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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#55726: Jul 4th 2018 at 6:57:02 PM

[up]Right, which is why the Ho Yay page of Legend Of Korra basically evaporated after the finale.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55727: Jul 4th 2018 at 6:59:06 PM

I recently learned that codependency might just be a pseudoscientific thing that leaked into popular culture, rather than an actual issue anyway.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#55728: Jul 4th 2018 at 7:06:09 PM

It's gay noooon (Sorry, couldn't resist)

This was a wholesome episode. There is no way anything bad is happening, no sir

Uni cat
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55729: Jul 4th 2018 at 7:08:29 PM

Also, sign me up as someone who wouldn't mind Ruby and Sapphire being together but unfused for awhile.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#55730: Jul 4th 2018 at 7:10:43 PM

It must be scary being a fusion. Like, as far as Stevonnie knows, as soon as she unfuses she may never exist again. Actually, Sugilite might be a better example.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#55731: Jul 4th 2018 at 7:44:49 PM

I recently learned that codependency might just be a pseudoscientific thing that leaked into popular culture, rather than an actual issue anyway.
Can you PM me a link if you have one? Sounds interesting.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55732: Jul 4th 2018 at 7:56:23 PM

I would also like a link.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#55733: Jul 4th 2018 at 8:01:23 PM

I recently learned that codependency might just be a pseudoscientific thing that leaked into popular culture, rather than an actual issue anyway.
And even if it were a recognized psychological disorder, what would our diagnosis be worth?

People can certainly be emotionally dependent on each other, but that's a matter of "How much is too much?" or "It's probably not good, but is it that bad?". Speaking of it like some kind of disease doesn't help the discussion.

It must be scary being a fusion. Like, as far as Stevonnie knows, as soon as she unfuses she may never exist again. Actually, Sugilite might be a better example.
The way fusions are tied to their parts, it makes sense that most wouldn't prioritize their own existence over the wellbeing of their parts. In hindsight, even Sugilite's anger at "being split up" seems mostly a product of Amethyst's insecurities making her want to stay fused.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#55734: Jul 4th 2018 at 8:10:25 PM

Depends. Garnet has a lot of autonomy and her identity is very strongly skewed towards being her own person. She both cares deeply about where she comes from and considers herself her own person as well, with her own foibles and persona, and hasn't ever seen any discrepancy between the two. Mostly because she's always been secure in the fact that Ruby and Sapphire would basically never split apart. She doesn't really have to think about not existing for long periods of time, whereas with other fusions it's always clear that they're not dominant and their existences aren't permanent.

For example, Stevonnie, on the other hand, barely ever really acts like anything other than Steven and Connie together, and her persona doesn't really break from theirs. She's not independent in the way Garnet is.

The only fusion who's reached Garnet's level of autonomy is Sugilite. And in that case, it's said explicitly noted that that autonomy is the result of being fused a long period of time and Pearl indicates that it's (usually) a bad thing, which does in retrospect make Garnet being so well adjusted out to be the exception. It'd be interesting to see how Garnet would react to a life where Ruby and Sapphire are more invested in being split than before.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 4th 2018 at 8:38:12 AM

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#55735: Jul 4th 2018 at 8:26:28 PM

"I miss Sally May" NEEDS TO BE A RELATIONSHIP STATUS

Edited by AegisP on Jul 4th 2018 at 8:30:36 AM

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55736: Jul 4th 2018 at 9:02:21 PM

[up] So does "I AM AN ETERNAL FLAME, BABY!" and "Made of love".

There are several lines in this show that could make good relationship statuses, actually.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#55737: Jul 4th 2018 at 9:23:39 PM

I'd be up for "I am a conversation", myself.

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Gabo352 Since: Jun, 2016
#55738: Jul 4th 2018 at 9:55:41 PM

I my opinion, I don't thik co-dependency is a thing that develops on its own, in real life is a a result of two people with mental health problems seeking refuge in each other, it isn't it itself a bad thing, thanks to it people can function as any other normal person as long as they're together.

But that's the thing, it doesn't make te problems go away, they'll come back when the other person is not there, most people wouldn't think is healthy to become a wreck when you're appart from your significant other, in part because society today values independence, but also because if you have problems you need to solve them, not just leave them be.

I don't think Ruby and Saphire have mental problems; but they're characters, we already know Garnet and have an idea of who she is and who she can become is she stays fused but, even though she is technically them, they could have their own experiences outside of garnet and grow as persons (which would also make Garnet grow as a person too), but they don't because they can't bear staying separated; which to people is wasted potential, ergo a bad thing, a problem (what they fail to see is that the problem is with the series failing to meet their expectations and not an actual problem Ruby or Sapphire have).

