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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#54227: May 8th 2018 at 3:45:38 PM

@Silent: My suspicion is that white was more involved in things that we're lead to believe, but tends to work behind the scenes rather than overtly. I think Pearl was a gift from her to Pink Diamond, hence the gem position, and I also suspect White already knows what happened to Pink, and may have known since the start of the rebellion, if my theory about Pearl being an unwitting mole for her is correct.

edited 8th May '18 3:46:20 PM by CaptainCapsase

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#54228: May 8th 2018 at 3:47:16 PM

so this is a horrifying theory with an odd amount of merit (based on spoilers of the most recent episodes)

edited 8th May '18 3:47:29 PM by MrAHR

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#54229: May 8th 2018 at 3:50:17 PM

Interesting, but do we ever actually see Garnet be unable to ask questions ?

edited 8th May '18 3:50:35 PM by Xopher001

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#54230: May 8th 2018 at 3:51:50 PM

The revelation itself was handled well, but I'll reserve judgment on whether it was ultimately good for the story or not until some things are further explained (assuming they are) and we see the fallout.

Agreed. I feel a lot of people who are mad are jumping conclusions. Assuming certain things when we don't really have a clear timeline of all the events. I would wait at last the next episode or two (as they seem to be going to address things) before passing any big judgments.

[up]Yeah. As far I know this whole thing is based on a remark Sugar made about Garnet characterization. But I don't think she was being literal.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#54231: May 8th 2018 at 3:52:27 PM

We only have that one interaction from Know Your Fusion, which could mean anything tbh.

Pearl: Those two are acting very suspicious. Should we ask them what’s going on?

Garnet: I can’t.

Pearl: Right…

edited 8th May '18 3:53:16 PM by MrAHR

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Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#54232: May 8th 2018 at 3:56:40 PM

To be fair, that is a weird interation.

edited 8th May '18 3:56:52 PM by Heatth

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#54233: May 8th 2018 at 4:04:04 PM

Yeah. I don't think it's a guaranteed theory but like... it makes a good point. Because that trait for Garnet is a bit odd to have so strictly. Someone who chooses not to ask questions would just say "I don't ask questions."

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#54234: May 8th 2018 at 4:09:14 PM

I feel like Rose literally telling Garnet to never question anything, and forcing her to do so would raise flags very quickly.

Plus, it wasn't just "no questions". She was specifically telling Garnet not to question her existence, and that, well, has very real applications to life. I don't see that as the kind of thing the writers would intentionally apply something so...unsavory.

edited 8th May '18 4:10:04 PM by LSBK

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#54235: May 8th 2018 at 4:12:31 PM

Just got caught up with the lastest episodes.

Yo THE TWEEEEEEEEEST though

Talk about a gamechanger.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#54236: May 8th 2018 at 4:12:47 PM

[up][up]I would assume it was accidentally, if at all (thought I personally don't buy). Very creepy regardless.

edited 8th May '18 4:12:56 PM by Heatth

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#54237: May 8th 2018 at 4:37:31 PM

[up] I could buy her doing it unintentionally.

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#54238: May 8th 2018 at 4:58:39 PM

[up] If anything, the geas she placed on Pearl may have been unintentional as well. It seemed so polite, so cordial; did she know how deeply ingrained her final request would be? Did either of them know?

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#54239: May 8th 2018 at 5:01:21 PM

About the spoiler thing. Is anyone who hasn't seen the episodes popping in here every other minute, knowing that basically everything is a spoiler? I'm seriously asking. If you haven't seen the episode but keep following every post, instead of just waiting till you've seen the episode and then catch up, I'd like to know.

How many episodes do we have left this season?

edited 8th May '18 5:01:48 PM by WillKeaton

Isaac_Heller Since: May, 2015
#54240: May 8th 2018 at 5:04:27 PM

WD has to be a fusion at this point. Its seriously straining my suspension of disbelief that she's an actual entity and yet she can't be bothered with anything. She's clearly not aloof enough to not have participated in the war

No, you couldn't be more wrong - it's perfectly believable. Her mural shows that she has conquered and thus manages the most planets, in addition to Homeworld itself. Why would someone that powerful and busy be bothered with what's going on with just one planet, which mostly centers around Pink Diamond whom she seems to have had no close attachment to? She only intervened at the end of the war because, even if she didn't have any feelings for Pink, the shattering of a Diamond is an insult to the Diamond Authority that cannot be allowed to stand. After doing that, she went right back to doing her own thing as the Greater-Scope Villain of this story's universe. Nothing that has transpired thusfar has been significant enough for an all-powerful ruler of many worlds like her to step in, it's all Yellow and Blue's problem due to their emotions toward Pink.

