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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#57651: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:10:03 AM

They are often relevant memories. Steven got a lot of the Pink Diamond memories because the truth about Pink was weighing more and more heavily on him.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#57652: Jan 18th 2019 at 8:58:53 AM

They also tend to come up when he's in places that were significant to Pink/Rose

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57653: Jan 18th 2019 at 9:59:00 AM

I was forgetting the part where he has to be sleeping somewhere relevant to the memory. Not something likely to happen often, especially since his house is separate from the temple.

Maybe he’d see some Rose memories if he fell asleep in her armory, the Strawberry Battlefield, the palanquin wreck, her room, etc.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#57654: Jan 18th 2019 at 2:26:07 PM

Just binged the recent episodes so I'm caught up before the finale comes up next Thursday.

I found it really odd at first that White, Yellow, and Blue find fusing with a human offensive when at the same time they're not bothered at all by how Steven has a human body. After thinking about it though it's probably more about rankism than racism (speciesism?). Steven fusing with anyone would have set them off, but Connie not even having any place in gem heirarchy just made it way worse.

Edited by xanderiskander on Jan 18th 2019 at 5:29:31 AM

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#57655: Jan 18th 2019 at 2:55:17 PM

I don't think they quite realize that Steven is half human-half gem

Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57657: Jan 18th 2019 at 3:29:01 PM

[up][up]They may not even understand his body is organic at all, and think it's just a regular construct that looks especially human-like.

Even if they do, they almost definitely don't accept it as an irreversible change.

After thinking about it though it's probably more about rankism than racism (speciesism?). Steven fusing with anyone would have set them off, but Connie not even having any place in gem heirarchy just made it way worse.
It's not exactly about differing ranks, exactly. Two gems can have identical positions but still be forbidden from fusing because they don't look like the same (like those Jades). Even if they did know and accept that "Pink" had a human body, he and Connie look completely different from each other.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 18th 2019 at 5:40:14 AM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#57658: Jan 19th 2019 at 7:09:59 AM

BTW, I don't think anyone has really talked about it, but those Jades were adorable. Fused!Jade was so happy for, like, two seconds.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57659: Jan 19th 2019 at 7:30:29 AM

Back on the podcast, it's amazing that Zach Callison is in his twenties but his voice still keeps getting deeper.

He mentioned the way the Watermelon animals spread seems kind of invasive, like something the Crystal Gems might have to stop. That's probably forgetting that Mask Island's wildlife was already horribly mutated.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 19th 2019 at 12:15:01 PM

Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
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#57661: Jan 19th 2019 at 3:36:25 PM

Was thinking about how Steven and Connie get out of the tower,and it occurs to me one of the Diamonds might let them out,possibly because they intend to punish "Pink" further for fusion

Maybe even try to put Stevonnie on trial

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Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57663: Jan 19th 2019 at 3:41:12 PM

All three Diamonds seem to be of the mind that all of this is ultimately just a phase and that "Pink" will grow out of it and come to her senses or whatever.

A trial seems unlikely with that mindset.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 19th 2019 at 5:54:09 AM

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#57664: Jan 19th 2019 at 3:53:41 PM

Well maybe not a trial but I could them summoning "Pink" to explain themselves before their thrones

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Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#57665: Jan 19th 2019 at 5:03:28 PM

It's doing the whole LGBT experience so well. The kyriarchy, be it patri or matri, is your parents. Facing them is almost easy. So is abandoning them. But getting through to them? Now that is the ordeal.

Edited by Oruka on Jan 19th 2019 at 5:05:29 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57666: Jan 19th 2019 at 5:04:57 PM

You can tell by the promos that Blue Diamond confronts Steven and Connie in the room they're locked in now. Given the blue lighting and limited spaced (she's barely below the ceiling), she almost definitely came alone.


Another question unlikely to be answered this season: Is the Crystal Temple modeled on a fusion of all the Crystal Gems?

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#57667: Jan 19th 2019 at 10:02:59 PM

Is the Crystal Temple modeled on a fusion of all the Crystal Gems?

I thought that was obvious.

But now that's got me thinking; with the living architecture on Homeworld, is the temple alive/can it come to life?

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57668: Jan 20th 2019 at 6:33:27 AM

Yes, it probably is, but are we ever going to see said fusion?

The actual temple has a beating heart, so it's probably alive. Doesn't meant it can move or even think.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#57669: Jan 20th 2019 at 6:40:50 AM

A prediction I saw tossed around a lot was that all the crystal gems (or, well, Garnet, Amethyst, Pearl and Steven ) would fuse in the final battle, resulting in a form that resembles the Temple. Recent developments have made that a bit less likely I guess but still possible. Also, the fusion in Dewey's play may have been an inaccurate depiction of the Temple fusion (Rose version).

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57670: Jan 20th 2019 at 7:00:46 AM

Recent developments have made that a bit less likely I guess but still possible.
Besides Steven probably needing to fuse with Pearl and Garnet separately before he could manage that, I don't see what good it would do.

the fusion in Dewey's play may have been an inaccurate depiction of the Temple fusion (Rose version).
It almost definitely is, given Ronaldo compared the two in the Keep Beach City Weird book but dismissed the resemblance.
Here's a query: Does Blue Diamond even have legs?

Edited by thatother1dude on Jan 20th 2019 at 9:02:17 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#57671: Jan 20th 2019 at 7:03:18 AM

I hope so.

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#57672: Jan 20th 2019 at 7:13:44 AM

the fusion in Dewey's play may have been an inaccurate depiction of the Temple fusion (Rose version).

I still think that's Rose and Garnet's Fusion. It just makes the most sense to me.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Jan 20th 2019 at 10:14:23 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57673: Jan 20th 2019 at 10:12:43 AM

Besides Steven probably needing to fuse with Pearl and Garnet separately before he could manage that, I don't see what good it would do.

I could see them saying Yellow's lightning (and also the gem destabilizers that seem to be base off of it) wouldn't work on a fusion like that because of Steven's organic parts.

So that would be something.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#57674: Jan 20th 2019 at 10:25:37 AM

I think the temple could be an exxaggerated interpretation of Alexandrite. The statue has the same wild hair, and number of arms. Two faces for the two mouths and sets of eyes. Also Alexandrite back then wouldn't have had sunglasses because Garnet didn't either.

And the temple doesn't have Rose's gem. The house is positioned very low on the belly so it shouldn't be blocking it.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#57675: Jan 20th 2019 at 10:27:28 AM

That prompts a question, though, would Rose have fused with anyone besides Pearl? Depending on how much information/knowledge is shared between Fusions that could potentially spill the Pink Diamond issue. On the flip side, we've seen enough of Steven, Connie, Ruby, and Sapphire to know that they don't gain total knowledge of the other, so maybe I'm overthinking.


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