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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#55976: Jul 6th 2018 at 8:43:18 PM

It does make me sad that Ruby and Sapphire don't really know most of their guests. It's only the gems, Greg and Connie they know.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#55977: Jul 6th 2018 at 8:43:47 PM

That wasn't a clip from when the arm ships started looming over the city?

[up] The gems have been getting to know Beach City more over the course of the series. Nearly all of that time, the two of them were Garnet, but that's not to say they don't know them themselves.

Edited by Enlong on Jul 6th 2018 at 11:44:36 AM

I have a message from another time...
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#55978: Jul 6th 2018 at 8:49:20 PM

That wasn't a clip from when the arm ships started looming over the city?
It's a different time of day and all the people are wearing regular clothes instead of their wedding attire.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jul 6th 2018 at 10:51:47 AM

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#55979: Jul 6th 2018 at 8:53:16 PM

I am just curious how this bomb got away with the proposal, marriage, and the kiss on the lips. Rebecca Sugar must really have friends in high places in the network.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#55980: Jul 6th 2018 at 9:00:36 PM

It's just a sign of changing times.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#55981: Jul 6th 2018 at 9:10:44 PM

Corporations are starting to realize that diversity and tolerance makes them more money than everything being white straight dudes.

srebak Since: Feb, 2011
#55982: Jul 6th 2018 at 9:19:20 PM

First of all, I just want to say that I love that they brought Lapis Lazuli back for this

And secondly, while I do feel that I can probably guess what kind of replies that I’m going to be getting for this post, still feel the need to actually have it said, as well replied to; does Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond really deserve the kind of guff that she’s been getting as of late?

I mean yes she did keep a very important secret about herself from her loved ones, that’s about all that she did that seemed “wrong”; she just let people think that Rose Quartz and Pink Diamond were two different people. But she genuinely did take a liking to the earth, she genuinely did see the worth and value of organic beings, and she genuinely did feel that the colonization process was detrimental to it all and had to be stopped. Yes she did seem a tad bit bratty in that one jungle moon flashback, but, do try to look at things from her point of view and try to understand them; she was a member of a group of elite class gems which she was supposed to equal to, and yet, they all had multiple colonies and followers of their very own, all while she none to her name whatsoever at all, and the only real reason for that that is known to us at this point is that they didn’t want to give her one until they saw fit to, how exactly is easy to see as fair? I mean, when it comes right down to it; she was just trying to play the role that her Gem type entailed, being a leader of a colony, how was that wrong given the circumstances at the time? Anyways, when she was finally given her own world to rule, she was prepared to do what had to done when it came to doing so, even if she did find a little dull. And, yes she was a little bit bubbly and over eager to see gems emerge at first but that was just the way that she was and she was originally only going to be posing as a Rose Quartz for just one day. Then, like I already said so before, she truly did start to see the true beauty and real worth of the Earth and all things that lived there, and then was very quick to realize that she was initially destroying it all by colonizing the planet, a fact that truly concerned her to say the absolute least. Isn’t that what the original view of Rose Quartz was at first; she was a gem who followed Homeworld’s ways up until she became enthralled by the Earth’s beauty? And do keep in mind that she was originally trying to handle keeping the earth safe as a Diamond and through nonviolent means at first. She tried to convince Yellow and Blue to allow her to let the earth be, but ended up getting her nowhere at all. Then, even when she decided to become Rose Quartz, she was originally just trying get Homeworld to leave through fear, nothing more, nothing less. And when she started to form the Crystal Gems, it was pretty much for the exact same reason that they all thought it was at first; she wanted to help outcast gems to become free of, as well as well safe from, the rigidly strict caste society that Homeworld was imposing upon, especially when she saw that they had dreams and thoughts that initially veered away from their original purposes. She wanted the gems who followed her to be free of Homeworld’s rules and laws, isn’t that what she was originally believed to have stood for? Also, from where I stand, she was pretty much just trying to get Homeworld to leave the earth alone by basically making it seem like it was more trouble than it was worth, the ensuing war could just as easily be blamed on Yellow and Blue’s stubbornness and need to be in control as it can be on Pink’s “shortsightedness”. She genuinely did seem the type of person who wanted see gems shattered when it was completely unnecessary, she truly did seem more like the type who didn’t want anyone to be hurt any more than they were already, hence why she didn’t want to use Bismuth’s breaking point, she didn’t want to escalate the death and destruction any more than it already was. Also, keep in mind that with the way that we were already shown just how both Yellow and Blue initially treated her, it was easy to believe that she came to believe that they didn’t really care about her all that much and to her credit, destroying the leader of the opposition is a pretty good tactic that can go a long way when it comes to ending a war. As for the result of such action, well, that could just as easily be blamed on Blue and Yellow for not letting Pink know how much they really cared for her until it was too late. So, when it comes right down to it, she is still the great person that everyone initially remembers; she fought for the Earth to live on, she fought for gems to be free of Homeworld’s rules and laws, she fought for freedom in general. So she was actually Pink Diamond in disguise, does that really change all of the good things that she accomplished?

