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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#55476: Jun 25th 2018 at 9:18:11 PM

Lapis fighting off the Diamonds by herself or something would be lame anyway.
Lapis showing back up could make the difference between victory and defeat, but I'm sure that isn't gonna happen. They can probably negate the advantage that any amount of water gives Lapis, either with blue's emotion control or some other ability we haven't see yet.

edited 25th Jun '18 9:20:25 PM by thatother1dude

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#55477: Jun 25th 2018 at 9:23:28 PM

Even an untrained Diamond's power is able to easily counter her constructs. Remember that Steven's shield was able to send out a shockwave that disrupted her water clones.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#55478: Jun 25th 2018 at 9:39:51 PM

And Yellow's lightning could well have similar properties—or have some combination of range, precision, and power to get through/around whatever defenses Lapis could put around herself.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#55479: Jun 25th 2018 at 9:47:25 PM

Lapis is not much of a warrior herself. She is powerful, sure, but she was poofed with one punch and doesn't seem to have the mindset of a warrior.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#55480: Jun 25th 2018 at 10:24:20 PM

Yellow Diamond might be able to turn Lapis's hydrokinesis against her with her lightning powers and instantly poof her.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#55481: Jun 25th 2018 at 10:25:28 PM

Especially if, as has been theorized, Yellow Diamond's lightning is similar to the taser wands.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55482: Jun 25th 2018 at 10:27:54 PM

To clarify, I don't think that Lapis would or could just easily fight of Blue and Yellow (or their forces) by herself, but the way the question was framed implied to me, that's was what was being suggested.

But in the unlikely hypothetical event something like that did happen, yeah, it would be lame.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#55483: Jun 25th 2018 at 10:33:36 PM

Lapis Lazuli is kind of like Scarlet Witch. She's an extremely powerful Squishy Wizard and Glass Cannon. Her job is to terraform landscape, yet there's no doubt in my mind that Pearl could easily dominate her in single combat. She might be able to destroy a Diamond Hand ship, but a solid punch from any of the Diamond's footsoldiers could poof her in one shot.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55484: Jun 25th 2018 at 10:34:29 PM

Also, people seem to forget other Lapises exist.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55485: Jun 25th 2018 at 10:55:20 PM

I think Season 6 is gonna be about White Diamond, healing Corruption, and finding Lapis. Just a guess, though.

Also, and this isn't directed at anything in particular, but let Steven Fuse with another human, dang it.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#55486: Jun 25th 2018 at 11:05:33 PM

Who would he fuse with in that case? I don't think we want to see a fusion of Steven with Onion. Or...ugh...Ronaldo.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55487: Jun 25th 2018 at 11:07:39 PM

Sadie, any of the Cool Kids, Peedee, Lars...

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#55488: Jun 25th 2018 at 11:08:26 PM

I don't see why he should fuse with another human. Besides, the only one you could kind of justify at this point would be Lars.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#55489: Jun 25th 2018 at 11:10:51 PM

While he's on good terms with all of them except Kevin and Ronaldo, I don't think he's close enough to any of them to actually fuse.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55490: Jun 25th 2018 at 11:17:44 PM

Eh, I don't know. The fact they introduced that Steven can Fuse with humans, but only use it for Stevonnie, just feels like a major waste to me.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55491: Jun 25th 2018 at 11:22:57 PM

He could fuse with Greg, but any other human (besides Lars, maybe) would kind of feel...unearned, I guess.

edited 25th Jun '18 11:23:13 PM by LSBK

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#55492: Jun 25th 2018 at 11:27:11 PM

I want a Multiverse fusion so bad.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55493: Jun 25th 2018 at 11:57:17 PM

I can't believe I forgot Greg! Bring on the Multiverse!

And TBH, Sadie's earned (for lack of a better word) a chance to Fuse with Steven. They've been through a lot together and helped each other develop. Sadie even watched Rose's tape with him, for Pete's sake!

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#55494: Jun 26th 2018 at 12:22:22 AM

This just sounds half-baked. Steven hasn't even fused with Pearl or Garnet yet. He needed near to a full season's worth of development to fuse with Amethyst. Fusing with anyone outside his closest friends or family would just feel unearned. Even Greg would feel unearned.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55495: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:28:29 AM

Besides, what would it do for him? Though I get that fusions are supposed to be a "greater than the sum of its parts" thing, Greg and Sadie are just Puny Humans. Connie at least has her training in swordsmanship to complement Steven's wide array of Diamond-level Gem powers.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#55496: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:34:02 AM

Remember when Fusion used to be used for non-combat plots and purposes? Let's go back to that. A Multiverse episode can just be about Steven and Greg bonding and fusing.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55497: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:53:48 AM

Steven hasn't even fused with Pearl or Garnet yet.

By that logic, he shouldn't have Fused with Connie in "Alone Together" because he hadn't Fused with any of the Gems yet.

Sadie's just a Puny Human.

Two words: "Island Adventure". She'd need training, sure, but she does have skill.

edited 26th Jun '18 2:19:25 AM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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#55498: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:20:16 AM

No. Connie and Steven's relationship makes sense for fusion. They love each other and trust each other implicitly. There are logical barriers for the others that need actual character development to overcome. Greg, for instance, supports Steven, but talks and acts in a way that makes him feel less human.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#55499: Jun 26th 2018 at 3:30:43 AM

Ohh, okay. Why didn't you just say so?


Moving on from Steven Fusing with humans for a bit, I noticed Alexandrite looks different compared to her appearance in "I Am My Mom" - specifically, her top gloves are purple instead of green, her middle gloves are reddish-brown instead of purple, the white part of her top is notched different, and her star patches are light purple instead of green (they also look like five point stars instead of four point stars, though that could just be the way her legs are positioned).

I'm assuming either A) Ruby and/or Sapphire reform at some point, or B) Ruby and Sapphire Fuse with Pearl and Amethyst instead of Garnet, creating an Alexandrite with some slight differences compared to the Garnet/Amethyst/Pearl Alexandrite.

edited 26th Jun '18 3:35:21 AM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55500: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:41:24 PM

I don't really need Steven to fuse with any other humans (I don't even need him to fuse with any of the Crystal Gems) but arguing no combat experience is a poor reason. The first time Steven and Connie fused was before she started her training with Pearl, if I'm remembering correctly.

Also, when has Greg made Steven "feel less human" and where is it implied that this is a reoccurring problem? Because that sure sounds out of nowhere to me. If there's a problem, it's always been people, including Steven, trying to keep Greg out of that part of Steven's life.

Edited by LSBK on Jun 26th 2018 at 1:42:20 AM


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