However, learning that a member of the Diamond Authority did all that Pink did and is now incarnated as Steven....THAT could very well warrant her attention, so I definitely expect to see her by the season finale.

How many episodes do we have left this season?

8 more episodes.

edited 8th May '18 5:11:27 PM by Isaac_Heller

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#54241: May 8th 2018 at 5:11:17 PM

I just hope we get to see White soon. Now we that more or less got an answer as to what Pink's deal was, they're the last big mystery I want to see resolved.

Isaac_Heller Since: May, 2015
#54242: May 8th 2018 at 5:13:54 PM

[up] I'm pretty sure we will. In addition to the build-up to it with the structure on Homeworld and then the partial sighting of her in Garnet's flashback, look at the official Season 5 poster, and note the shape above Yellow and Blue. It's the shape of White Diamond's head. I am almost certain she's going to show up in the finale.

edited 8th May '18 5:14:46 PM by Isaac_Heller

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#54243: May 8th 2018 at 5:17:28 PM

Did either of them know?

At the time? Maybe not. Pearl certainly learned about it since, though.

About the spoiler thing. Is anyone who hasn't seen the episodes popping in here every other minute, knowing that basically everything is a spoiler? I'm seriously asking. If you haven't seen the episode but keep following every post, instead of just waiting till you've seen the episode and then catch up, I'd like to know.

Yeah. The usual policy is to just tag for a page or so, right? Right now it seems weird.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#54244: May 8th 2018 at 5:25:30 PM

It is odd that we haven't seen any White Diamond. I'm hoping they give a good enough reason for her absence, particularly at the trial.

I remember someone on this thread vehemently argued that the reason Pearl never shape-shifted anymore, was because of a traumatic shape-shifting experience in the past, namely the shattering of Pink Diamond. And now we see that he was basically right.

edited 8th May '18 5:28:22 PM by WillKeaton

Nvoid82 Since: Apr, 2013
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#54246: May 8th 2018 at 5:38:22 PM

regarding Jasper and how she might react to Rose's true idenity, I wonder if that self-esteem PSA is subtle (but bizzare) foreshadowing of potential character arcs?

edited 8th May '18 5:39:16 PM by MorningStar1337

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#54247: May 8th 2018 at 5:56:37 PM

With what we've seen of Pink Diamonds abilities alone shows just how much more powerful the Diamonds are, even if they have limits.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#54248: May 8th 2018 at 6:04:05 PM

Also, we now know that idea for the Cluster was for 100% sure AFTER Pink's death, because if it was from before that point then Rose would have known about it.

Also, it now occurs to me that we have never actually seen a Rose Quartz gem. Outside of the bubble room I mean. All gems of the same type share a voice actor, and when gems shape-shift they keep their voices, but would a real Rose Quartz be voiced by Susan Egan, even though that voice was already used for Pink?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#54249: May 8th 2018 at 6:07:55 PM

> Susan Egan, even though that voice was already used for Pink?

Possibly,follows a theme after all.

Also,someone on reddit pointed out that if Pink is good at making convincing shards then there's a possibly that the Rose Gems in the zoo are fakes,and the real ones are concealed in

wait for it

The chest inside Lion's mane!

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#54250: May 8th 2018 at 6:27:27 PM

I think the jungle moon episode coming first helps us piece together Pink's train of thought

There's only a colony on Earth because she whined for one, Blue and Yellow are only involved because Pink seemed incapable of dealing with a revolution on her own, clearly her momsisters don't care about her because of the tone they take with her and the stuff they say, therefore if Pink was taken out of the picture, they'd have no reason to stick around and would gladly wash their hands of the while debacle being as Earth was only intended to appease a whining child

It was the perfect crime

With one slight hitch

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