pie DeMayo Diamond"
  • Steven's street address is just "The Beach". In "Love Letters", it was pointed out that he needed Jamie to know where he lived to get mail, implying the Beach House doesn't have an address set up properly.
  • Current employment "Retired", previous employment "Earth ambassador".
  • His general practitioner, insurance, and social security number are all marked "N/A".
  • He's 5'6", 145 lbs.
  • Additional note: "exercises moderately/takes vitamins"

I'm guessing Steven filled this out himself, so don't assume that's all totally accurate.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60380: Mar 13th 2020 at 6:19:04 PM

Delmarva seems to be quite permissive considering the risk of parental neglect and the necessity of things like property taxes and such.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#60381: Mar 13th 2020 at 6:20:02 PM

I'm pretty impressed by the explanation Dr. Maheswaran gives Steven about his PTSD, and how it shows through flashbacks that the events of the entire show are all responsible for this.

I was really nervous for Together Forever because of the leak but I'm glad that in the end, Steven didn't blame or get mad at Connie, and Connie made it very clear that this was a "for now" rejection and not a "forever" rejection.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#60382: Mar 13th 2020 at 6:21:03 PM

PHEW! I am so glad. I hope Steven Will get help.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60383: Mar 13th 2020 at 6:52:21 PM

the events of the entire show are all responsible for this.
I'm glad seeing those alternate timeline Stevens turn to sand was ranked as montage worthy.

I was really nervous for Together Forever because of the leak but I'm glad that in the end, Steven didn't blame or get mad at Connie, and Connie made it very clear that this was a "for now" rejection and not a "forever" rejection.
More important than that, Connie realized Steven asked because he was feeling very desperate. And while she seemed to have taken his "It's fine" at face value, her actions next episode suggest otherwise.

I really hoped we got a proper heart to heart with Greg here - but leaving it at just "everyone makes mistakes" feels...not enough.
The next episode is titled "Mr. Universe", so Greg's likely to have a major role.

Edited by thatother1dude on Mar 13th 2020 at 8:57:01 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#60384: Mar 13th 2020 at 8:30:04 PM

Man, that episode hit HARD. Holy shit, that hit hard. Steven has had tons of broken bones over the course of the series, which healed magically but I'm sure hurt like hell at the moment, and he has extreme PTSD from everything he went through over the course of the series. The only other series I've ever seen that went this explicit with the serious mental trauma that would logically come with being a Kid Hero is Animorphs.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#60385: Mar 13th 2020 at 8:53:04 PM

I just read a theory that said that one of the reasons Steven was so fucked up without his gem when White pulled it out was because she dropped him like 30 feet, probably breaking multiple bones, and he didn't have instant healing without his Gem. That's why he couldn't even walk.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60386: Mar 13th 2020 at 8:58:16 PM

...Yeah that makes sense.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Mar 13th 2020 at 12:01:08 PM

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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#60387: Mar 13th 2020 at 8:59:06 PM

@Crossover-Enthusiast It's arguable when they became a couple, but they are definitely one by the start of The Movie.

jennytablina jennytablina from Florida Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
jennytablina
#60388: Mar 13th 2020 at 9:43:45 PM

[up] This is another small issue with the time skip being this big + such limited time to actually see where everyone is at. As I did initially think the proposal would come totally out of the left field for Connie - like Steven was purely doing it to be "together forever" in the sort of childish sense he would of envisioned in the early seasons.

I think what doesn't help is we never saw the point at which Steven properly twigged the romance side of things.

While I appreciate they didn't just go the drama route, I also think Connie would of been justified in being upset too, but I guess for sake of time - that additional conflict couldn't really be there.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60389: Mar 13th 2020 at 9:50:25 PM

Steven has had tons of broken bones over the course of the series, which healed magically but I'm sure hurt like hell at the moment
Look at the bones!

Man, but that is one hell of a recontexualizing of events. I wrote during my rewatch that Steven's apparent durability increased from getting knocked out by Ronaldo, to only getting knocked out by Jasper, to standing back up seconds after an impact that cratered stone. Now I'm wondering how much was Steven getting less injurednote  versus him learning to tolerate the pain until he regenerated.

