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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#58876: Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:00:58 PM

Honestly I think what Pink did to Spinel might be the worst thing she's done. The other stuff I can at least understand her rationale, but this was just a massive dick move.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#58877: Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:07:11 PM

Spinel is basically a psychotic version of Jessie from Toy Story, even her song reminds me of "When She Loved Me".

Edited by firewriter on Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:07:26 AM

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#58879: Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:17:13 PM

I also like how the initial trailers were totally misleading.

The whole "everyone gets amnesia" plotline which makes up the bulk of the movie was impossible to guess based on them.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#58880: Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:22:47 PM

[up][up]

Yeah, I have seen it used for Pearl, but now it's even more fitting for Spinel.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#58881: Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:24:56 PM

The whole "everyone gets amnesia" plotline which makes up the bulk of the movie was impossible to guess based on them.
It's a hell of first-act twist, though I figured Spinel would be physically beaten quickly but leave the Injector behind as a threat—because otherwise how is she going to do anything observable from Steven's perspective?

GlitterCat Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#58883: Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:55:25 PM

I kinda like drift away. While I had guessed spinel was angry about not going with pink on adventures I didn't expect the song to make me empathize with her so much.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#58884: Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:56:38 PM

"In other words, Pink's kind of a bitch.

"

Yeah, the moment it was reveal rose is pink it was kinda based to happen, diamond are pretty shitty in general.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#58885: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:05:22 PM

It really seems like Rose never quite got just how seriously Gems took orders from Diamonds like her. Along with not thinking things through. It's like how she ordered Pearl to never speak of the truth again, with dire consequences.

So Spinel's basically a Toon in Gem form? Reminds me a bit of Marvel's Slapstick or Skullgirl's Peacock.

Edited by M84 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 11:06:56 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#58886: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:07:18 PM

“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

Pink missed the last half of this quote, possibly because she was a Diamond and not a man but more likely because it was said nearly six thousand years after she already put away childish things.

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#58887: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:15:36 PM

I think the thing with Rose/Pink is that because of the distant treatment of her sisters and her position as Diamond distancing her from others, she convinced herself she didn't really matter.

And free from her responsibilities, she began acting out her desires, never really connecting the dots to how others did care (even the Diamonds) and how her actions affected them.

Selfishness born out of self-loathing.

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#58888: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:15:56 PM

i really dug how Spinel was animated like a classic cartoon, while still fitting in with the more modern art style of the show.

Estelle continues to be the best part of the show. "True Kinda Love" was my favorite song; the only one that even came close was "Independent Together", but it came really damn close.

my roommate and i are both convinced Steg's initial appearance was a JoJo reference. Steg is probably my favorite design in the whole show thus far.

i really hope Steven gets to have a conversation with Pink somehow. even if it's not real, i think it would be good for the kid to just shout at her for a while. she definitely deserves it.

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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58889: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:15:58 PM

[up][up][up][up]I think that's very intentional as not only does she have the 20/30s rubber hose look, but Other Friends honestly sounds like something that could have come out of a Fleischer Bros cartoon.

Edited by BigMadDraco on Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:17:25 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#58890: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:19:12 PM

[up][up]He already did that with Cloud Rose.

[up]I am also reminded of Cuphead now.

Edited by M84 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 11:21:16 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#58891: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:20:08 PM

Aivi Tran posted a fully credited song list.

Interestingly, Aimee Mann (Opal) sang part of "Independent Together", but contributed to the lyrics and music of "Drift Away". Ted Leo (Steg), on the other hand, did all three for "Independent Together".

So, favorite songs from the movie?
Mine are "Other Friends" and are "Who We Are". The first because Spinel is hilarious when she's angry, and I like electro swing. The second because Aduba's delivery gives it such an unbelievable gravitas—like it was an actual national anthem or something.

Reminds me a bit of Marvel's Slapstick or Skullgirl's Peacock.
I thought of Peacock as well, though it's a nice twist that Spinel was supposed to be the more genuinely charming kind.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#58892: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:20:52 PM

I really loved "Other Friends." But I also loved "Isn't It Love?" and "True Kinda Love."

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#58893: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:22:34 PM

my roommate and i are both convinced Steg's initial appearance was a Jo Jo reference.
His pompadour is similar to Josuke's, the hairstyle more generally fits Steg's kind of rocker personality.

MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#58894: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:22:36 PM

[up]x6 The more we learn of Pink, the more I wish she could exist as a separate character independent of Steven. She left so much behind her when she chose to have Steven, and the poor guy just inherited all of it.

I find Pink/Rose to be a really fascinating character, because what we know of her past as Pink and her time as Rose says to me that she had genuine capacity for growth like the humans she admired so much.

She's quite possibly the most human-like of all the gems seen in the show out of the gate, but she ultimately cut all her potential short to let Steven have experience life and left a millenia old mess for others to try and piece together.

Edited by MrSeyker on Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:23:02 AM

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#58895: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:22:40 PM

Other Friends was really good too.

how does the reset scythe thingy fit in with the series lore? in the past, the only things we've seen Diamonds do to punish Gems is either poofing or shattering, right? unless you count them "grounding" Pink.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#58896: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:23:34 PM

[up][up]But like Pink Steven said, she’s goooone.

Edited by M84 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 11:23:55 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#58897: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:24:01 PM

I loved "Other Friends" because I'm a sucker for a good Villain Song

So a Freeze-Frame Bonus people have nocticed, Rose's chest is opened.

Edited by dmysta3000 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 11:25:49 AM

GUNDAMU GUNDAMU
BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58898: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:24:20 PM

It could be for corner cases where a gem is both essential and rare, but also exhibiting deviant behavior.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#58899: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:27:58 PM

in the past, the only things we've seen Diamonds do to punish Gems is either poofing or shattering, right?
Poofing isn't really a punishment, it's more of a means to capture someone.

The Amethysts being sent to the Zoo to face Holly Blue Agate's abuse was another form of punishment—concept art even compared it to reform school.

It could be for corner cases where a gem is both essential and rare, but also exhibiting deviant behavior.
The rejuvenator may have also been abandoned once they discovered its effect can be reversed.

Or maybe because it seems to work exactly as well on freaking Diamonds—though it might just be because Steven's still weaker.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#58900: Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:36:26 PM

Originally I had mixed feelings about the movie but when I started to think of it as a mini-series that was converted into a movie, I liked it a lot more. I don't think that's actually what happened but that's just sort of the feeling I get from it.

This song needs more love.

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