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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#57801: Jan 21st 2019 at 11:02:08 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] Let Sugilite break the fourth wall 2k19

[up] She used it in "Room For Ruby".

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TheWhiteWolf (ON INDEFINITE HIATUS) from the Restaurant at the End of the Universe Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
(ON INDEFINITE HIATUS)
#57802: Jan 22nd 2019 at 12:14:34 AM

[up][up] Explains the Animation Bump Seriously, that was fluid as hell.

She/they. Hirrus Clutumnus is my comfort character
dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57803: Jan 22nd 2019 at 1:25:57 AM

Though I'm a bit worried about the apparent Post-Script Season S6 will be, I am excited to see where things go from here.

Maybe the movie will tie into it somehow?

GUNDAMU GUNDAMU
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57804: Jan 22nd 2019 at 2:36:59 AM

Just finished the last episode, and while I was quite happy with most of it I agree with everyone that White Diamond's redemption felt rather rushed, mainly because she was not around as a villain long for it to be understandable. Did they ever reveal what was inside the chest in Lion's mane?

Also Peridot now has Kamina's glasses, and Pearl is wearing her Bad Pearl jacket. Heh.

damage3245 Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#57805: Jan 22nd 2019 at 2:41:33 AM

That was the most intense and terrifying episode of a cartoon show that I've seen in years.

TheWhiteWolf (ON INDEFINITE HIATUS) from the Restaurant at the End of the Universe Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
(ON INDEFINITE HIATUS)
#57806: Jan 22nd 2019 at 2:51:46 AM

i loved lapis's aladdin pants

She/they. Hirrus Clutumnus is my comfort character
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57807: Jan 22nd 2019 at 2:54:23 AM

As do I although the sandals look a bit odd. Maybe if they were also blue.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#57808: Jan 22nd 2019 at 3:00:20 AM

I like the idea of the next villains/arc revolving around people from other worlds the diamonds have colonized, primarily because it would be a great way to address the fact that the Diamonds, regardless of changing their attitudes towards one another, still were responsible for immense destruction of life and barely understand or care about anything that isn't themselves; they don't even care about gemkind as anything other than cogs in a machine, with maybe the exceptions of their individual pearls. Just because you changed your mindset/attitude doesn't mean that your prior actions are devoid of consequences.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57809: Jan 22nd 2019 at 3:05:05 AM

Agreed. If they do that then I can forgive them rushing through White's redemption more easily.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#57810: Jan 22nd 2019 at 3:10:40 AM

Amazon's release of "Change Your Mind" has the correct credits.

Alastair James voices Rainbow Quartz while Sunstone is voiced by Shoniqua Shandai.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57811: Jan 22nd 2019 at 3:13:05 AM

I really loved White's redemption. Her presence as a villain was amazing, but she's still a person. Her ultimate devotion to being perfect and flawless was actually her downfall, because it made her extremely shallow as a person. White Diamond didn't have wants or needs of her own, and that absolute devotion to flawlessness made her incredibly hard but also incredibly brittle once she saw something that conclusively proved her wrong. When Steven asked what White's excuse was for acting like a child, her excuse is that she has denied herself any character growth whatsoever, so personality-wise, she's more blank than a brand new canvas.

Like Blue said, the Diamonds are hard but brittle, and that's a great metaphor for explaining everything about them. They're unbelievably hard to get through to, but once you do, their self-image shatters with ease. Same goes for their work. They can keep going almost endlessly, but they have insecurities and stress just like anyone else, they just hide their insecurities deep down, never letting anyone else see or know until someone manages to break them, when they come flooding out. There was a lot of metaphor speak in this episode, between that, the Pork Chop/Hot Dog line, Connie mentioning her mom, as well as a host of other bits that I'm sure I missed.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jan 22nd 2019 at 4:38:06 AM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#57812: Jan 22nd 2019 at 3:27:28 AM

I'm catching up right now. In the middle of Familiar at the moment.

It's been fun.
ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#57813: Jan 22nd 2019 at 4:24:23 AM

White's turn was quick as her primary motivation was shown to be actually shallow. She was defined as being perfect and that's it. Like Rose said in Greg the Babysitter, she popped out of the ground knowing her role. She is actually the most gemlike as she didn't form any other personality outside of her life objective. So once that got overturned, she was easier to talk to and convince.

White's perfect stance does make CG Pearl's obsession with perfection come off as creepy now. I honestly thought they would reveal CG Pearl to be White Pearl.

Edited by ObligatorySarcasm on Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:17:35 AM

-Witty line-
TheWhiteWolf (ON INDEFINITE HIATUS) from the Restaurant at the End of the Universe Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
(ON INDEFINITE HIATUS)
#57814: Jan 22nd 2019 at 4:33:33 AM

[up] might wanna fix that

She/they. Hirrus Clutumnus is my comfort character
32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#57815: Jan 22nd 2019 at 4:58:22 AM

I also just caught up.

Man, that finale was a wild ride.

