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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60176: Jan 14th 2020 at 5:08:31 PM

I'm forgetting the exact line, but—

"I have a plane, I could've visited them whenever I wanted!"
I wonder if there's gonna be a parallel between Andy being so hung up on his family drifting apart that he doesn't realize he can see them whenever to, like, Steven being so hung up by Lars leaving that he forgets he can still use Lion to see him whenever.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#60177: Jan 14th 2020 at 7:24:51 PM

If he didn't already say that in the episode, that would've been "something"...

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60178: Jan 16th 2020 at 6:32:02 PM

I wonder if they had Lars go back to space just so you can imagine, however many years in the future, he really does end up at that space bar in Pug Davis.

Gabo352 Since: Jun, 2016
#60179: Jan 21st 2020 at 11:49:15 PM

Wait, did Peedee actually have an arc about being defined by work? as in, was that something he stopped doing?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#60180: Jan 22nd 2020 at 12:17:31 AM

It's his debut episode...

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#60181: Jan 22nd 2020 at 1:26:35 AM

His focus episode had his entire spiel about jobs that sounded like it came straight out of a middle-aged broken-spirited office worker's mouth, but thinking about it Peedee wasn't necessarily defining himself by work, he just thought it was the only/best way to get his father's respect and attention... I think. I should watch that episode again.

Side note, thinking about it more and I just realized that the psyches and thoughts of the human characters were never seriously delved into as much as the Gems. I understand the boardie episodes became the go-to breather later on, but barring certain characters and episodes, what lied under their surface characteristics was almost never touched upon, making them a lot more two-dimensional.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#60182: Jan 22nd 2020 at 1:59:55 AM

Yeah...that's not at all what the episode was about.

Even though he went into a rant about what a taxing job does to a person, the whole conflict with him was that he didn't want to upset his dad by...asking not to be Frybo.

It's not really serious.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60183: Jan 22nd 2020 at 2:57:32 PM

Peedee wasn't necessarily defining himself by work, he just thought it was the only/best way to get his father's respect and attention.
I meant Peedee since "Frybo". When Peedee has to be pulled away from the store to evacuate the town a second time, he's clearly not just thinking of his dad anymore.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 22nd 2020 at 4:26:52 AM

32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#60184: Jan 29th 2020 at 12:30:47 AM

So I finally got around to watching the movie.

I really enjoyed it and the songs were great.

But was it clarified anywhere why Spinal's plan didn't kill a bunch of people?

From what I can tell the plan succeeds. Unless there was meant to be a final step once the poison was in the ground by the gem machine.

Also I have an issue with the fact enough poison to kill all organic life on a planet being in the ground is treated as a non-issue or inconvenience at the end.

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#60185: Jan 29th 2020 at 12:48:22 AM

Deprivation I guess, it'd kill all organic life in the ground directly as well as any sapient thing that touches it directly, but only by proxy kill anything else after all the trees and plants died.

But the reason it didn't kill "anyone" is because they shouldn't have made it explode.

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#60186: Jan 29th 2020 at 2:49:05 AM

The reason it didn't kill everyone is that it needed time to slow drip all the poison deep into the Earth. Spinel just forced all of it into Beach City in one burst, which did a lot of superficial damage, but nothing permanent.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60187: Jan 29th 2020 at 4:23:14 PM

The reason it didn't kill everyone is that it needed time to slow drip all the poison deep into the Earth.
Which must trigger some kind of reaction that makes it way more deadly than it is pure. That's totally the opposite of how dangerous materials work in real life (digging up fossil fuels, heavy metals, and radioactive material brings them into the biosphere), but it's alien technology—how it works is completely arbitrary.

I mean if it was just a matter of spreading the poison far enough, it would need to be orders of magnitude more lethal than what was shown. Forget Greg surviving when some splashes on his arm, if it hit the open air, the vapor would kill everything within a mile.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 29th 2020 at 4:23:52 AM

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#60188: Feb 4th 2020 at 6:05:55 AM

So this is the cover for the End of an Era artbook according to Reddit

link

Edited by Ultimatum on Feb 4th 2020 at 2:08:30 PM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#60190: Feb 9th 2020 at 5:48:35 AM

Catching up on Future made me wonder what happened to that kid with the french fry hair, the one who seemed to be Steven's only normal human friend of the same age.

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#60191: Feb 9th 2020 at 5:52:41 AM

[up] Peedee is his name. And the last time he had any inkling of spotlight he was working at his own french fry business using Dewey's old van

Edited by VengefulBale on Feb 9th 2020 at 7:52:49 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60192: Feb 9th 2020 at 7:29:11 AM

It's especially strange considering he's only the third character they bothered to cast with a young voice actor. I think the crew didn't have any ideas for what to do with him, but were too attached to let him totally become a background character.


On a related note, I'm now questioning if Steven was that outgoing by the beginning of the series. It seems like all his friends were people who worked at the stores he frequented. He actually had no idea who Sour Cream or Buck were, and only knew Jenny as Kiki's sister (presumably because she does deliveries and Steven just walked to Fish Stew Pizza).

VeryVileVillian Since: Dec, 2017
#60193: Feb 9th 2020 at 9:25:40 AM

I've read on Reddit that people speculate if Peedee was supposed to be a love interest for Steven in the early drafts. Sorta how, considering that show is full with leasbian undertones, they thought of adding a male gay romance for variety.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60194: Feb 9th 2020 at 9:29:01 AM

I honestly doubt that, considering the artbook shows Connie (albeit by a different name) in very early drafts for episode ideas.

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#60195: Feb 9th 2020 at 9:35:43 AM

I think he was merely meant to be the Foil of Steven as a regular grumpy cynical guy to Steven's magical optimist and cheerful personality.

But then his VA turned out to be too busy to be a major character I guess, because him having a focus episode very early on the series screamed: "Secondary Character Foil to Steven right here!"

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60196: Feb 9th 2020 at 9:39:43 AM

Well, narratively, "Frybo" did manage to show early on that Steven could have a major positive effect on the lives of the people around him. The side effect was that Peedee's character conflict was over by his introduction.

Edited by thatother1dude on Feb 9th 2020 at 9:39:57 AM

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#60197: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:57:40 AM

I think it's weird that Steven is a vegetarian since he makes sentient plants.

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#60198: Feb 11th 2020 at 4:29:40 PM

It is a little weird,then again he has to eat something,sometimes you have to ignore the nagging fringe logic

Edited by Ultimatum on Feb 11th 2020 at 12:30:02 PM

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alanh Since: May, 2010
#60199: Feb 11th 2020 at 4:44:17 PM

It's Sliding Scale of Anthropomorphism — there's a distinction between plant-plants, and the sapient plants that Steven creates. Though Steven did take a bite of a watermelon Steven's "guts"....

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#60200: Feb 11th 2020 at 4:49:38 PM

And while sapience is obviously in doubt. even plants can be said to be sentient in a certain fashion, when you consider that certain plant processes, like the situational release of volatile compounds in response to certain stimuli (e.g. light, injury, cold), are similar to animal senses.


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