And lastly, if Blue and Yellow’s threat to the earth is over, what’s left from Homeworld for the C Gs to fight against? I mean Yellow in control of the Homeworld Gems military? Who’s left to fight against?

Edited by srebak on Jul 6th 2018 at 9:19:26 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55983: Jul 6th 2018 at 9:22:03 PM

I only skimmed your post, but I think I agree with the general idea: whether Rose or Pink, she has the same flaws, and the same virtuous. Her motivations and reasons for doing what she did hasn't actually changed (they've gone out of their way to specifically say that), so while this recontextualizes a number of things, ultimately she's the same character she's always been, and I don't think any of what we've found out makes her mistakes "worse".

Edited by LSBK on Jul 6th 2018 at 11:23:59 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#55984: Jul 6th 2018 at 9:26:40 PM

Obviously White Diamond, the Biggest sister of the four.

Considering her lack of presence i assume she doesn't care much about her sisters. Hell, like i said earlier, she might be the Aloof Big Sister to both Blue and Yellow like they were to Pink. Does she genuinely cares about her sisters like Blue and Yellow did for Pink? Who knows but it doesn't look like it

Uni cat
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#55985: Jul 6th 2018 at 9:32:32 PM

Rose was kind of a bad person in a lot of regards but the inferences you could make even back when the reveal was first out (which were confirmed in the follow-up episode via Pearl) show that she was genuinely trying to do the best she could, even if she was immature and self-centered. So her decisions had some pretty bad emotional consequences but I can understand why she made them.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55986: Jul 6th 2018 at 10:27:02 PM

Understanding why the decisions were made is more important than the consequences that came from them...

Especially regarding the mentality of a character...

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#55987: Jul 6th 2018 at 10:35:32 PM

Pearl, of all people, said it best; she may have been shortsighted and even selfish but she wasn't a bad person and her love and admiration for the gems and Earth was very real. She simply made the best of a terrible situation.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55988: Jul 6th 2018 at 10:39:33 PM

The funny thing is that the fake story she told Garnet was essentially true: Pink, disguised as an ordinary Quartz because that was the only way could travel around normally, fell in love with all the things that were said in the story. And she pleaded with Diamond(s) to spare the Earth, she just lied about which one(s).

Edited by LSBK on Jul 6th 2018 at 12:43:32 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#55989: Jul 6th 2018 at 10:42:37 PM

Haha, that's true. She told a half truth, that's actually kinda funny.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#55990: Jul 6th 2018 at 10:55:21 PM

Also, just caught up with the episodes and they were both great. Looks like Lapis and Peridot are probably getting proper CG outfits now :p

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#55991: Jul 6th 2018 at 10:57:22 PM

And hopefully added to the Intro.

Also, it's rather morbid that everyone's reaction to Peri and Lapis getting poofed is just "NEW OUTFITS"

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jul 6th 2018 at 1:57:29 PM

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#55992: Jul 6th 2018 at 11:01:49 PM

Also, it's rather morbid that everyone's reaction to Peri and Lapis getting poofed is just "NEW OUTFITS"
Well, as dire as it can be when it happens, being poofed ceases to be anything but an inconvenience once the danger that causes it ceases.

Edited by thatother1dude on Jul 6th 2018 at 1:02:29 PM

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#55993: Jul 6th 2018 at 11:11:11 PM

"Reunited" had a new ending song, but you'll of course not hear it from the TV broadcast.

(For the sake of not giving away what that song is, I'll put the source back here.)

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#55994: Jul 6th 2018 at 11:16:21 PM

I gotta admit, they did a good job of making Yellow look terrifying

I was scared as shit when she showed up.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#55995: Jul 6th 2018 at 11:18:12 PM

My first thought was "wow YD is really on her Dragon Ball grind today".

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55996: Jul 6th 2018 at 11:20:57 PM

[up][up]This isn't anime?

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55997: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:41:47 AM

[up][up][up] They really nailed the Dragon Ball Z villain look.


Curse CN and their Credits Pushback! Ah well, at least it gives me more of a reason to rewatch the episode.

Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢
VeryVileVillian Since: Dec, 2017
#55998: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:48:21 AM

So the Diamonds will likely get redeemed judging by latest episode. I'm not sure i'm comfortable with this turn of events.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55999: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:53:32 AM

"We only tried to kill everyone. We didn't know they would end up worse than death."

Jokes.

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#56000: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:57:20 AM

I mean, it doesn't really seem like they CAN beat them


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