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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60151: Jan 10th 2020 at 8:35:08 PM

I remembered the movie artbook was something I already paid for, and now find out it has a date (March 3rd) and what appears to be an actual cover (previously it just showed the movie's logo on a black background).

"End of an Era", another artbook covering the rest of the show, has its date listed as July 28. That gives some limit for how long Future will be, though even that is subject to change.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 10th 2020 at 10:42:41 AM

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#60153: Jan 11th 2020 at 8:12:45 PM

We have a leak thread. I would love to discuss that

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#60154: Jan 11th 2020 at 8:26:52 PM

On the fence if I should listen... Without going too much into it, is it a song, character dialog, what?

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#60155: Jan 11th 2020 at 8:34:58 PM

Dialogue. Very interesting dialogue with some really sweet BGM.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60156: Jan 11th 2020 at 9:20:38 PM

Mmm... Think I'll pass, then, at least for now. This better not be a long hiatus...

File name is pretty interesting though. Implications of there being another leaked clip aside, if it is from the finale, then that means Future's production is either complete or nearing completion.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Jan 11th 2020 at 12:23:47 PM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60157: Jan 11th 2020 at 9:31:09 PM

I think the name is being tongue-in-cheek. The contents are not especially surprising, and I doubt it's from the finale.

And the audio is very clearly unfinished—it's voice recording and music without sound effects or fill-in audio (grunts or similar). The former is done a year or more in advance of airing, so even though it was uploaded it November 30th, that doesn't mean the episode it's from is almost done.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 11th 2020 at 11:36:29 AM

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#60158: Jan 11th 2020 at 10:51:07 PM

That's fair. Like I said, I haven't listened to it, only read the file information.

...wait, where are you getting November 30th? The file says it was uploaded on the 12th.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60159: Jan 12th 2020 at 1:53:36 AM

The linked post is not the original source. The original was on a site called dbree.org and has November 30th as a “created on” date.


The background music was likely added by the leaker, as it’s way too loud compared to the dialogue (which as previously stated is an early recording).

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 12th 2020 at 4:15:50 AM

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#60160: Jan 12th 2020 at 10:02:45 AM

The dbree link says it was posted on the 12th on my end.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60161: Jan 12th 2020 at 10:22:07 AM

This is the page. Are you sure you're not looking at the "Last Download" date or a reupload?

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#60162: Jan 12th 2020 at 11:02:20 AM

Oop, I was looking at a reupload. My mistake!

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#60163: Jan 14th 2020 at 7:07:17 AM

Can't wait to see Emo Steven stop being... well, Emo Steven.

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#60164: Jan 14th 2020 at 7:50:15 AM

I was pretty sure there was an "Angsty Teenager" trope somewhere, which Steven's current characterization fits pretty well - but the closest I can find is Emo Teen, which has a number of external characteristics that Steven lacks.

[down]Those are exactly the "external characteristics" I meant. Also since his hair is naturally black, we don't know whether he dyed it. ;)

[down][down]Yeah, you're right, it's brown, it's just that kind of dark brown that looks black when there isn't excessive light on it.

Edited by Snicka on Jan 14th 2020 at 10:20:00 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#60165: Jan 14th 2020 at 7:52:26 AM

Steven is not an emo!he's not dyed his hair black or started writing bad poetry

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#60166: Jan 14th 2020 at 10:19:20 AM

[up][up] His hair is brown, not black.

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DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#60167: Jan 14th 2020 at 12:14:09 PM

No matter how you look at it, Steven. Needs. Help.

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#60168: Jan 14th 2020 at 12:22:45 PM

I had this weird idea that Steven will somehow turn into a baby again permanently,only he'll be fully human with all of the trauma from his past life gone.

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#60169: Jan 14th 2020 at 12:34:02 PM

I really don't want Steven to ever turn fully human. Feel like it's a cheap way to solve his identity problems

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#60170: Jan 14th 2020 at 12:38:25 PM

I agree it 'feels' cheap but how it happens could be totally surprising,there was suggestion on Reddit that the events of the movie effectively reset his Gem to pre Pink Diamond character development so everything he's experiencing his exactly what his mother went through

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
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#60171: Jan 14th 2020 at 12:58:03 PM

I don't really like that explanation either. Why can't Steven feel something independent of his mother? Teenage years are hard. The implication that Steven's only angsting because of his gem seems to contradict the message that Steven isn't Pink.

Edited by PhiSat on Jan 14th 2020 at 1:58:29 PM

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#60172: Jan 14th 2020 at 1:17:16 PM

Yeah, a normal human put through that much trauma would have some issues to work through. Hi gem just makes the impact of those emotions even more troublesome

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#60173: Jan 14th 2020 at 2:52:42 PM

To chime in on this. Steven's issues I think are the fact he is the only half human/half diamond in existence which would be inherently lonely and frustrating to deal with simply because he doesn't fit in either realm completely. Of course their is the obvious fact he inherited a lot of his mothers issues which wasn't something any kid should of been forced into. On top of all that before Future Steven was emotional support for most the adults around him (and his teen friends) to the point that he is so ingrained into doing that that he can't see himself doing anything else. Which is pretty much why he is upset that He feels the need to be needed.

Oh yeah and Steven is a teenager and its pretty obvious his human hormones and emotionally influenced diamond powers are not mixing well. I don't think his gem is inherently causing the angsting more likely the poor kids hormones are going nuts which happens with all teenagers (but he has the extra problem of it activating his powers in volatile ways), mental scars from nearly getting killed many times, and far too many responsibilities being lumped on him at a young age took a toll.

I am seeing quite a few parallels between the Diamonds and him though but I am pretty sure that is likely a result of the poor kid needing some therapy and being alone emotionally. It's worth noting that Steven started treating Cactus Steven like how White treated Pink or how Pink treated Spinel. He also seems to have a similar coping mechanism to his mother as she also had a garden back when she was a diamond.

It's rather sad how he is starting to repeat some of their mistakes but what people seem to be forgetting is that Steven is still a teenager atm and can grow out of it.

Edited by Wispy on Jan 14th 2020 at 3:04:32 AM

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#60174: Jan 14th 2020 at 3:36:36 PM

Still, this Steven feels like someone who probably listens to Simple Plan while he's gardening and sings along.

(Although I would actually like to see that)

Edited by Smasher on Jan 14th 2020 at 6:40:07 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#60175: Jan 14th 2020 at 4:18:25 PM

It's funny that Steven is running into problems shared by other characters who seemed the exact opposite of him. Defining oneself by work, accepting loved ones moving on, and admitting to anxiety are all things Peedee, Andy, and Lars, respectively, have suffered from.


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