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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#57051: Oct 18th 2018 at 9:28:18 PM

I still really like White Diamond's and her Pearl's art designs. They really act as a contrast with the rest of the characters by bringing to mind older forms of media. White Diamond looks like something straight out of Metropolis, while White Pearl looks like an old black and white Max and Dave Fleischer cartoon.

Edited by M84 on Oct 19th 2018 at 12:28:50 AM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#57052: Oct 18th 2018 at 9:40:34 PM

Metropolis, that's it. Definitely. Part of it is the very firm lines of her design, part of it is her eyes, and I think her hair is kind of reminiscent of that sort of spotlights-in-the-air aesthetic too.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57053: Oct 18th 2018 at 9:47:47 PM

Yeah, when I first saw her I was struck by how much she looked like the aesthetic of Metropolis.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#57054: Oct 18th 2018 at 9:54:55 PM

I also thought of art deco stuff in general — fitting, since art deco was featured a lot in Metropolis.

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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#57055: Oct 19th 2018 at 6:23:08 AM

I never thought about the Fleischer cartoons for White Pearl - she reminded me a lot of Metropolis as well. That's probably because, again, her style is very heavily influenced by the 1920's fashion styles that were the rage during the height of Art Deco (about all that was missing was the cloche hat), and said styles were prominently featured in said movie.

Kinda has me up for a rewatch of Metropolis to prepare and see if any themes from that movie will end up being mirrored further in SU.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#57056: Oct 19th 2018 at 7:23:33 AM

I was reminded of old black and white cartoons I watched as a kid on CN back when a lot of their programming was dominated by old cartoons.

Edited by M84 on Oct 19th 2018 at 10:24:09 PM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57057: Oct 19th 2018 at 5:50:13 PM

Rebecca Sugar was recently on Talking Simpsons, along with Ian Jones-Quartey and Toby Jones (who were there a second time), discussing "The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show".

It's a very long (~3 hour) episode, with a lot of talk about how the episode's depiction of cartoon creation relates to and informed their own experiences. Sugar particularly finds herself constantly thinking back to "magic xylophone"/"genius at work" and "everyone should be asking 'where's poochie?'" As far as talking directly about Steven Universe:

  • While doing a recording, Erica Lutrell (Sapphire) gave Charlyne Yi (Ruby) some advice on how to breath to make a laugh sound better, which caused Sugar to think "Did Sapphire just teach Ruby how to laugh?"
  • They tried to have Steven's pilot design cameo in "Steven and the Stevens", but that turned out to be much harder than expected, and it ended being almost impossible to distinguish from the others.
  • Ian Jones-Quartey noted that cartoon version of him was used as an extra a lot more after he left. In particular, Lamar Abrams boarded one shot of a crowd with a giant arrow labelled "Ian".
  • The one scene the whole roomed disliked was Bart arguing with Comic Book Guy, which they found petty on the writers' part—telling your audience they owe you is not a mentality they endorse. Someone pointed out Lars and Steven's conversations in "Tiger Philanthropist" were similar, but Sugar and/or Jones replied that Steven just wanted to give Lars what he wanted, and Lars just didn't know. (Personally, I think that's glossing over how bitingly entitled Lars acted the first time they were talking.)
  • In his other appearance on the podcast, Jones-Quartey confirmed that Cookie Cat was based on Cookie Puss (in particular, the idea of an ice cream cake have backstory).

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#57058: Oct 23rd 2018 at 10:37:51 PM

Clickbait title aside, this is a well-versed and good rant video that kinda hits it on the head.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#57059: Oct 24th 2018 at 5:35:24 AM

I'll be honest and say you lost me at "rant video".

[down] Doesn't matter.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 24th 2018 at 6:40:09 AM

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#57060: Oct 24th 2018 at 5:39:16 AM

[up] About CN's treatment of SU, not SU itself.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#57061: Oct 24th 2018 at 5:39:19 AM

23 minutes? Nah.