I just read a theory that said that one of the reasons Steven was so fucked up without his gem when White pulled it out was because she dropped him like 30 feet, probably breaking multiple bones, and he didn't have instant healing without his Gem. That's why he couldn't even walk.
Human Steven was standing up straight when we first saw him without his gem, apparently without Connie propping him up. It's more likely White set him down on his feet.

On the other hand, that softball-sized rock to the face in "Coach Steven" that bowled him over? Probably where one of those three skull fractures came from.

Steven: I got hit by a rock.
Sadie: It must not have been a very big rock.
Steven: Well, there's... internal... bleeding. My hurt is on the inside!

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#60390: Mar 13th 2020 at 10:23:21 PM

Eesh, all of those typical Kid Hero tropes are suddenly pretty damn disturbing now...

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#60391: Mar 13th 2020 at 11:10:29 PM

I wish I had a Connie as a friend. Connie has been really understanding and gentle towards Steven despite the shock of being asked for marriage and even went so far as to say yes but not right now. I think many young people in that situation wouldn't of reacted as nicely as that. I can see why Steven's upset though and now his body is reacting strangely, poor guy is not in a good headspace and the PTSD is not helping.

Honestly if the Steven corruption theory is correct this does make me wonder whats going to be the tipping point? I initially thought it'd be him getting soft rejected by Connie but that doesn't seem to be quite the case.

DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#60392: Mar 14th 2020 at 12:38:41 AM

“How do I live life if it always feels like I'm about to die?!?”

I never thought I would hear that a line like that in a kid's cartoon. Wow.

Edited by DS9guy on Mar 14th 2020 at 2:39:12 PM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60393: Mar 14th 2020 at 3:56:17 AM

Unrelated, but here's a friendly reminder not to leave Zero-Context Examples in the recap pages if you happen to edit them

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Mar 14th 2020 at 7:02:11 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60394: Mar 14th 2020 at 7:22:36 AM

It was basically just mentioneded to explain having those X-rays, but I like that Dr. Maheswaran tried to do some medical research on the gems just because.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#60395: Mar 14th 2020 at 7:47:51 AM

At the risk of violating the MST3K Mantra, should Dr. Maheswaran even been the one to examine Steven, given she's the mother of Steven's best/girlfriend?

Then again, as noted [up], she may be the only human doctor to study Gems, making her the only choice.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#60396: Mar 14th 2020 at 7:53:06 AM

> should Dr. Maheswaran even been the one to examine Steven, given she's the mother of Steven's best/girlfriend?

I do get what your saying,. it's just having a new one off character examine Steven probably would have risked making the episode 'very special episode lite'and they probably wanted to avoid that because its about Steven's mental health

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#60397: Mar 14th 2020 at 7:56:35 AM

I get that. If nothing else you'd be introducing a brand new character to play a critical role in a characters story just before the end of said story. Using someone we already know mitigates that. It was just something that stood out to me.

Probably because I recent got hired full time at the place I've been a contractor at. Between the 'Conflict of Interest' part of orientation/training and my workplace being in medical insurance, it probably just made it stick out more.

Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 14th 2020 at 8:59:43 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60398: Mar 14th 2020 at 7:59:16 AM

should Dr. Maheswaran even been the one to examine Steven, given she's the mother of Steven's best/girlfriend?
I’d say that’s disconnected enough to avoid adverse bias.

More to the point, she was (conveniently) available on short notice and may have been working pro bono (remember, no insurance). This whole thing was probably off the books.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#60399: Mar 14th 2020 at 8:19:16 AM

Plus it seems evident that she didn't know about the semi-failed proposal.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60400: Mar 14th 2020 at 11:04:25 AM

That reminds that Steven possibly wanted to become Stevonnie right then and pick up Connie's studies, when there's still no sign that Connie's parents know Stevonnie exists. That may have been one reason Connie never told her mom about the proposal.

On a related note, imagine if when Steven said "I got trapped in a bubbled and almost drowned", he added "that happened to your daughter, too, actually".


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