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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#54751: May 16th 2018 at 8:09:57 AM

If you liked the show up to that point, I don't see why anything would change. Personally, I'm glad to have a sense of closure on the hanging mysteries surrounding Rose Quartz's past.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#54752: May 16th 2018 at 8:26:53 AM

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I thought it wouldn't work either, but the reveal at least blew me away. Now I'm confident it was the best move.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#54753: May 16th 2018 at 8:29:33 AM

The consensus seems to be that, whatever you might have thought of the theory, the show managed a great delivery on it.

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#54754: May 16th 2018 at 8:46:08 AM

And I just now learned that my binge to catch up consists of a whopping 14 episodes. Yep, back to Steven Universe, all right.

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#54755: May 16th 2018 at 8:48:25 AM

The show was on hiatus for half a year, what do you expect?

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#54756: May 16th 2018 at 8:50:52 AM

So i haven't been keeping up with Steven Universe since "Steven Floats" so boy i had a lot of catchin up to do.

Hey, so Rose wasn't as perfect as we were told. I always had that sneaking suspicion since the very start

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#54757: May 16th 2018 at 10:04:15 AM

[up] I actually really love what the show has done with Rose at this point, having had some time to soak in the twist. I really love to see a mentor/paragon archetype who becomes a Broken Pedestal that doesn't turn out to be Evil All Along but also hasn't fully mended their ways to become the more typical infallible mentor/paragon archetype in the present.

Those of you who watch RWBY may recall my disappointment with how there's been little to no payoff on what was seemingly buildup towards a Broken Pedestal for that show's Big Good (among many other issues with the show), and when it came to Harry Potter I never really liked the fact that Dumbledore's long hinted at dark and troubled past turned out to be (almost) completely irrelevant to the series' present day conflict.

In contrast, Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond started out as a deeply selfish and unempathetic person whose early actions caused a great deal of harm and played a pivotal role in the present day conflict of the series. While she Became the Mask to some extent, her actions continued to have unintended and harmful consequences up to and beyond her actual death.

edited 16th May '18 10:14:02 AM by CaptainCapsase

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#54758: May 16th 2018 at 3:40:07 PM

Yeah they did an excellent job with her. Always well intentioned. So. deeply. flawed.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#54759: May 16th 2018 at 3:40:50 PM

[up][up][up]We passed the point of "Rose is perfect" a long time ago. It shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone.

edited 16th May '18 3:41:11 PM by LSBK

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#54760: May 16th 2018 at 3:47:56 PM

It really helps that they planned the reveal from the very beginning,it was'nt just a "hey the fans think RQ = PD,let's make it canon!" they planned it and left foreshadowing everywhere for future reveal

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#54761: May 16th 2018 at 3:49:22 PM

I especially like the foreshadowing with the Cookie Cat

edited 16th May '18 3:49:33 PM by fasoman1996

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#54762: May 16th 2018 at 3:58:17 PM

I always took Cookie Cat to refer to the Crystal Gems in general, not just Rose in particular.

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#54763: May 16th 2018 at 4:13:32 PM

The line "He left his family behind" though only really makes sense in terms of Rose. Pearl was custom made, so likely has no Gems of the same Kindergarten. Ruby was a part of a community but saw herself as interchangeable and fled Homeworld after being sentenced to death. Sapphire is likely so rare as to not have any Gems in the same batch. And Amethyst's family unintentional left HER behind.

Rose on the other hand clearly did leave family behind as a part of her poorly thought out plan.

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#54764: May 16th 2018 at 4:19:14 PM

The line fits with Greg too, as he left his family behind to start his music career.

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#54765: May 16th 2018 at 4:20:16 PM

I have to wonder if Pearls even come from Kindergartens. It seems clear they're designed individually.

edited 16th May '18 4:20:30 PM by SilentColossus

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#54766: May 16th 2018 at 4:31:20 PM

Then we shall call Steven by his real name: Steven Diamond Demayo

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#54767: May 16th 2018 at 4:53:28 PM

[up] Tfw you realize ‘’That Will Be All’’ was an episode about hiding from your in-laws.

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#54770: May 16th 2018 at 5:37:37 PM

I remember just a couple of days before the reveal I participated in a poll where the most voted option was still Rose is Pink.

Second most voted was shattered by Pearl.

I voted poofed and hidden by Pearl and thought people were nuts for still clinging to that theory.

Man I ate crow.

As we learned about Pink, I came to believe she conspired with the Crystal Gems. Once the official story's holes came out, the only outcome I accepted was she was hidden somewhere (never once thought The Diamonds had anything to do with the event; Blue is hurting too much; Yellow's response to her grief was obviously being used to set her as an obvious suspect; White could've been involved, but I always thought she was way too detached from everything to even factor her).

For my part, I always thought Pink and Rose being the same was too convoluted to seriously consider.

In the end, it answered so much I could only love the reveal.

The funny thing is that with the reveal of Pink's gem shape, I came across theory posts that showed a shirt worn by some people working on the show that spoiled the true shape of Steven's gem, but my mind kinda erased this reveal (helped by the apparent inconsistency in the two gems' facets).

My own mind played me like a fiddle. The clues were always registering, and I kept dismissing them.

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#54771: May 16th 2018 at 5:41:50 PM

Wonder if Steven can be poofed. I don't recall any instance of that (besides his physical age changing from time to time depending on how he felt)

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#54772: May 16th 2018 at 5:43:00 PM

Steven can't be poofed because his body isn't made out of light; he's real flesh and blood.

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#54773: May 16th 2018 at 5:52:16 PM

Yep. It's why the Destabilizer can only give him a shock. And even if he could be poofed despite that, it would probably take a lot of force to do it. Kid's pretty tough even by Gem standards thanks to being part Diamond.

edited 16th May '18 5:52:50 PM by M84

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54774: May 16th 2018 at 5:55:00 PM

[up][up][up][up] Technically all three are correct in some fashion. Rose is Pink Diamond who made it look like Pearl shattered her when in fact Pearl poofed her and hid her (identity).

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#54775: May 16th 2018 at 5:56:30 PM

Well that's one way to avoid showing his gem.

There is a theory running around that Yellow Diamond had a strange reaction when he showed his gem to her and Blue. Like if she was picking up that "Rose Quartz" could be her deceased sister or something.

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