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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#56776: Aug 4th 2018 at 6:27:03 AM

Rebecca Sugar also hinted that fan theories about White being a stone cold ruler lacking emotions or empathy are spot on. I'm hoping that she tends more towards Totalitarian Utilitarian than just some self-absorbed, abusive mother.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#56777: Aug 4th 2018 at 10:33:01 AM

I peg White as lawful neutral. Someone entirely motivated by maintaining the status quo they've created, and not even being able to comprehend the idea that that can change. She could be a Totalitarian Utilitarian, but we haven't really gotten a hint of what goals she has aside from maybe fixing their lack of resources.

If anything I don't think she's motivated by selfishness or spite. I think she gets her ego from believing she's the only thing keeping the ship from capsizing. And to be fair with the hilarious incompetence we've seen from just about every homeworld gem excluding Topaz and Aquamarine she might have a point to make about that.

I think if Steven is going to get her to do anything he'll need to make her think it was her idea.

Edited by xanderiskander on Aug 4th 2018 at 1:55:07 PM

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#56778: Aug 4th 2018 at 10:58:18 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#56779: Aug 4th 2018 at 11:22:20 AM

Steven and Connie 4 smash

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#56780: Aug 5th 2018 at 7:26:55 AM

I just realized that when they rebuild Steven's house, they'll probably have rooms/beds for Peridot, Lapis, and Bismuth (though watch Peridot's just be another bathtub). Hell, maybe that's where the Off Colors will end up staying too.

FerrousMaelstom Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#56781: Aug 5th 2018 at 7:30:51 AM

The temple is now completely out of sight, being covered by a veritable hotel of random rooms. The barn will be rebuild, but on top of the temple's head.

Edited by FerrousMaelstom on Aug 5th 2018 at 3:31:14 PM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#56782: Aug 5th 2018 at 8:00:58 AM

I wonder what it would take to make more extra-dimensional rooms. Think we'll ever see how or why the Crystal Temple was made? In hindsight, it's odd that several early episodes focused on it, but I don't think we've found anything else about it since "Rose's Room".

The barn will be rebuild, but on top of the temple's head.
They'd probably be bumping into the lighthouse if they put it there.

Edited by thatother1dude on Aug 5th 2018 at 10:08:04 AM

Unlikelyauthor2 Just another weeb Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Just another weeb
#56783: Aug 5th 2018 at 1:13:16 PM

Wait, has Andy been told about Lapis taking the barn? Because I think we all can agree he's not gonna be happy about the family barn being dropped on his nephew's "Aunt".

Actually, right now I'm imagining Bismuth and Greg catching him and Lapis up with all the revalations about Rose being a Diamond.

Edited by Unlikelyauthor2 on Aug 5th 2018 at 3:16:02 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#56784: Aug 5th 2018 at 4:38:30 PM

Time passed between the episodes—everyone changed clothes, it's morning instead of evening, and everyone who evacuated to the shelter is seen about town. They may have mentioned it to Andy, and he may have left already.

Either way, I don't imagine him being much more than annoyed. He said they could have the barn, and Lapis broke it trying to protect the town.

Unlikelyauthor2 Just another weeb Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Just another weeb
#56785: Aug 5th 2018 at 6:52:28 PM

Still want to see Andy's reaction to finding out Greg was all but married to an alien princess.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#56786: Aug 5th 2018 at 7:01:00 PM

Do you think the topic of marriage ever came up? Did Greg ever say he'd like to marry Rose?

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#56787: Aug 5th 2018 at 8:20:45 PM

[up]Apparently not, because they bring up the topic in Gem Harvest. Andy gets upset when Greg admits they weren't technically married.

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#56788: Aug 6th 2018 at 8:19:35 AM

(Looking at that pick of the energy burst from Your Mother And Mine)

Well, if nothing else, that's a very handy explanation as to why poor Nephrite couldn't be permanently healed (not that we really needed one, but that is pretty important context).

As for new rooms for Lapis, Peri, and Bis at the temple... I guess it depends on just how difficult it is for the temple to make new rooms for gems. If nothing else, it wouldn't surprise me if Bismuth could tweak it to make new rooms (heck, she might have even been the one in the first place who made it) so that you don't need any external additions.

