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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57626: Jan 17th 2019 at 4:27:31 AM

There's been no developments with White aside from being a no show at a Gem ball

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#57627: Jan 17th 2019 at 4:35:55 AM

There is at least some interesting-ish dialogue about her. I'm kind of wondering if she genuinely was a bit better (in the weird kinda-sympathetic-but-still-a-dictator way Blue and Yellow) before or if that's mostly rose-tinted glasses.

sabrina_diamond iSanity! from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
#57628: Jan 17th 2019 at 4:52:24 AM

Well, my favourite Diamond that I've seen so far is currently Yellow Diamond, mainly because Blue Diamond is a bit too weepy for me...

Can I ask a question about Steven? Is he his own individual self, or is Steven just a fragment of Pink Diamond or a vessel?

Edited by sabrina_diamond on Jan 18th 2019 at 1:58:37 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57629: Jan 17th 2019 at 7:34:15 AM

He’s his own person.

Metaphysically, he’s not a fragment of Pink Rose, he’s all of her plus an organic body.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#57630: Jan 17th 2019 at 7:39:30 AM

Though try telling that to... so many characters.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#57631: Jan 17th 2019 at 7:59:34 AM

Basically any Gem that knew Rose and/or Pink has a very hard time with understanding that her and Steven are two different people.

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sabrina_diamond iSanity! from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
#57632: Jan 17th 2019 at 8:24:04 AM

Thanks for explaining everyone, it's now a lot clearer

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57633: Jan 17th 2019 at 11:34:09 AM

I have to be honest: how do you not get that Steven is his own person, and the entire series hasn't just been a lie?

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#57634: Jan 17th 2019 at 12:24:15 PM

[up]Yeah, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around that too.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57636: Jan 17th 2019 at 3:00:56 PM

I choose believe Lapis and Peridot are off screen trying to rebuild their barn

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sabrina_diamond iSanity! from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
#57637: Jan 17th 2019 at 4:58:43 PM

Also, since the animesque design of Steven Universe takes a lot of cues from anime, does anyone have a total list of anime references that the show is inspirsed by?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#57638: Jan 17th 2019 at 5:11:52 PM

The Simpsons.

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#57640: Jan 18th 2019 at 3:15:21 AM

I don’t think it’s ever been made clear what exactly Steven is in relation to Rose/Pink, mainly because he appears to be a one of a kind case that none of the characters have encountered before - the only person who might understand is for all intents and purposes dead - but Steven still has access to some of her memories, so she may not be completely gone. We just don’t know.

To expand on that, I think it’s notable that we’ve been shown the events leading up to Steven’s birth and immediately after, but we haven’t actually seen it (yet). The most information we have been given, even after all this time, is that Rose decided she wanted to have a child with Greg, and that she knew somehow that this would necessitate her “death?” but had accepted that outcome. We don’t know how she had Steven, or how she realized she was capable of bearing a child. This is something that will probably come up in a later season I imagine

Edited by Xopher001 on Jan 18th 2019 at 1:22:58 PM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57641: Jan 18th 2019 at 4:08:25 AM

the only person who might understand is for all intents and purposes dead
And I doubt Rose knew much about what Steven would be.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#57642: Jan 18th 2019 at 4:57:52 AM

Somehow she knew she could have him , and understood that she wouldn’t exist after he was born. I think that suggests she had some idea

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#57643: Jan 18th 2019 at 5:07:30 AM

she probably consulted sapphire at some point who probably said as much

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#57644: Jan 18th 2019 at 5:18:57 AM

WAIT! This made me realize that this is THE first time Steven has had access to Rose's Memories...or isnt it?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#57645: Jan 18th 2019 at 5:23:17 AM

There were the diamond dreams leading up to the Pink Diamond very reveal. At the very least, I think the dream Stevonnie had was a mishmash of their memories with Pink's.

Edited by sgamer82 on Jan 18th 2019 at 6:23:39 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57646: Jan 18th 2019 at 5:27:34 AM

I don't think he literally has a copy of her memories,more likely his empathy abilities mean he can pick up the past events at specific locations,like the moon,her room..or even on the couch.

Or White is sending him the Diamond dreams in the hope it would bring her out of hiding

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#57647: Jan 18th 2019 at 5:33:10 AM

Or, easiest solution, he (or the gem, specifically) does have some of her memories.

GlitterCat Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57648: Jan 18th 2019 at 5:59:19 AM

I think some of Pink's memories are contained in her gem and as Steven grows he will have more access to them.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57649: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:34:31 AM

It is odd that he’s only had her memories as Pink, never Rose. Don’t know if that has a specific reason or is just coincidence.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57650: Jan 18th 2019 at 7:40:52 AM

[up]I put that down to them being the same person,plus the memories are pretty selective,it's not all of her memories just some of them

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