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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#57676: Jan 20th 2019 at 10:37:56 AM

[up] Garnet didn't find out about Pearl's tricks when they fused into Sardonyx so I think her secret would be safe.

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#57677: Jan 20th 2019 at 10:43:13 AM

And the temple doesn't have Rose's gem.

Actually I'm pretty sure the glass above the Temple door is engraved in the shape of Rose's gem.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57678: Jan 20th 2019 at 1:48:19 PM

The statue has the same wild hair, and number of arms.
Alexandrite has spiky hair and six arms. The statue has curly hair and eight arms (counting the three broken ones).

Also Alexandrite back then wouldn't have had sunglasses because Garnet didn't either.
Garnet didn't have glasses right when she was first formed, but the group shot from "Your Mother and Mine" suggest she had them before the war ended, even if it can't be taken literally.

On the flip side, we've seen enough of Steven, Connie, Ruby, and Sapphire to know that they don't gain total knowledge of the other, so maybe I'm overthinking.
"Cry for Help" made it explicit fusing doesn't even transfer all currently relevant knowledge between the parts, though it's unknown what the fusion knows. Plus, if Rose fusing risk giving her identity away to her partner, why could Pearl fuse with Garnet and Amethyst without that same problem?

Actually I'm pretty sure the glass above the Temple door is engraved in the shape of Rose's gem.
Yes, and the Beach House really does obscure it.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 20th 2019 at 3:56:38 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#57679: Jan 20th 2019 at 4:29:02 PM

So she has fused with them? The only Rose fusion I know of was Rainbow Quartz and I don't remember hearing if she fused with the others.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#57680: Jan 20th 2019 at 4:41:24 PM

Smoky knows what kind of gem they are because "Amethyst knows", which made me think there was an Amethyst and Rose fusion.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57681: Jan 20th 2019 at 5:34:42 PM

So she has fused with them?
We don't know, I'm just saying nothing was stopping her.

[up]People have interpreted that line in different ways.

sabrina_diamond iSanity! from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
#57682: Jan 20th 2019 at 6:03:38 PM

I just had a random thought: If Pink Diamond's his mum, does it mean that the other Diamonds are considered "aunties" to Steven?

(in Domestic Family sitcom style...)

Yellow Diamond: You can call me Auntie!

Steven: Wait, does that mean ALL the diamonds are my aunties? Yellow Diamond: YES. Ignore the Crystal Gems, Steven.

Blue Diamond: (dramatic sigh) Does that mean we will have to treat him as family? Yellow Diamond: Guess so, welcome to our family, kiddo!

(laugh track continues into infinity...) Steven: Can I bring Cookie-Cat also? YD: Sure!

Edited by sabrina_diamond on Jan 21st 2019 at 1:11:29 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57683: Jan 20th 2019 at 6:34:48 PM

does it mean that the other Diamonds are considered "aunties" to Steven?
Fans pretty immediately started calling Blue and Yellow his aunts, and White his grandma. Even in the show, Steven does call them "family", though he's not more specific than that.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 20th 2019 at 8:35:30 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57684: Jan 20th 2019 at 7:22:50 PM

Ian JQ's promo for "Change Your Mind".

I lists all 12 storyboard artists: the "regular" eight storyboard artists, three supervisory staff (Johnston, Morris, and Sugar), and one guest boarder (Jones-Quartey).

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 20th 2019 at 9:25:54 AM

sabrina_diamond iSanity! from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
#57685: Jan 20th 2019 at 9:02:13 PM

A few more questions: When the Gems fuse using Fusion Dance, do the synced Gems retain their own minds, or do they have to co-ordinate their attacks? Because that might be difficult if one Gem is refusing to cooperate while being fused (ala Malachite). I feel sad for the Cluster because the gems are all fused together for eternity as a type of Hive Mind, aka a radio that never keeps quiet.

Do the actual gems on the Gem's body act as their minds or their bodies? Because if Pink Diamond is not currently active (I assume PD's in her gem-state), that means that she could hear in a two-way radio about Steven's adventures, or have a few monologues to herself mentally.