That said, if I were to gamble, I think they'll just build a new barn at the old location. I think Peri and Lappy liked farming and would want to go back to that. And I bet Bis will join them, partly to build it and partly because I think she'd like the idea of building tools for growing. (And also, because I think the show will like having them all in backup but still keep the focus on the original quartet of Crystal Gems.)

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#56789: Aug 6th 2018 at 9:21:11 AM

I guess it depends; I wouldn't think there would be much good farming land near Beach City, but Steven did bring up the idea of having the farm closer so they could come hang out more, and that would make it easier to fit them into different episodes now that they're bona fide Crystal Gems.

It's been fun.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#56790: Aug 6th 2018 at 9:54:02 AM

she might have even been the one in the first place who made it
They at least added Amethyst’s room after the war, so they presumably still have whatever power/technology they built it with.

I wouldn't think there would be much good farming land near Beach City
The barn was already within sight of the temple. There’s also a warp pad nearby, even if was only used once.

The commute to the farm is basically nothing. If those three don’t move in/around the temple, it’s just going to be because they wanted a separate house and/or the writers wanted some way where Steven logically wouldn’t be running into them all the time.

Thinking again about the Off Colors, they’re most likely to park the Sun Incinerator near Beach City and just live out of that.

Edited by thatother1dude on Aug 6th 2018 at 11:58:38 AM

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#56791: Aug 6th 2018 at 11:54:38 AM

I've always liked the idea of them living in Lars' house, though I guess the Sun Incinerator makes more sense.

...Though they could just put the Sun Incinerator near Lars' house and live there.


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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#56792: Aug 6th 2018 at 1:22:23 PM

Having been born and raised in southern New Jersey (which, if Delmarva is the fictional version of Delaware, is very close to the conditions in Beach City), I can confirm that it is not at all unusual to have very fertile farmland very close to coastal areas.

Of course, "close" may be a relative term, as those areas tend to be a bit flat (the real Delaware, worth noting, has the lowest "highest point" of any US state... yes, somehow lower than Florida and its average elevation of sea level), and thus it's likely much easier to see things further off than areas that actually have topographical features.

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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#56794: Aug 6th 2018 at 1:29:04 PM

Delmarva as a state is fictional, though.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#56795: Aug 6th 2018 at 3:47:03 PM

Beach City's real life equivalent is even more specific than the Delmarva peninsula, it's based on Rehoboth Beach, Dewey Beach, and Bethany Beach.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#56796: Aug 7th 2018 at 2:45:52 AM

Caught up. The wedding was so dang CUTE, argh! Bismuth coming back was great. The battle with the Diamonds was great. White Diamond is super terrifying and HUUUGE. Like, Steven at least comes up to Blue and Yellow Diamond's ankle or mid-shin. Steven is literally the size of White Diamond's toe.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 7th 2018 at 2:46:43 AM

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#56797: Aug 7th 2018 at 4:26:21 AM

About the Pink/White Pearlswap theory... I dunno. I feel like a lot of people are assuming it's canon based on exactly one piece of evidence: the gem placement. I'm not really a fan of theories based on such loose and potentially coincidental evidence. Now, the Crewniverse has certainly hidden much more obtuse and wacky foreshadowing within the show before, so I'm definitely not going to say for a fact that it's not true, it just doesn't feel like there's any real evidence for it.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#56798: Aug 7th 2018 at 11:26:45 AM

[up]My feelings are basically the same.

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#56799: Aug 7th 2018 at 12:49:06 PM

I dunno, I wouldn't go so far as to say that those of us who like the Pearlswap theory believe it's canon - I like the theory and think there's a good chance of it being true, but I do have the common sense to say that there may be other canon reasons.

Besides, I've always had the theory that Crystal Gem Pearl had more than one owner and had been passed along before finally becoming free. The circumstances behind said theory, though, have admittedly needed to be adjusted.

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#56800: Aug 7th 2018 at 1:51:07 PM

Pearl does mention she was "only" a few thousand years old when the rebellion began in "Sworn to the Sword." Unless White goes through Pearls quickly, or a mindwipe was involved, I think our Pearl was created for Pink. And I always figured that the Pearls are created around the same time as their Diamond, give or take a few thousand years. Though I have no evidence to back that up.

Potential spoilers from artbook:Also the artbook shows a timeline that apparently says that a new, sensible Pearl was created and delivered to Pink. Apparently, as it is hard to read.

Edited by SilentColossus on Aug 7th 2018 at 1:53:28 AM


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