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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#56026: Jul 7th 2018 at 6:33:34 AM

Keeping bad things from happening to the innocent is more important than punishing evil.

I don't really anticipating this topic going anywhere.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56027: Jul 7th 2018 at 6:36:47 AM

IF you can't even compromise to get an understanding, get ready for the loop.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#56028: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:20:51 AM

You know, i wonder if Steven would try to show the Diamonds Rose's video that she made for Steven before he was born.

Because AFAIK, except that one time in Blue's Court, she never came into contact with the Diamonds directly

Edited by fasoman1996 on Jul 7th 2018 at 11:22:41 AM

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#56029: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:25:46 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#56030: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:29:35 AM

> You know, i wonder if Steven would try to show the Diamonds Rose's video that she made for Steven before he was born.

I heard there is a video tape for the Diamonds it's in the chest inside Lion's mane

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#56031: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:32:40 AM

As has been mentioned, punishing the Diamonds for any crimes carries one big obstacle: How the hell do you do it, unless they're willing to consent to it in the first place?

Earlier it was asked "Multiple genocides, fusion experiments and dictatorship quckly got forgotten and forgiven because they can't beat them?", and the answer is "Pretty much, yeah."

Perhaps more importantly, it's not something Steven would want, no matter how justified. Not if they were willing to at least try to undo the damage and/or leave them to their own devices. The Crystal Gems' mandate is protect Earth and its inhabitants. If they can do that, then everything else is secondary.

That said, I could see Steven trying to bargain to make Earth a refugee for Off-Color Gems like the Lars crew.

Edited by sgamer82 on Jul 7th 2018 at 8:32:55 AM

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#56032: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:43:55 AM

@thatindiantroper: One of the realities of diplomacy is that you often have to let go of truly ancient grudges and forgive and forget things that really shouldn't be forgivable. It's also generally preferable to a violent solution where (to paraphrase Thucydides) the stronger side takes what they can and the weaker side suffers what they must, especially if you happen to be the weaker side. In fact, if the disparity is absolutely huge like it is in this scenario, diplomacy is pretty much your only feasible option for the underdog.

The Diamonds don't really have to compromise with the Crystal Gems; even the two of them stuck on Earth are more than a match for our heroes, and sooner or later their subjects will find them and they'll have the Earth and everyone living there at their mercy.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jul 7th 2018 at 10:48:23 AM

Ukokira Since: May, 2012
#56033: Jul 7th 2018 at 8:21:40 AM

Like as been said.

If Space Hitler potentially surrendered, but trying to kill him after did literally nothing and then resulted in everyone on the world getting nuked, you’d probably be a bit more hesitant to try to kill him at the moment.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#56034: Jul 7th 2018 at 8:33:19 AM

Like I said, there's just no outside force that can be brought to bear that can defeat them.

Any punishment carried out for their crimes is going to have to be one the Diamonds undergo willingly.

There's just nothing to be done about that.

Oh really when?
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#56035: Jul 7th 2018 at 8:57:42 AM

I don't know how I feel about where the Diamonds plot should go and what would be the best fit for the time the show has cultivated

Historically sometimes you have to leave the bad person on the throne to ease a transition. You reduce their ability to do further harm but you leave them in place

Creating a power vacuum without a clear plan seldom leads anywhere good

That's historically. Should the show beholden to this? I don't know I feel. I feel like I just said that

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#56036: Jul 7th 2018 at 9:28:52 AM

Meh, it's a cartoon, and I'm on board the Diamond redemption train. No breaks. Final destination.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#56037: Jul 7th 2018 at 9:32:30 AM

I have a feeling that after hanging with the Crystal Gems for a bit the Diamonds will grab Steven and run back to Homeworld so they can find a way to get Pink back.

Yellow obviously had her lightning, and Blue had her crying wave, but did she have any other powers? I don't remember water or ice powers which are typically associated with the colour blue.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#56038: Jul 7th 2018 at 9:32:46 AM

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I wonder if the diamonds won't try to shatter the corrupted gems. In their eyes they wouldn't be different from off-coloured gems

Edited by fasoman1996 on Jul 7th 2018 at 1:34:40 PM

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#56039: Jul 7th 2018 at 9:33:44 AM

@Bocaj: The best historical analogue would be the transition from absolute monarchies to constitutional monarchies beholden to parliamentary bodies in much of western Europe during the enlightenment era.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#56040: Jul 7th 2018 at 9:37:37 AM

At the moment I'm feeling like the best outcome the Crystal Gems could hope for is that Earth br recognised as a sovereign state outside of the Gem empire, and Earth gets to provide asylum to a few off colours. But that leaves the diamonds to continue on bring colonial assholes, just, elsewhere in the galaxy.

Other than that you could get the cluster to partially form and squish the two of them, bubble them, and then hold them random for White diamond to step down, and then dump the three diamonds on a planet without a galactic warp pad.

Actually, two out of three ain't bad. Trick the pair of them onto a planet with a warp pad you've booby trapped to immediately fail after they arrive. (Peridot probably knows how to do this too, and Lapis has seemingly explored galactic warp pads all the way to the edge of the Galaxy)

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#56041: Jul 7th 2018 at 9:48:00 AM

[up] Considering the Diamonds nuked Earth when Pink Diamond was believed to have been shattered by the rebels, I can't imagine that would go very well; White would call the CG's bluff and show up with a massive battlefleet to crush them once and for all. They can't credibly threaten to shatter the diamonds since they would have no remaining leverage at that point and no way to prevent the Gems from utterly obliterating Earth.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jul 7th 2018 at 12:48:21 PM

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#56042: Jul 7th 2018 at 9:50:41 AM

So are we sitting around with our thumbs up our asses for another month or two, or are they finally going back on schedule?

Because I'm getting really tired of "Here's a taste; now fuck off until we decide to give you more."

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#56043: Jul 7th 2018 at 9:54:13 AM

[up] We're back on Hiatus. May God have mercy on our immortal souls. tongue

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#56044: Jul 7th 2018 at 10:03:42 AM

Seems like we might get something for San Diego comic con at least.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#56045: Jul 7th 2018 at 10:05:09 AM

I do like hiatus cliffhangers like this because the fanart tends to run with it.

In ways later drastically debunked by the show but remember all those Peridot/Lapis as roommates arts before Lapis came back as Peridot's prisoner but also before they actually became roommates? Remember Peridot's adventures in Canada?

Being left hanging makes the creative people in the fandom so angry and so creative.

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#56046: Jul 7th 2018 at 10:11:12 AM

Oh great, another hiatus. Seriously, I liked it better when we didn't have computers writing our release schedule.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#56048: Jul 7th 2018 at 10:13:37 AM

I honestly don't get why people complain about it anymore, it's been the norm probably longer than a consistent release schedule was.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#56049: Jul 7th 2018 at 10:26:42 AM

The newest episode was pretty much this show's climax so I'm fine with a hiatus. All the cool stuff has probably already happened.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#56050: Jul 7th 2018 at 10:32:21 AM

had an idea for how the Diamonds will fuse,they'll search the wreckages of their ships when they discover their pearls have fused together,they be like "what the??!" and then Steven explains why two Gems from different courts fusing together is fine and this gets them to change their minds on fusion

have a listen and have a link to my discord server

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