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#57686: Jan 20th 2019 at 9:36:30 PM

Pretty sure it's been shown in-show that Fusions have the minds of both themselves and their components, with the Fusion's mind at the forefront unless the fusees get desynced.

For any of those have a Reddit, here's a reminder that the Crewiverse are hosting an AMA later today at 2 PM EST.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57687: Jan 21st 2019 at 12:04:28 AM

When fused together, the individual minds can remain independent if they fight each other, but otherwise they quickly fade into the mind of the fused Gem - who has the knowledge and memories of both but is her own person. Neither Ruby nor Sapphire are strictly conscious within Garnet, for example: she's not the two of them coordinating together, she's just Garnet.

By far, my favorite way of showing this in the series is how in "Stronger Than You," Garnet goes from using "we" to refer to herself in the beginning of the song, to using "I" in the latter half - something that recurs whenever she's either fresh from fusing or in danger of splitting apart). But it's stated quite a few times beyond that.

The cluster most likely isn't unified in this way because each Gem that makes it up is a broken chaotic mess. The first mutant we ever see shows us each Gem screaming and scrabbling to separate themselves, but instead lumping together into a twisted, confused monstrosity. Imagine that, but tons of them.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 21st 2019 at 12:08:24 PM

sabrina_diamond iSanity! from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
#57688: Jan 21st 2019 at 2:02:42 AM

Thanks for answering my first question, but what about my 2nd question?

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#57689: Jan 21st 2019 at 2:08:51 AM

When they're poofed, whether they're the body or the mind seems to be a distinction without a difference. I don't recall whether Amethyst and the others were conscious of what was going on while they were poofed, but Pink isn't poofed. Steven's not just a boy with a Gem stuck in his stomach wall; he's a hybrid, and we don't know enough about the rules of his body to say whether Pink is conscious. I doubt it, and I also doubt she's ever coming back. Maybe once Steven dies?

Edited by RedSavant on Jan 21st 2019 at 5:09:57 AM

It's been fun.
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#57690: Jan 21st 2019 at 2:13:15 AM

[up]Considering that Steven ages at will, I don't think he can die in any way that would leave his gem intact.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57691: Jan 21st 2019 at 4:22:05 AM

Alternate “Change Your Mind” promo by Hilary Florido.

Florido also mentions after this point being promoted from storyboard artist to storyboard supervisor.

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#57692: Jan 21st 2019 at 4:44:33 AM

Anyone else think the way White Pearl floats and speaks resembles Ansem's possession of Riku in Kingdom Hearts?Like I'm half expecting White Pearl to suddenly change into White Diamond when Steven and Connie faces her

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#57693: Jan 21st 2019 at 5:50:50 AM

So someone actually made a Works page for one of my SU fanfics and I tried to edit it and add tropes but it feels weirdly narcissistic and all I could manage was to freshen up the description a bit.

Edited by SalFishFin on Jan 21st 2019 at 8:55:12 AM

sabrina_diamond iSanity! from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
#57694: Jan 21st 2019 at 5:59:53 AM

You know what would be fun to see in the show? A "Fantastic Voyage" Plot, of course!

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57695: Jan 21st 2019 at 6:42:20 AM

[up][up]They already made a joke about that in “Message Recieved”—Amethyst for some reason thought that would get Peridot to stop being evil.

Strontiumsun A Gamma Moth from Chicago Since: May, 2015
A Gamma Moth
#57696: Jan 21st 2019 at 7:50:24 AM

I hope I'm not the only one with high hopes for tonight's episode!

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#57697: Jan 21st 2019 at 8:30:07 AM

I'm really excited for it too!

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#57698: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:03:25 AM

I'm also very excited! I don't really have any expectations aside from a) Greg, Lion, and Bismuth (and maybe Lapis and Peridot) being Big Damn Heroes, and b) that this is going to be absolutely batshit.

Also, Here's Rebecca's promo for "Change Your Mind". Definitely not foreboding at all!

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ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#57699: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:34:48 AM

Well, tonight should have alot of plot and information as it is 4 episodes, which hopefully means nothing feels rushed.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57700: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:37:38 AM

I’m gonna miss the AMA because of work. Could someone do me a favor and ask if gems without noses have a sense of smell?


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