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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#54701: May 14th 2018 at 5:35:17 PM

Thinking about it,the only person who could possible know Rose's secret would be someone especially close to her,closer then Pearl,which would logically be one the Diamonds,though there's no chance in hell that she could have told one of them, they might have started off with suspicions Rose was somehow in league with Pink Diamond,but it never crossed their mind they were the same Gem,especially if the rebels use strategies they recognise as ones they previously taught them

and then the trial happens and you recognise the cut of their Gem

Tldr:if any of the Diamonds had worked out Pink's secret identity by now it would be Yellow

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32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#54702: May 14th 2018 at 6:59:03 PM

I hope we get a scene of Greg helping Steven deal with the revelation in the next couple of episodes.

I think it'd be really nice.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#54703: May 14th 2018 at 7:20:29 PM

So does anyone else get the impression that the Diamonds are a Four-Temperament Ensemble now that we've been introduced to three of the four? Which by process of elimination would make White Phlegmatic.

edited 14th May '18 7:21:00 PM by CaptainCapsase

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#54704: May 14th 2018 at 7:21:48 PM

I dont know but you should definitely hold your horses before adding that to the page.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#54705: May 14th 2018 at 7:23:23 PM

[up] I'm obvious not going to yet, not without WD, but Yellow Diamond is textbook Choleric and Pink Diamond is textbook Sanguine, so I think it's quite plausible.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54706: May 14th 2018 at 7:31:50 PM

I wonder how Greg will react to finding out Rose was Pink Diamond.

...Guy really does get along well with giant women. He even managed to charm Blue Diamond a little. Now I'm wondering if he ever met Opal. There's a pretty amusing little comic out there showing a young Greg being briefly smitten with Opal until he notices the Pearl and the Amethyst on her while Rose tells him Opal is their Fusion. He then drowns himself in booze trying to process how Pearl + Amethyst = Opal.

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#54707: May 14th 2018 at 7:39:04 PM

I wonder if this is part of why the show held off on Fusions for Steven and the Gems other than Amethyst. With Rose as a Broken Pedestal now, it might be the impetus for Garnet and Pearl to view Steven ever more as his own person or otherwise remove whatever might block them from the fusion

edited 14th May '18 7:39:12 PM by sgamer82

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#54708: May 14th 2018 at 7:45:36 PM

So Word of Johnston has suggested that Pearl kept Pink/Rose's secret willingly for a long time. When do you think she realized that Steven needed to know?

I don't know for sure... but I have my suspicions.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#54709: May 14th 2018 at 7:47:54 PM

@32_Footsteps: That's an interesting read of Pink Diamond. Seems plausible.

@Ultimatum: Idk, someone could be cherry-picking screenshots. Alternatively, I think both Yellow and Blue's reaction to Steven's gem look the same, except Yellow looks like she's about to burst out while Blue is more collected.

@32ndfreeze: I'm also interested in seeing his reaction. I hope we spend some time on a scene of him and Steven talking.

Hmm, who do you think is going to be told first: Greg or Connie?

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#54710: May 14th 2018 at 7:57:43 PM

Speaking of Opal, she desperately needs more screen-time. Like, we know what Sugilite and Sardonyx are like, but how much do you know about Opal's personality. All I can guess is that she thinks she's awesome and likes to show off, but in doing so she often forgets about important stuff, like the reason she fused in the first place.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54711: May 14th 2018 at 8:02:06 PM

[up][up][up]I think she wanted to tell him at that point. But I think the moment she realized he might need to know was in "Back to the Moon" when Steven heard about Rose shattering Pink Diamond for the first time. And the moment when she realized he definitely needed to know the truth was in "I am my Mom" when he surrendered himself to Homeworld to answer for what Rose did.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54712: May 14th 2018 at 8:57:14 PM

And Greg never even knew maybe that his giant woman was a gianter woman

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TomoeMichieru Samurai Troper from Newnan, GA (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Mu
Samurai Troper
#54713: May 14th 2018 at 8:59:29 PM

So, deviating from Rose:

What are the chances we're going to see Emerald again?

I'm also curious as to what a Jade Gem might look like.

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Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#54714: May 15th 2018 at 8:32:18 AM

And to think, you were all so adamant that I was crazy and baseless when I said Garnet was full of shit when it came to her knowledge about Rose.

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Gabo352 Since: Jun, 2016
#54715: May 15th 2018 at 8:44:53 AM

so, I didn't read this fic,I just skipped to the end https://archiveofourown.org/works/14668113

Do you think what Pink did to Pearl would look worse if it turns out she told Greg?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#54716: May 15th 2018 at 8:45:57 AM

Could you offer a summary?

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Gabo352 Since: Jun, 2016
#54717: May 15th 2018 at 8:53:31 AM

It's a really short fic, one shot, I just read the end, Greg tells Steven he knew, but didn't tell anything because he thought Pearl would, he didn't knew that Pink ordered Pearl not to; Pearl hears their conversation and gets mad, seems Pink can trust Greg without forcing him not to talk while in the end she was treated as nothing but a Pearl.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#54718: May 15th 2018 at 9:00:13 AM

I'm in the "Rose had no empathy" boat myself, because I agree that she saw everything like pets and/or lesser beings before Greg stood up to that viewpoint. And I really wish Pearl was White's and not Pink's. It would really have helped with avoiding the whole Happiness in Slavery trope. I don't think that was the Crewinverse's intention but it's definitely what it comes off as to me.

I think it's also likely that "Escapism" song that has yet to be released is probably a Pink Diamond song given this new context.

Oissu!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#54719: May 15th 2018 at 9:16:28 AM

I don't agree with her lacking empathy,she had plenty of ,but it was mostly towards her own kind,since humans are a different species entirely it shouldn't be too surprising that she found them an amusing curiosity,but she still wanted to preserve them which is evidence enough that she cared,otherwise why bother?

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#54720: May 15th 2018 at 9:17:47 AM

You'd probably want to save your beloved pet if your house was on fire too. Just because you care about something doesn't necessarily mean you treat it as an equal being.

Oissu!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#54721: May 15th 2018 at 10:30:10 AM

And to think, you were all so adamant that I was crazy and baseless when I said Garnet was full of shit when it came to her knowledge about Rose.

Because that wasn't a thing.

Lancelot07 Since: Apr, 2015
#54722: May 15th 2018 at 11:59:19 AM

I we're gonna hear Pink Diamond sing, I'll probably be hearing Megara from Hercules right away. Still funny it's the same voice.

FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#54724: May 15th 2018 at 12:05:55 PM

Given Sapphire has run away they might find her by her singing,therefore she could be the one who sings 'Escapism though it probably will be a Pink Diamond song

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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#54725: May 15th 2018 at 12:17:09 PM

So does anyone else want to hear a rerecording of the rant from Jungle Moon with Susan Egan doing the appropriate lines?


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