3 new fusions!!! Also loved everyones new designs.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57816: Jan 22nd 2019 at 4:59:52 AM

Did Lapis fuse Peridot yet?

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#57817: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:00:17 AM

@White Wolf: To be honest, your avatar is at least as spoilery.

Also, they basically did confirm Crystal Pearl as White Pearl, though the question of why - and what happened to Pink Pearl's eye - still remains.

Also, interesting to have Pink's power confirmed as... the power of shame, I guess?

Otherwise, wow, that was sure a finale. Some interesting bits, I absolutely loved Obsidian, and not nearly enough Peridot and Lapis and I swear they kept them separated by Bismuth on purpose damnit, but I'm really interested in seeing where they could go with the movie after this.

Edited by RedSavant on Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:01:11 AM

It's been fun.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57818: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:15:01 AM

I wonder if we'll ever see a Peridot/Lapis/Bismuth fusion. I imagine Peridot/Lapis would have to come first, but there's time for that.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#57819: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:16:56 AM

@PushoverMediaCritic: I do like the specifics of how Steven got through to White Diamond, he roused the emotions she thought she'd long since excised, and demonstrated her own imperfection to her, but I don't like how quickly it happened; IMO it would have been better if they had ended this with Steven managing to break White's control over the Diamonds and Crystal Gems and then had the Diamonds help our heroes escape back to Earth but falling back under WD's control in the process (or one/both of them could end up stuck on Earth with the CGs, giving us the basis, then season 6 could deal with Steven's guilt over leaving Blue/Yellow and all the other Homeworld Gems behind, silently suffering, building up to Steven returning to Homeworld to confront White Diamond a second time, with Steven genuinely questioning if White Diamond even has emotions to appeal to, and contemplating whether his only option might be to fight.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:20:44 AM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#57820: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:17:45 AM

I mean, I can't really complain. I got Peridot in Gurren Lagann sunglasses and SET YOUR EYES UPON ME, HOMEWORLD, so I'm satisfied for now.

^Pacing-wise for the finale specifically, yeah, probably. But I don't think Steven could have broken the Diamond-washing without going all-out, so it would either have ended up downplaying White's power for the penultimate finale, or blown Steven's trump card for the actual finale.

Edit: Also, was it just me, or did we get a lot of Green Diamond shipping in this episode?

Edited by RedSavant on Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:20:17 AM

It's been fun.
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#57821: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:20:02 AM

Huh... so... I'm not sure how to interpret White turning pink at the end. Does this suggest that she has been a very pale pink diamond and not a white one all along? Or that Steven had the power to change her colour in some way?

That moment where Steven's gem-self yelled "She's GONE"? Damn, that was an effective bit of storytelling...

Edited by LoniJay on Jan 22nd 2019 at 11:20:22 PM

Be not afraid...
ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#57822: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:20:21 AM

Sorry about that post issue, everyone. I didn't realize that each paragraph needs its own mark-up.

-Witty line-
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57823: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:22:34 AM

> I wonder if we'll ever see a Peridot/Lapis/Bismuth fusion. I imagine Peridot/Lapis would have to come first, but there's time for that.

That's what I was hoping for,the series final is where you'd expect something like that to happen

but maybe that's why it hasn't happened yet,it's too obvious so they want to go for something else

Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 22nd 2019 at 1:24:10 PM

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#57824: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:22:53 AM

@Savant: It could also work if he only manages to get some of them back, and only because, as White Diamond said, she's spreading herself thin by possessing so many gems at once; having to leave our Pearl behind would be rough; White doesn't make the same mistake during the finale, and poofs and bubbles the "extraneous" Gems under her control when Steven makes his return.

As far as Green Diamond stuff, eh; it still feels more like the Chromatic Diamonds are siblings, moreso than ever before after this since WD literally tells them all to go to their rooms when she catches them helping Steven escape; Yellow seems to be the oldest sibling, fiercely protective of her younger siblings, particularly blue, who seems to suffer a bit of the Middle Child Syndrome, and who in turn is emotionally dependent on Pink.

@Loni: I think the hint to what's happening comes from White's comments about how Pink is a part of her that she has to keep repressed; that's not just a metaphor; a leading theory about the relationship between white and the other Diamonds is that she's like Father from FMA wherein she created the chromatic Diamonds from her own discarded emotions in an effort to become "more pure", but she wasn't as thorough as she thought, and Steven was able to stir some vestiges of the emotions associated with Pink Diamond, thereby exposing White Diamond's remaining impurity.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:40:40 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57825: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:30:03 AM

Regarding White turning pink at the end.

I don't think it was any power. Steven just embarrassed her with his sick burn and she blushed, which rippled throughout her own power, causing her and everything she controlled to take on a very light pink hue, off-color from white. Still an important moment, as the only reason that Steven's burn had such an impact is because White was throwing a tantrum in response to being proven wrong. It was probably the first and only time anyone ever embarrassed White before, and it had a profound emotional resonance within her, shattering her image of herself as flawless and infallible.

[up]Also this. Both of these things, together.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:30:56 AM


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