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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#59876: Dec 7th 2019 at 5:57:09 PM

Love the new episode title card, too.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#59877: Dec 7th 2019 at 6:00:59 PM

I get the feeling that the Sins of the Mother will be a recurring theme this season.

These are certainly an interesting batch of episodes.

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#59878: Dec 7th 2019 at 6:15:00 PM

Two things:

I was right!

These batch of episodes strongly indicate that monster in the credits is corrupted steven.

Edited by jjjj2 on Dec 7th 2019 at 9:15:11 AM

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#59879: Dec 7th 2019 at 6:26:01 PM

Ian JQ as Snowflake was surprising, but kind of amusing. And yay, Andy cameo!

So Crab Gem is Bixbite, neat...but then where the hell did Quidd get Aventurine from?

And ahh, I loved Pearl^2's scene at the end! Pearl and Pink Pearl come from two sides of the same coin, belonging to and being with the same person at two completely different points in her life, and that scene just highlighted it so well! I guess this also confirms that Pink got her act together when Pink Pearl was taken away, but did White take control after Pink broke P. Pearl? Or did that happen later?

And if Smoky's time slow comes from Steven, I guess that answers how he's gonna get around in "A Very Special Episode".

[up] How do you figure?

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jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#59880: Dec 7th 2019 at 6:30:28 PM

He's constantly getting angry and holding things back. When he let's out his anger he glows pink. It's indicative that he's gonna hold back too much and then explode at some point.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#59881: Dec 7th 2019 at 6:44:34 PM

Frankly I'd look towards the "your damage is psychological" scene if we're talking about Steven corrupting. Going back to Pink Mode itself, though, it's brought on by anger (mostly); those emotions are definitely going to erupt at some point, but there's not much suggesting anything will physically happen to Steven when it does.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#59882: Dec 7th 2019 at 6:53:30 PM

Though "Volleyball" and Pink Steven's outburst in Change Your Mind did put some heavy foreshadowing for such an event being catastrophic regardless of what happens.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Dec 7th 2019 at 6:53:48 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#59883: Dec 7th 2019 at 6:58:54 PM

Stuff from the credits:

  • So far Paul Villeco and Lamar Abrams are the only storyboard artists returning from the original series (though as previously detailed, many of the others stayed around with different positions). Part of me still wishes these just aired weekly for proper time to breathe, but four episodes is good because that's usually how many different storyboard duos the show has at a time.
  • As Crossover-Enthusiast previously stated, Hilary Florido is now the storyboard supervisor.
  • While "featured voices" for the original was always the main four (Sarah Stiles also got first-page billing in the movie), it now includes Shelby Rabara as Peridot. That means she too gets credited in every episode, even if she isn't there at all.
  • Those two other quartzes Michael Dietz voiced are Ocean Jasper and Blue Lace Agate.
  • Snowflake Obsidian is Ian Jones-Quartey. Larimar is Michelle Maryk.
  • The credits call the different Rose Quartzes "Superfan Rose", "Shy Rose", and "Hippie Rose". Kimberly Brooks voices all of them (but Susan Egan is credited for the tape playing again).
  • The official name for Pearl and Volleyball's fusion? Mega Pearl
  • Neither "Guidance" nor "Volleyball" specify which Rubies those were.
  • The two quartzes that spoke were Angel Aura Quartz and Zebra Jasper
  • Voice directing for the vast majority of previous episodes was by Kent Osborne. Kristi Reed, the casting director for the movie, kept that same position and also took over voice directing (the movie doesn't have a "voice director" credit; Rebecca Sugar may have done that herself as director).
  • We've gonna have to wait for VOD to hear the new ending theme, but it's called "Being Human", and it has lyrics sung by Emily King.

It seems Future is notably different production-wise than the original series or even the movie. There's definitely continuity, but even positions held by the same person for years change.


Amazon Video is selling the "first season" of Future for $20. That is the same price as most 13 half hours of a show, but then Amazon Video has a track record of selling seasons without standardized numbers of episodes. Most of the "seasons" for Steven Universe on Amazon Video are $15 (except 1a, which is $10), even though they vary from 10 half hours to 14.

Edited by thatother1dude on Dec 8th 2019 at 10:40:41 AM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#59884: Dec 7th 2019 at 7:12:00 PM

The credits call the different Rose Quartzes "Superfan Rose", "Shy Rose", and "Hippie Rose". Susan Egan indeed voices all of them.

Oh, wow, Susan's got some range!

The captions referred to Shy Rose by that name, but I don't think it did so for the other two. Good to know Hippie Rose was a hippie before being a hippie was a thing, though! [lol]

The official name for Pearl and Volleyball's fusion? Mega Pearl

I still prefer Pearl^2. Though her name makes me wonder... wild mass guess are other Pearl fusions in the cards? 'Cause you know, mega, ultra, giga?