It's been fun.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#57062: Oct 24th 2018 at 9:14:27 AM

Long-winded rant videos? No thanks. Rants are tolerable if five minutes or less. But twenty? Pass.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#57063: Oct 24th 2018 at 9:53:15 AM

Vox tries to be very rational and not overly negative throughout the video, though he does slip a bit in the last few minutes.

I really shouldn't have included "rant" in that description, especially considering what we went through a few pages back

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57064: Oct 24th 2018 at 3:41:01 PM

Watched the whole thing. It's a pretty even-handed video about how Cartoon Network isn't doing a good job of scheduling its shows. He starts off by talking about how much he dislikes rant videos since it's much more fun to talk about something you love than talk about something you hate, but there is also a catharsis and he basically needed to vent a bit.

He talks about Steven Universe's airing schedule in detail, and about how month-long hiatuses aren't too bad when there's Stevenbombs followed by weekly episdes in between. He has come to the conclusion that the Summer of Steven basically killed Steven Universe's airing schedule, since it used up 6-7 months worth of episodes on a weekly schedule that were sorely needed in the hiatus between Lar's Head and Dewey Wins. He also says that Cartoon Network's poor and lazy advertising didn't help the show, either.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#57065: Oct 24th 2018 at 4:03:40 PM

Hmm, I think I might check that video out. 23 minutes is a biiiit long but I'm also not a fan of how Cartoon Network treats Steven Universe.

And now for something completely different: an amusing Photoshopped video about the "Pearl used to belong to White Diamond theory.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57066: Oct 27th 2018 at 12:53:02 PM

Thinking about it, Homeworld leaving the jungle moon mostly undisturbed has some odd implications. Apparently there are planets that can support organic life but not gem production. Are there any planets that are the opposite? Is this any correlation at all, or is it just a coincidence that some do both?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#57067: Oct 27th 2018 at 6:22:52 PM

They can probably colonise any planet and expect to produce Gems,what they probably want is the maximum output from their Kindergartens,with the Jungle Moon they probably abandoned their efforts once it became clear the planet was'nt going to produce Gems in the numbers they needed

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#57068: Oct 27th 2018 at 7:56:44 PM

This is a thing that happened, truly it's better than life itself.

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FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#57069: Oct 27th 2018 at 8:58:15 PM

I was not ready for Plank!Rose.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#57070: Oct 28th 2018 at 7:42:06 AM

Watching that video was going on a wild trip

The good kind

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57071: Oct 28th 2018 at 9:52:45 PM

Sugar mentioned that having a gemstone in a place of an eye might impair a gem's vision but also give some sort of extra sensory ability that makes up for it. That makes me wonder: can the numerous gems without noses (Sapphires, Rutiles, Aquamarines) smell things? Peridot's calling a nose a "scent sponge" does imply most gems has a sense of smell (rather than it being something the Crystal Gems imitated from humans like eating or sleeping), and use their nose to do so.

I mean Topaz can hear even though Lars points out her gemstone should cover her ears, while the Rutile Twins don't seem to have ears at all.

Edited by thatother1dude on Oct 28th 2018 at 11:56:46 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#57072: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:05:31 AM

I've always wondered if the placement of the gem on the Hard Light body was a deliberate choice on the part of the Gem, or if it's something they can't control.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#57073: Oct 29th 2018 at 9:58:00 AM

I would have to be very hard at least, given neither Pearl nor Amethyst moved theirs while disguising themselves as another gem.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#57074: Oct 29th 2018 at 10:01:28 AM

We know it's not something uniform among gems of the same type — the Ruby Squad are proof of that. Maybe it's just something determined randomly at the moment they emerge and can't change. So if the gem's placement is somewhere inconvenient then it's just bad luck.

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#57075: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:37:27 PM

I imagine Pink would have moved her Gem location entirely if it was possible. The best she could do was change it's orientation.

Edited by RhymeBeat on Oct 29th 2018 at 6:37:36 AM

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