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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#54526: May 11th 2018 at 7:08:53 AM

Pink seems to be very in control of her size and shape. It could be that she just is the size she wanted to be at any given point in time. I mean, its possible she decided to just reform as Rose as her natural state, but she had to maintain a transformation whenever she was Rose before her "assassination".

Lancelot07 Since: Apr, 2015
#54527: May 11th 2018 at 7:55:20 AM

I'm shocked at something so simple that all this time, Steven had Pink's hair shape.

Someone also pointed out that lion and Lars turning pink were a clue all along too - if it was just from Rose, simply their mane/hair should be pink, no reason for their entire bodies to be.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54528: May 11th 2018 at 8:39:43 AM

Damn

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Cross (Don’t ask)
#54529: May 11th 2018 at 8:43:40 AM

What was the point of Pearl throwing up?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#54530: May 11th 2018 at 8:46:29 AM

She felt so bad she threw up,it happens in real life

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#54531: May 11th 2018 at 8:51:44 AM

Dang, I thought they were laughing...

Then the images got big...

She was just so dramatic...

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#54532: May 11th 2018 at 9:00:42 AM

Jasper (and the rest of the Jaspers in general) did have it rough, come to think of it. She was specifically built and indoctrinated to fight a war that was never real in the first place, the fallout of which completely fucked her up mentally.

She reminds me of the Clones from Star Wars. I guess that would make her the Cody to Amethyst’s Rex?

edited 11th May '18 9:01:13 AM by KnownUnknown

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#54533: May 11th 2018 at 9:05:52 AM

[up]What's worse is that Kindergarten might have been defective on purpose to give the Crystal Gems an easier time.

Again, I have very little sympathy for Pink.

Oissu!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#54534: May 11th 2018 at 9:08:41 AM

Wouldn't that be a good thing...also the point?

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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#54535: May 11th 2018 at 9:10:17 AM

Eh, I'm not seeing the Cookie Cat song (ugh... which I didn't like at all) being foreshadowing at all. As others have noted, even if the face value story of Rose Quartz had been true, it was just as applicable (look at all the bubbled Rose Quartzes at the zoo... she really did leave her whole family behind).

As for Lion Lickers actually being the same as Cookie Cats.... heh. Sounds pretty realistic, too (hardly the first time something was repackaged to boost sales).

@54504 Pink Diamond still having potential to grow? Huh... it would be different from all the rules for gems otherwise seen, but then Diamonds did have their own rules in general. Though based on how Rose described it in the flashback where Greg was taking care of Sour Cream when he was an infant, Rose herself believed that Pink Diamond couldn't grow and change at all.

@54510 Wait... do we have indications that the colonization of Earth was going "well" (by gem standards, at any rate) before PD started having second thoughts? Honestly, I don't think they've got enough information to say one way or the other. The closest we have is Peridot's comments in "It Could've Been Great," and even that was more about the blueprints for the original plans for Earth.

For that matter, all suggestions are that things went pear-shaped (again, by gem standards) pretty quickly. The original plan was to have 89 Kindergartens active. One started up before the rebellion took hold (Beta Kindergarten was explicitly hastily thrown together for soldier production after the rebellion started). So even if things were going well at first, they did not go well for long.

Side note, going back to "It Could've Been Great" is also highly instructive post-"A Single Pale Rose." Seeing as she was Pink Diamond's Pearl, there's almost no way Pearl didn't know about all of the plans for Earth. There's a good chance that Pearl was horrified at what she once was complicit in putting together. Not to mention, hey, looking back at it, Pearl's horror is expressed by covering her mouth with her hands (compare to Amethyst going slack-jawed and Garnet just getting increasingly angry). Seems like the order to not speak of it was triggering even then.

Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#54536: May 11th 2018 at 9:11:36 AM

[up][up]Sure, if you're a Crystal Gem. Not so much if you're a poor gem that's almost guaranteed to be defective.

Oissu!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#54537: May 11th 2018 at 9:16:16 AM

I was referring to PD's unsympatheticness.

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#54538: May 11th 2018 at 9:18:07 AM

Is there any proof it was intentional?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54540: May 11th 2018 at 10:05:12 AM

Initially it seems the colony was actually running fairly well. You gotta remember that when she started out she was hellbent on proving herself to her fellow Diamonds. I still have the theory that Pink Diamond started the "Rose Quartz" thing for the initial purpose of investigating how things were going on the ground level ala Undercover Boss.

It's only later, after gaining an appreciation for life on Earth, that she realized what a well-run colony would do to it. Basically she had the same reaction as Peridot did only on an even greater scale.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#54541: May 11th 2018 at 10:10:12 AM

The Beta Kindergarten was created until after the rebellion started. It may well have been a case of self-sabotage on Pink's part.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54542: May 11th 2018 at 10:11:46 AM

I kind of get the feeling that by the time things got to that point, with Blue and Yellow involved, that Pink had lost a lot of the actual control she had over the colony.

edited 11th May '18 10:14:03 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#54543: May 11th 2018 at 10:12:51 AM

The gems were still Pink's gems, not Blue's or Yellow's. I don't get the vibe that Pink lost control at any point, Blue was pretty serious about not doing things for her or pulling her off the project. I think the other gems were just there to provide more troops and supervise things.

edited 11th May '18 10:13:18 AM by PhiSat

Oissu!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54544: May 11th 2018 at 10:14:11 AM

If there was sabotage, it was probably in the form of Pink Diamond using the intel she had access to as the nominal leader to make "Rose" look like a tactical genius.

The Beta Kindergarten being less reliable was probably not deliberate on Pink's part, but yet another case of her good intentions having horrible consequences.

edited 11th May '18 10:17:07 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#54545: May 11th 2018 at 10:19:22 AM

I still have so much sympathy for Pink.

So she pouted for a colony just to mess it all up, causing headaches for everybody involved.

At least Steven has three-to-four aunts, cool powers, and a (tainted) legacy.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#54546: May 11th 2018 at 10:21:47 AM

Don't forget his father.

More and more I'm thinking Greg is the turning point for everything in the series as much as Steven is

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54547: May 11th 2018 at 10:23:35 AM

As has been pointed out in the Trope pages, Greg was apparently the first person ever to love Rose entirely of his own free will and wanting to be with her as an equal.

And sadly (as far as we know) Pink Diamond didn't have the courage to reveal her full past to even him.

There's something profoundly sad about a being with that much power having that much self-loathing.

edited 11th May '18 10:26:11 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#54548: May 11th 2018 at 10:26:19 AM

So the human zo...

Wait, how long before Greg was anyone else?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54549: May 11th 2018 at 10:28:14 AM

It's probably best not to think about what Pink Diamond did with the Zoomans. Besides, I'm pretty sure the show-writers aren't going to go there.

Disgusted, but not surprised
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#54550: May 11th 2018 at 10:29:44 AM

That's why it was cut off...

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