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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57401: Dec 31st 2018 at 6:14:57 PM

Is it possible that Pink's original Pearl was just shattered? That seems like a simpler explanation.
Then why would Steven's dream show a Pearl that looks just like White Pearl (same hair, gem placement, and outfit) without the scar and tinted pink?

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#57402: Dec 31st 2018 at 6:26:39 PM

Yeah saying it's the "simpler" explanation ignores what we just saw and all the subtle foreshadowing up until now.

Can't say I'm too surprised by what happened. I liked White Pearl coming into the ball - quite unsettling. The dream was great too.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#57403: Dec 31st 2018 at 6:38:48 PM

My thoughts, a solid episode, I found the earlier scene with the Crystal Gems and the pearls to be pretty sweet,damn, that last part was hard to watch!

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#57404: Dec 31st 2018 at 6:56:51 PM

@thatother1dude: Yeah, I was expecting they'd at least let us get our hopes up, and to some extent Blue Diamond is probably a lot more accommodating of Steven than she was with Pink. Still I definitely think the door is still open in the long run for Blue and Yellow to be redeemed; it won't be easy, but they directly confirmed that the chromatic Diamonds' are to White Diamond as ordinary gems are to the Diamonds.

Thus it's unthinkable for them to disobey White Diamond as it was for Peridot to disobey Yellow Diamond at first. The idea that maybe they don't have to exist solely to serve White makes a natural jumping off point for getting them to empathize more with their subjects.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Dec 31st 2018 at 9:57:33 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57405: Dec 31st 2018 at 7:28:44 PM

After last episode's revelation of the "extraction chamber" someone on another board compared gem formation to petroleum forming underground from decayed organic matter. Which makes the Injectors like reverse oil rigs.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#57406: Dec 31st 2018 at 7:39:17 PM

I'm guessing they are going to call Lars and his crew for help somehow.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#57407: Dec 31st 2018 at 7:58:06 PM

[up] I have no idea who they're going to call. Lars is a good guess, but I could see basically anyone, up to and including Yellow and/or Blue if White goes absolutely ballistic and starts trashing the entire planet like I think she might. We already know that Steven's going back to Earth after this, and I have a hard time believing he'd be able to get away with that for long without at least one of the other Diamonds covering for him.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Dec 31st 2018 at 11:03:36 AM

MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#57408: Dec 31st 2018 at 9:02:35 PM

Welp, I eat crow on the Pink/White Pearl theory. AGAIN.

EDIT:

Also, I'm sure some Amedot fans are going to get some mileage out of Limb-Enhanced Amethyst.

Edited by MrSeyker on Dec 31st 2018 at 9:40:24 AM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57409: Dec 31st 2018 at 11:00:28 PM

Sugar said on a recent podcast that Homeworld disallows even same-type fusion if the components are significantly different-looking.

Presumably that includes the Jades, because they and their fusion are very different looking—to the point I wonder if "Jade" is a category of gem, like Quartz and Garnet. (I mean this is putting asides it only being allowed to fight, whereas they don't seem like fighters.)

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#57410: Dec 31st 2018 at 11:55:12 PM

Also, it appears to be that these Jade's were from both Blue and Yellow's courts. They weren't from the same group of nobles, despite being the same type of gem (presumably) and the same rank.

Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#57411: Jan 1st 2019 at 3:30:55 AM

I'm growing more and more sympathetic to Pink, and her sheer impotence before her sisters and Mother. But does White have limitations?

"What is fun?" Baby don't hurt me...

Edited by Oruka on Jan 1st 2019 at 3:33:53 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57412: Jan 1st 2019 at 5:56:21 AM

I think i know what happened to White's/Pink's pearl,she fused with pink and was punished,hence why a new pearl was created for her

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#57413: Jan 1st 2019 at 7:03:46 AM

[up] I doubt it, Pink didn't know cross gem fusion was possible until she saw Garnet.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57414: Jan 1st 2019 at 7:25:58 AM

Well whatever happened it was heinous enough in their eyes that she was replaced

The real question is whether White is possessing her as a puppet or a host,if she's possessed I expect to see jokes of "The power of Christ Pink Diamond compels you!" if Steven attempts her heal her

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#57415: Jan 1st 2019 at 8:42:39 AM

Hmm, geez, who were the people again crying about how Diamonds got redeemed too easily and SU is now facism apologia? tongue

Seriously, redemption can't happen before it actually happens :P

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#57416: Jan 1st 2019 at 8:46:11 AM

@Oruka: Speaking of FMA, I’m fully on board the theory that White Diamond created the Chromatic Diamonds as part of a process of discarding her emotions to become “pure”.