In the end is their choice if they want to stay fused, that doesn't mean they are codependent; but once people start thinking that, is difficult for them to stop doing it unless they actually see them spending time apart and being able to do things on their own, is not logical, but that's just how people are.

Edited by Gabo352 on Jul 4th 2018 at 1:02:05 PM

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#55739: Jul 4th 2018 at 11:50:28 PM

Ruby's an agile little bugger, innit she?

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#55740: Jul 5th 2018 at 5:06:42 AM

So I had a thought about the wedding: will we finally see Ruby and Sapphire kiss on the lips?

Also, two separate things I'll bring up about Pink Diamond:

  • If Pink didn't even make the Zoo, who bubbled the real rose quartzes? Was it just some random pink gem (who possibly did it after the war), or did Pink herself do it to placate the other diamonds?
  • If Steven did try to prove to Blue and Yellow that he had Pink's gem, for whatever reason, how could he do so? Recounts his dreams? Shapeshift to reposition his gem?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55741: Jul 5th 2018 at 5:17:43 AM

He'd need to get better at his shapeshifting...if he wants to do that.

They can't just pull a Dragon Ball with the idea that just because he's aware that rotating a gem is possible...it's actually easy to do.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55742: Jul 5th 2018 at 6:04:22 AM

*Cough cough* Diamond Super Mode *Cough cough*

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ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#55743: Jul 5th 2018 at 6:08:52 AM

I would have thought that the gem scanning robots from Off Colors also register what type of gem it is, so the diamonds could find out that its actually a pink diamond and not a rose quartz. However, they would need a reason to think Steven was back on Earth instead of Homeworld in order for them to invade based on the promos.

Perhaps they follow Lars as he comes back (probably because Steven invites him to the wedding, which inadvertently causes his friends to be in danger as gems attack....again).

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#55744: Jul 5th 2018 at 7:29:11 AM

Another explanation would be that the WMG that Pearl is actually an unwitting spy for White Diamond is actually true. And White Diamond only recently found out the truth because while she can see through Pearl's eyes, she doesn't do it all the time — it has to be consciously activated, like flipping to the right channel at the right time.

My own expansion on this WMG is that White Diamond has the same connection to every Pearl in existence. Meaning the Pearls she gave as "gifts" to other Gems, including her fellow Diamonds, are actually her means of keeping tabs on them.

White Diamond: Okay, let's see what Yellow is doing...busy as usual. She really needs to learn how to relax. Blue? She's crying. Again. <sigh>...Now that I think about it I haven't checked on poor Pink's Pearl for eons.

<sees through Pearl's eyes during the events of the last few episodes>

White Diamond: ...what.

Edited by M84 on Jul 5th 2018 at 10:34:04 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#55745: Jul 5th 2018 at 7:47:24 AM

The channel is usually blurry as if water had gotten on the lens so she rarely checks it

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#55746: Jul 5th 2018 at 7:58:23 AM

I think all that hair in Blue Pearl's eyes would make it impossible for White to see anything.

ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#55747: Jul 5th 2018 at 8:04:31 AM

I feel that the show will discuss White as they did with Pink, as in, only after a reveal acknowledging their existence then they won't stop name dropping her. Pink was never mentioned or discussed despite how much she impacted many of the main characters until Jasper said it (which was really for the reveal for the audience), then afterwards she is referred to in common conversation. Once the big wham line concerning White is said, soon everyone will be saying her name as if they always did that.

I understand from a writing standpoint that its for a dramatic reveal for the audience but looking back it comes off weird how characters avoid it despite it being common knowledge in story. Like, the characters can't say anything until the audience knows it. They don't discuss 'A,' the audience gets the big reveal, then the same character can't stop discussing 'A' despite the fact that nothing in-story changed that would impact what topics they would focus on. Basically, the audience broke the NDA the characters were under.

As an aside, is that a trope?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55748: Jul 5th 2018 at 8:05:57 AM

Seeing through hair is scary gary.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#55749: Jul 5th 2018 at 9:10:43 AM

You will notice that in "We're Only Falling Apart" the Rose and Pearl arrived at the Kindergarten via warp pad. This implies that there is in fact a warp pad on the moon and that is how Lapis 1. Got from Earth to Homeworld after stealing the ocean and 2. how she got to "the edge of the Milky Way" before second guessing herself and taking the barn back to the moon. This makes way more sense than her flying in space with water wings where it would take a thousand years to get to the nearest star system.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#55750: Jul 5th 2018 at 9:20:51 AM

Pearl said there was no way to the Moon. Pearl, you always lyin'

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