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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54376: May 9th 2018 at 9:12:50 PM

So now that we know the truth, it makes a bit more sense why Steven is able to partially heal a Corrupted Gem after figuring out more of his power and why Rose's shield could block the Corruption Wave. The Corruption Wave was the result of the combined power of three Diamonds. It stands to reason that another Diamond can at least partially counter it.

That might be the next direction the series takes: finding a way to convince the other Diamonds to help undo the Corruption.

edited 9th May '18 9:15:09 PM by M84

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#54377: May 9th 2018 at 9:16:40 PM

[up][up][up][up]Why would anyone be annoyed by number 3?

Also, is it a little weird that Garnet's flashback story was immediately just made unnecessary 5 episodes later?

Or is that good timing?

edited 9th May '18 9:16:59 PM by randomness4

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#54378: May 9th 2018 at 9:18:43 PM

Show's not over yet

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#54379: May 9th 2018 at 9:20:00 PM

I dunno. I think it helps set the stage for just how big the deception really got. Pink Diamond was this horrible tyrant, Rose Quartz a hero of free thought, and that episode emphasizes that before we learn they're one and the same.

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#54380: May 9th 2018 at 9:20:30 PM

Yeah, the point of that was to show the story as the other Crystal Gems knew it before showing the real story.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54381: May 9th 2018 at 9:20:45 PM

Garnet telling Rose's story highlights again just how much she believed in Rose and bought into her message. That's what makes the revelation of the truth that much harder on her.

The sad thing is that, despite the lie, Pink Diamond's sympathies were almost certainly genuine. I could easily see her identifying with other Off-Color Gems due to her being so much smaller than the other Diamonds and feeling underappreciated and out of place. Her later taking in Amethyst and calling her perfect was due to both sympathy for being smaller and appreciation for Amethyst being able to come into existence free of any of the baggage of Homeworld culture. Her sympathy for Ruby and Sapphire's relationship might have been based on her own closeness with Pearl since there was also a vast gulf between their castes.

Even the Zooman thing was done in good intentions. At that point in time she was basically draining Earth of its ability to sustain life. Prior to reaching the decision to spare Earth entirely, she may have simply contented herself with saving a few humans by placing them in an off-world nature preserve.

Pink Diamond was a good person (eventually) who had good intentions and didn't want to hurt anyone...and still managed to leave behind a huge mess and hurt a lot of people. Still, at the end of the day, her change of heart was a good thing. If she hadn't done any of that, Earth would be a lifeless husk and Ruby would have been shattered.

I guess I find Pink Diamond / Rose Quartz sympathetic partly because I can kind of relate to feeling worthless compared to the rest of the family.

edited 9th May '18 9:31:55 PM by M84

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azul120 Since: Jan, 2001
#54382: May 9th 2018 at 9:43:11 PM

Not sure if someone else said it (been 18 pages since I was last here), but it makes sense that Pearl would feel so clingy towards Rose. She knew her biggest secret.

edited 9th May '18 9:43:46 PM by azul120

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#54383: May 9th 2018 at 9:51:19 PM

My stance on Pink/Rose is "ultimately had the best of intentions, but made several impulsive decisions that blew up horribly for everyone involved, which she failed to own up to afterwards".

As for the Diamonds, I suspect that if Steven can prove his identity to them, he can achieve a détente of "can you at least not actively try to kill my friends, please?", but there will still be a lot of friction there (on Steven's side, the other Diamonds are responsible for all the terrible things that happened just as much as Pink was, and on the other side, eventually Yellow's gonna find out what he did to her Cluster). I wonder what would happen if either of them start getting any funny ideas about "bringing Pink home"...

"You are so grounded when we get back to Homeworld, young man."

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54384: May 9th 2018 at 9:58:33 PM

Or worse, they get the idea that they can bring Pink Diamond back by ripping out the Gem.

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
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#54385: May 9th 2018 at 10:01:58 PM

Kind of odd Sapphire's the one to lose her shit.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#54386: May 9th 2018 at 10:10:23 PM

I keep thinking of what Here Comes A Thought implied about Ruby and Sapphire

Ruby could be driven to frustrated tears by hyperfocusing on a single fear or anxiety while Sapphire was more likely to be overwhelmed by a swarm of them.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54387: May 9th 2018 at 10:15:20 PM

That's partly because last time Sapphire was able to remain calm because her future vision let her know things would probably turn out okay. "Pool Hopping" brought up the point that her ability to see the future isn't as reliable now due to Steven maturing faster than she could handle.

edited 9th May '18 10:17:06 PM by M84

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#54388: May 9th 2018 at 10:16:32 PM

It might be a thing that Sapphire is more easily perturbed by things in the past.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54389: May 9th 2018 at 10:18:30 PM

It would be amusing if Ruby is the cool-headed one who points out that, regardless of the lies, Rose Quartz / Pink Diamond did still save them from being shattered.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#54390: May 9th 2018 at 10:40:20 PM

So, it's good timing then...

Swell.

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Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#54391: May 9th 2018 at 10:45:33 PM

So this is... an interesting observation.

Look at all the businesses or positions of power we've been introduced to in Beach City. What do they all have in common? They're all matriarchal or patriarchal family-run dynasties. Mayor Dewey's father was also the mayor, and groomed his son to be the mayor after him. In the present day, Dewey tried to do the same thing with his son Buck. Then there's the Pizzas and the Frymans. It's the same story, parent figures preparing the next generation to take over and do what they did.

And what happens in each of these families? The younger generation resists. They strike out on their own and do what they want instead. It happens with Sadie. It happens with Jenny and Kiki. It happens with Buck, and with Ronaldo and Peedee.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54392: May 9th 2018 at 10:50:27 PM

[up] It goes so far as to compare Peedee to Pink Diamond (Peedee = P.D.). It's a stretch, but it does kind of make sense.

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
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#54393: May 9th 2018 at 10:55:15 PM

Does anyone but me wish there was an episode that consisted of nothing but Ronaldo being punched in the face?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#54394: May 9th 2018 at 10:56:08 PM

Uh...no?

But...yes, there probably are.

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#54395: May 9th 2018 at 11:09:18 PM

Don't punch the Fryboy in the face!

...Okay maybe once, but not for eleven minutes.

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#54396: May 9th 2018 at 11:12:21 PM

I despise him. The only purpose he serves is making me glad when he isn't in an episode.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#54397: May 9th 2018 at 11:13:44 PM

You love him?

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#54398: May 9th 2018 at 11:19:13 PM

I cant wait for three of the remaining episodes to be Ronaldo episodes.

I actually imagine that, if Blue Diamond discovered the truth, she will be furious. We've seen that she defaults to cold, uncaring authority when not overcome by grief. Her sadness is making her appear softer than what she is, and I'll bet that discovering it was all a lie will bring her little relief.

edited 9th May '18 11:19:30 PM by Zeromaeus

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#54399: May 9th 2018 at 11:24:00 PM

Now I'm imagining Blue giving Steven a spanking for fibbing. tongue

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#54400: May 9th 2018 at 11:25:36 PM

I can imagine Blue and Yellow (and maybe White) being more dangerous because of this. They will be driven to attack Earth to "rescue" their sister from Steven by tearing the Gem out of his belly. What makes it worse is that they might be right that doing so would free Pink Diamond.

Extra twist: They release the captive Rose Quartzes and send them to retrieve their Diamond.

edited 9th May '18 11:26:51 PM by M84

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