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#59885: Dec 7th 2019 at 7:29:27 PM

These episodes were so fun!

I loved seeing Jasper again, and her interactions with Steven were so fun. Also I love how the first two eps were chill, the third ep delved into some baggage and got uncomfortable but in a hilarious way, and the fourth ep brought on so much sad. Poor Pink Pearl. Er, Volleyball?

Steven really should be more concerned about the Pink Steven power....

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#59886: Dec 7th 2019 at 7:30:00 PM

[up][up][up] You sure? I think Army was in "Vollyball" getting healed by Dr. Universe.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Dec 7th 2019 at 7:31:59 AM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#59887: Dec 7th 2019 at 7:46:18 PM

[up] I thought that was the hand Ruby from "The Answer".

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#59888: Dec 7th 2019 at 7:57:31 PM

@Crossover-Enthusiast: Actually, I misread the credits—Egan is not the real Rose Quartzes, she's only in the credits because of stock audio from the video tape. The real Rose Quartzes are all voiced by Kimberly Brooks, like about half of the other Quartzes.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#59889: Dec 7th 2019 at 8:05:47 PM

Oh. Well, Kimberly's got some range, then.

I find it funny how she wasn't voicing anyone for most of SU's run, and now she's voicing like half the cast in Future.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Dec 7th 2019 at 11:06:07 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#59890: Dec 7th 2019 at 8:11:44 PM

I think Army was in "Vollyball" getting healed by Dr. Universe.
[up] I thought that was the hand Ruby from "The Answer".
The Ruby that Steven healed this episode has her gem on the back of her left forearm. That does not match the two other Rubies from "The Answer" (back of upper right arm and back of right palm), Army (side of left shoulder), or even any of the Rubies at the party in "Together Alone".

And I just meant the credits don't specify if those are Rubies we've seen before. They just credit Charlyne Yi as voicing "Ruby".

I find it funny how she wasn't voicing anyone for most of SU's run, and now she's voicing like half the cast in Future.
They're really getting a lot of mileage out of gems sharing voice actors when it comes to background characters.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#59891: Dec 7th 2019 at 8:58:05 PM

We've got some stuff to do on the character pages, mostly the "Little Homeworld" one:

  • The "uncorrupted quartzes" folder should group together all the quartzes besides Jasper, and include a caption the group picture specifying which is which.
  • Topaz and Jasper should arguably be filed under Little Homeworld as well now (though for Jasper that just means a "reference" tab). It's not clear where Volleyball is staying, so just leave her in "Homeworld Gems".
  • The "Gem Fusions" page is split into "Crystal Gems Fusions" and "Other Fusions". Steg is in the former while Mega Pearl is in the latter, but they should logically be in the same section (whichever that is).

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#59892: Dec 7th 2019 at 10:37:38 PM

Here's the outro. Sounds a lot more incomplete than LLL first did, though that might be because it starts off with lyrics.

Also that does not sound like Rebecca. Who's singing this?

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#59893: Dec 7th 2019 at 11:24:50 PM

Haven't watched the episodes yet. But I think it's clever that Kimberly Brooks plays the real Rose Quartzes (like she does with Jasper, Cherry, Carnelian etc.), to play on the fact that Steven's mother, voiced by Susan Egan, is not a real Rose Quartz.

FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#59894: Dec 7th 2019 at 11:53:22 PM

"Pink Diamond fucked me over" is starting to feel like this show's equivalent of "A firebender killed my parents".

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#59895: Dec 7th 2019 at 11:57:38 PM

Well at least Volleyball wasn't "I'm going to ruin everything" mad about it.

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Pachylad (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#59896: Dec 8th 2019 at 12:53:52 AM

Me: oof, pity about Lapidot and the toxic history it's had within the fandom... well I'm glad I have THIS other ship that will never be toyed around with by the show! SU:F: I'm about to end this whole fan's fantasy.

brb bracing myself for the inevitable Spinearl vs Volleypearl (... that's what we're calling it right?) war(s)

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Pachylad (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#59898: Dec 8th 2019 at 1:22:48 AM

Tell that to the Amedot vs. Lapidot whippers still raging on tongue

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#59899: Dec 8th 2019 at 4:00:04 AM

[shipping] Wars,wars never change

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jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One Who Knows Many Things
#59900: Dec 8th 2019 at 6:02:52 AM

So... Am I the only one who's slightly bothered that it wasn't showed if Pink Pearl/Volleyball's left eye was healed or not at the end of "Volleyball"?

I assure you, I'm perfectly trustable person

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