[up] It still seems very likely Blue and Yellow will be redeemed eventually; part of the takeaway from this episode seems to be that the buck stops with White Diamond. There’s no pretense of her being being a first among equals; all of Gemkind including the other Diamonds exist solely to serve her and glorify her and spread her “perfection” across the universe. I think Steven will inspire all of Homeworld to stand up to White Diamond, including eventually even Blue and Yellow.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jan 1st 2019 at 11:54:32 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57417: Jan 1st 2019 at 9:08:13 AM

I could see Gems fusing together to stand up to the Diamonds,especially if it's a lot of Gems using together..

Call it 'The fusion revolution'

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57418: Jan 1st 2019 at 9:39:31 AM

Also, it appears to be that these Jade's were from both Blue and Yellow's courts. They weren't from the same group of nobles, despite being the same type of gem (presumably) and the same rank.
I'd assumed the green one was wearing a green diamond, and didn't know what to make of that. Looking closer, I think it's just a blue diamond that looks green because of the clothes around it.

Pink didn't know cross gem fusion was possible until she saw Garnet.
They may have been flirting, though. Even if there wasn't a romance, White may have brained Pink Pearl just for being a distraction.

@Oruka: Amusingly, what could be considered a really early version of White Diamond (the Crystal Gems' creator and eventual antagonist) actually was just called "the Mother".

@Captain Capsase: I could potentially see White's reaction as "Fusion ruins everything, I need to restart this empire (again?) without it", but wouldn't quite bet on something that extreme.

Speaking of which, you think White will try to killing Connie to repeat history, or more or less ignore her and focus on punishing Steven?

ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#57419: Jan 1st 2019 at 10:01:41 AM

I'm surprised how quickly the show creators confirmed the theory that White Pearl was actually Pink Pearl. Usually theories like that hang around for months. Of course, now that strengthens the idea that CG Pearl was White Pearl.

Its interesting how even being shattered, the pieces still maintain some amount of self. Here we have White's Pearl with an intacted gem but apparently no mind of her own. Perhaps White cleansed her of an identify and now she is an extension of White, just a voice coming from a statue, which is why her cracks don't heal.

Edited by ObligatorySarcasm on Jan 1st 2019 at 1:07:25 PM

-Witty line-
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57420: Jan 1st 2019 at 10:38:55 AM

Hmm, geez, who were the people again crying about how Diamonds got redeemed too easily and SU is now facism apologia? Seriously, redemption can't happen before it actually happens

And meanwhile now there are people surprised/angry about how the Diamonds are behaving because it makes it harder for them to sympathize with or something.

Because apparently a lot of people don't understand that humanizing a character isn't the same thing as whitewashing who they actually are.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#57421: Jan 1st 2019 at 11:43:54 AM

Seen some people blaming Connie now.

"If you didn't goad Steven into dancing, the ball would have gone off fine and everything would be ok."

Personally, I think SOMETHING was going to happen, Steven and the Diamonds are just too different and there's a literal millenia of Values Dissonance Steven can't possibly adapt to in such a short time. So it's unfair to blame Connie.

Edited by Luminosity on Jan 1st 2019 at 10:45:44 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#57422: Jan 1st 2019 at 12:00:56 PM

That something could have been anything,it could have been Ruby running over to sapphire or visa versa

It could have been the green and yellow Gem fusing and then they try to defend them

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#57423: Jan 1st 2019 at 12:06:23 PM

Yellow Diamond is this you?

Edited by Bocaj on Jan 1st 2019 at 3:08:15 PM

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#57424: Jan 1st 2019 at 12:14:05 PM

[up][up] I mean, stupid people have been throwing Connie under the bus since season 2, so it's really no surprise.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57425: Jan 1st 2019 at 12:46:23 PM

Steven and Connie should've considered they'd accidentally fuse while dancing. It happened before, twice.

But it's mostly a moot point. This extreme of a reaction was inevitable as soon as any of them did or asked for something that seriously challenged the status quo.

Yellow and Blue are still expecting him to get Pink's memories back somehow, suggesting they've been so cooperative because they think every can go back to how it was.


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